http://kotaku.com/5503312/nintendos-new-ds-will-still-force-you-to-re+buy-your-digital-games
I don't know what to call it, DSiWare? :P
Anyway, this is pretty bad move for Nintendo. Every other company let's you redownload purchased content. Nintendo must be trying to get money or something. You have to register an account on the system, there is no reason for a "Download Again" option not to be there. I'm definitely not going to get a DSi XL now. Not like there was much reason to get one in the first place.
Thoughts?
Once again Nintendo shows how little they know, or care, about online.
Not that I even have a DSi to begin with, but seriously that's just stupid design right there. Some simple things called GAMERTAGS would pretty much fix this problem, but whatever Nintendo, keep alienating customers who have even the slightest idea how to use tech. I'm sure the kids and old people won't mind paying more money for the same thing.
At least there is predownloaded applications built into the system, so that's a small pus.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 27, 2010, 10:40:51 AM
At least there is predownloaded applications built into the system, so that's a small pus.
A very small plus. I suppose it's something, but it doesn't justify this. If the 3DS were to have it, it'd be announced by now, but there's still small hope. I'll make the point more clear than nayr to tell how good this would be;
I still believe Nintendo should get on the ballgame and put in user names; Not everyone has to have one. Most "casuals" can still stick with FC's while the fans more into gaming can go out and sign up for an account.
What do you gain by doing that? Let's look:
-An easier system for those who hate having to add FC's while still being parent friendly
-The ability to not be scared if one of your systems break unless you saved it on a gig card.
-The ability to have shops linked; Think about it this way, we could be playing SMRPG.
SMRPG on a intercourse ing DSi. That's however not all; This could bring in others like Super Mario World or LoZ:AlttP. This also leaves the way for potential future titles much like Final Fantasy VI and Earthbound If they were to solve licensing issues between the latter. Just imagine how much more pointful the virtual console would be if this was the case.
-Well...Uh...Hardware/software moves.
-Buy one point card? Use it on the Wii
and the DSi in two separate uses!
-Etc.
Did I miss anything? There's no disadvantage into having it. Quite honestly at this point I believe this is the number one thing we should be suggesting from Nintendo since none of the 3 are going to create many new IP's any time soon anyways.
And come to think of it, the PSP is playing PS1 games. Having just SNES/NES/Genesis/Etc from VC outside of N64 would be a godsend to a lot of us - Don't deny it. You say there thinking about all the great titles from those you could be playing on a portable without piracy and easily too. :D
That being said that shows my thoughts on this.
Again, Nintendo is just lazy and doesn't care. They need their systems to stop printing their own money for them to actually give a poop about online.
I love the recent interview on Miyamoto, basically saying how he (and Nintendo) don't give a poop about online. Well, he said it in much prettier words, but let's be honest, that's what he means. X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on March 27, 2010, 10:49:44 AM
Again, Nintendo is just lazy and doesn't care. They need their systems to stop printing their own money for them to actually give a poop about online.
I love the recent interview on Miyamoto, basically saying how he (and Nintendo) don't give a poop about online. Well, he said it in much prettier words, but let's be honest, that's what he means. X_X;;
Actually, I can easily say you're thinking that and he didn't even say it that way.
You have a really foul mouth.Oh well, I'm not bothered with this that much, to be honest. I didn't buy that many software from the shop, and besides, I have it in a DSi, so it's not that much of a problem, really.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 27, 2010, 10:57:48 AM
Actually, I can easily say you're thinking that and he didn't even say it that way. You have a really foul mouth.
Oh well, I'm not bothered with this that much, to be honest. I didn't buy that many software from the shop, and besides, I have it in a DSi, so it's not that much of a problem, really.
http://kotaku.com/5502441/mario-creators-priority-is-entertainment-not-online (http://kotaku.com/5502441/mario-creators-priority-is-entertainment-not-online)
Link to the article. There are so many flaws with what he's saying it's ridiculous, and it basically amounts to "we don't care about online...still."
And you're still missing the point that this problem could easily be fixed with some basic solutions that have become industry standard, and that Nintendo is just too lazy to do anything about it.
Quote from: Nayrman on March 27, 2010, 11:03:17 AM
http://kotaku.com/5502441/mario-creators-priority-is-entertainment-not-online (http://kotaku.com/5502441/mario-creators-priority-is-entertainment-not-online)
Link to the article. There are so many flaws with what he's saying it's ridiculous, and it basically amounts to "we don't care about online...still."
And you're still missing the point that this problem could easily be fixed with some basic solutions that have become industry standard, and that Nintendo is just too lazy to do anything about it.
That's like the 700th time I've seen you saying that word.I still don't see why that's all important. In all honesty, it's okay as it is.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 27, 2010, 11:05:55 AM
I still don't see why that's all important. In all honesty, it's okay as it is.
Quote from: Third K on March 27, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
-The ability to not be scared if one of your systems break unless you saved it on a gig card.
-Well...Uh...Hardware/software moves. (From DSi to DSi XL to 3DS and so on)
-Buy one point card? Use it on the Wii and the DSi in two separate uses!
And mind telling me how those aren't problems? I know very well to not compete with the other competiton 100% due to Nintendo following the Blue Ocean Strategy and instead find new ways.
But let's look at it - Sure
you don't care. Like hell I don't care with my Wii to not be scared of that since I have everything backed up. But we
should be thinking about the crowd outside of us when discussing how to improve problems. Or hell just how to improve.
And when looking at it, you won't only fix a problem, you'll also appeal to some fans and get more money. I know I'd buy a good deal of VC games if I could play them on my 3DS. Compared to other fixes people want, it's a rather easy one. It won't happen overnight but it can for sure happen.
Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on March 27, 2010, 11:05:55 AM
That's like the 700th time I've seen you saying that word.
I still don't see why that's all important. In all honesty, it's okay as it is.
It's fine in terms of making money. It is not at all fine in terms of gaming compared to the PS3 and 360. Even the iPhone is starting to advance past Nintendo.
Considering I have the clunky DS and it's broken I'm getting the DSi XL cause I want huge screens. I wont be downloading stuff though, cause I'll do that when I get the 3DS. I do think it's a horrible move by Nintendo that they wont let you redownload titles
My opinion is that DSi XL probably isn't intended to be a successor of the DSi, but rather just another edition of it; to allow customers to, when wanting to buy a DS, have a choice of either getting a smaller and portable DSi or a larger and slightly more expensive XL version.
Though this would have made more sense if they released both at the same time, they probably decided to hold it off for some time for the bit of bonus sale they get from people who decide to buy both due to that time delay.
Though I do agree that DSiWare sale data should be transferable between multiple DSi systems (in case of replacing a damaged one or something), I think it's not all that important to transfer shop data until an actual sequel system that intentionally targets people already owning a DSi (3DS) is released. I believe I've mentioned the same kind of issue before for WiiWare and Virtual Console games being transferable to a Wii2.
Friend codes would work well, in my opinion, if a single number spanned across all your Nintendo games and were, by extension, portable. Being a randomly-generated string of numbers rather than a user-chosen alphanumeric ID isn't really a significant difference and can have some advantages.
Quote from: Third K on March 27, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
I still believe Nintendo should get on the ballgame and put in user names; Not everyone has to have one. Most "casuals" can still stick with FC's while the fans more into gaming can go out and sign up for an account.
A way I think would work better and make more sense for Nintendo to do would be:
After the first time a new system has been successfully connected to the internet, the console prompts the user "Do you currently have a Nintendo Code for your <insert list of other modern Nintendo systems>?"
If yes, it asks for that number and uses simple verification. If not, it generates a new one for you. If the code is already associated with another system, that system must unlink with an option in the settings or be forcibly unlinked in some way if broken to prevent many people from sharing a number (dunno how gamertags work, but I know iTunes is like that with its accounts)
Quote-The ability to not be scared if one of your systems break unless you saved it on a gig card.
On an SD card, you mean? Games which are copied to an SD card cannot be detected and copied by other systems besides the specific one which copied it in the first place.
They don't care. Why don't they care? because they will sell anyway, people will ninny and whine, then in the long run, buy it anyway, though they lose a few dozen customers for that product, most that would've will still buy.
Quote from: Third K on March 27, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
-Buy one point card? Use it on the Wii and the DSi in two separate uses!
Not very wise business for Nintendo. Then again, they should be able to do it with all of the shovelware that's being bought. I guess they just don't want people reselling it if a person only has one system.