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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: Magnum on March 27, 2010, 11:57:02 AM

Poll
Question: What is your Music?
Option 1: Guitar Hero
Option 2: Rock Band
Option 3: DJ Hero
Option 4: Band Hero
Option 5: Other
Title: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Magnum on March 27, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
Guitar Hero wasn't the first game of its kind, but it put itself out there and on a home platform. Who hasn't dreamt of shreding the guitar on the main stage? Well, this is how you fufill your dream. In the beginning, there was only Guitar Hero, and it did what it did. And it done good.
Rock Band came along shortly after, but with a twist. Not everyone wanted to play Guitar. Some just had the dream of singing in front of the crowd. And despite how terrible it was, the Mic was there. But that wasn't all. A full band of 4 waited, something Guitar Hero would pick up.
DJ Hero took a fabled different rout. You were a DJ. Not much more.
Band Hero is for the Wii. AKA all you suckers.
Other is Stepmania and DDR I guess.

Personally, I choose Rock Band, even though I don't own any ;) So, what is your game of choose?
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on March 27, 2010, 01:57:43 PM
DrumMania Rock Band because I love Harmonix and Guitar Hero is poopty.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: The Riddler on March 27, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
Rock Band, easily.

But DJ Hero is so intercourse ing fun.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Doodle on March 27, 2010, 02:29:19 PM
It''s choice. :U
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on March 27, 2010, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: Rosencrantz on March 27, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
Rock Band, easily.

But DJ Hero is so intercourse ing fun.

DJ Hero is good stuff.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Kaso on March 27, 2010, 02:36:10 PM
I firmly stand by my favorite, Beatmania. A DDR is fine too.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Thirdkoopa on March 27, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
Well, Band Hero is really mainly just pop, and it's connected to GH so yeah

DJ Hero is a hit and a miss.

So that leaves it down to GH vs RB: To be honest I think GH takes the cake for me by a slight bit. 1-2 + 80's were all fantastic and had probably some of the best balancing of the series. I think I could put them higher than the others just for being good but that'd be bias. The "band" games, while at least most were not as good as rock band, there were some good ones released that you could get for cheap. To top that, RB2 is only really special to me in it's DLC. While that is an advantage to some players it really isn't all to much for me. Then again to impress with a full band setlist is difficult.

but activision needs to stop whoring it. Thank god they're only doing that with two releases this year.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on March 27, 2010, 03:17:21 PM
Quote from: Third K on March 27, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
Well, Band Hero is really mainly just pop, and it's connected to GH so yeah

DJ Hero is a hit and a miss.

So that leaves it down to GH vs RB: To be honest I think GH takes the cake for me by a slight bit. 1-2 + 80's were all fantastic and had probably some of the best balancing of the series. I think I could put them higher than the others just for being good but that'd be bias. The "band" games, while at least most were not as good as rock band, there were some good ones released that you could get for cheap. To top that, RB2 is only really special to me in it's DLC. While that is an advantage to some players it really isn't all to much for me. Then again to impress with a full band setlist is difficult.

but activision needs to stop whoring it. Thank god they're only doing that with two releases this year.

1 + 2 + 80's was harmonix.
I think you meant to say Rock Band.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Thirdkoopa on March 27, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: Custom on March 27, 2010, 03:17:21 PM
1 + 2 + 80's was harmonix.
I think you meant to say Rock Band.
I know that but they still count under Guitar Hero - Smash Hits is like the biggest reminder ever of that.

Though if I was to rate best developer of the two I'd say HMX. Neversoft is still good in my book but makes dumb choices more often.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: SkyMyl on March 27, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
I guess Rock Band. I own none of the choices and have only played Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and I didn't find anything different between the two experiences. Timing button presses on a plastic instrument to songs I'm unfamiliar with.

Also, "Instrument of choice" is the correct title.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Magnum on March 27, 2010, 08:25:17 PM
Quote from: SkyMyl on March 27, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
I guess Rock Band. I own none of the choices and have only played Guitar Hero and Rock Band, and I didn't find anything different between the two experiences. Timing button presses on a plastic instrument to songs I'm unfamiliar with.

Also, "Instrument of choice" is the correct title.
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Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: The Riddler on March 27, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: Magnum on March 27, 2010, 08:25:17 PM
Not my fault my grandpa doesn't have Firefox to tell me when I screw up.
You can edit the title.

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Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Magnum on March 27, 2010, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Rosencrantz on March 27, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
You can edit the title.

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Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on March 28, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Quote from: Third K on March 27, 2010, 03:19:21 PM
I know that but they still count under Guitar Hero - Smash Hits is like the biggest reminder ever of that.

Though if I was to rate best developer of the two I'd say HMX. Neversoft is still good in my book but makes dumb choices more often.

Smash Hits is the biggest reminder that expert+ charts suck. :(
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: RX-78-2 on April 01, 2010, 01:14:17 AM
I'm a bit biased toward the Guitar Hero series, so that takes first place because they made GH5 look nice and you can stream songs. Also, the drums charts are better (I don't know about Expert+) as well as the controllers (for basic 1st party stuff). The Rock Band series is a close second because of awesome DLC and some other bells and whistles. RB controllers are not good though.

I've never played Band Hero or Lego Rock Band because the family stuff is dumb. As for DJ Hero, I'm not sure about it, but it's been recommended that I play it.

I'm not going to vote though because GH is just *this much* better, rather than enough to deserve a vote over RB.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on April 04, 2010, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on April 01, 2010, 01:14:17 AM
I'm a bit biased toward the Guitar Hero series, so that takes first place because they made GH5 look nice and you can stream songs. Also, the drums charts are better (I don't know about Expert+) as well as the controllers (for basic 1st party stuff). The Rock Band series is a close second because of awesome DLC and some other bells and whistles. RB controllers are not good though.

I've never played Band Hero or Lego Rock Band because the family stuff is dumb. As for DJ Hero, I'm not sure about it, but it's been recommended that I play it.

I'm not going to vote though because GH is just *this much* better, rather than enough to deserve a vote over RB.

>implying the guitar hero instruments are better than the Rock Band instruments

I've had to take mine back countless times. Maybe you don't play as much as I do, bu the Rock Band 2 instruments are the best around. The Guitar Hero ones drop notes much more often. Every single GH3 guitar is faulty in one way or another. The drums for Guitar Hero might have been plastic circles you place on the ground and assign notes to.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: RX-78-2 on April 04, 2010, 10:46:04 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 04, 2010, 07:32:11 PM
>implying the guitar hero instruments are better than the Rock Band instruments

I've had to take mine back countless times. Maybe you don't play as much as I do, bu the Rock Band 2 instruments are the best around. The Guitar Hero ones drop notes much more often. Every single GH3 guitar is faulty in one way or another. The drums for Guitar Hero might have been plastic circles you place on the ground and assign notes to.
I don't play nearly as much as I used to, but the GH instruments are so much better than the RB ones; so much so that I used the GH ones until they were rendered--at least--largely unusable. The RB instruments are of lesser quality from the start, even if they do last longer. The GH instruments are of higher quality from the start, and, maybe because I used them much more, they degraded in quality a bit quicker. I'll agree that the GH3 instruments were flawed, but those are old and irrelevant, as I believe--or at least, I was--talking only of the latest instruments: from GH:WT and RB2 and later.

In addition, the RB drums are so much of lesser quality that I had to get the Premium Ion Drum Rocker (which I'm sure you heard of) just to have good quality for a RB drum kit. My GH drums didn't wear out until after a year of excessive use. First, the cymbals wore out (one after the other), but they were replaced easily. Then, the red pad became extremely thin and therefore extremely sensitive, which was the only irreparable problem (at least for consumers). The normal GH drum controller is of the same quality as a RB drum controller that costs three times as much.

The GH guitar controllers are far superior to the RB ones in every way that matters. The frets are easier to use, the strum bar is more responsive and precise, and the whammy bar is faster and better sprung. The GH guitar is even tougher as a whole.

Besides, who's implying anything? I've never heard of anyone else who thought the RB controllers (any of them) were better than their GH counterparts. Also, the RB controllers have been the "note-droppers" for me. On a side note, maybe it was it the game itself, but either way, it's a problem with the RB series.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Custom on April 05, 2010, 12:43:54 AM
Quote from: RX-78-2 (TerribleFrog) on April 04, 2010, 10:46:04 PM
I don't play nearly as much as I used to, but the GH instruments are so much better than the RB ones; so much so that I used the GH ones until they were rendered--at least--largely unusable. The RB instruments are of lesser quality from the start, even if they do last longer. The GH instruments are of higher quality from the start, and, maybe because I used them much more, they degraded in quality a bit quicker. I'll agree that the GH3 instruments were flawed, but those are old and irrelevant, as I believe--or at least, I was--talking only of the latest instruments: from GH:WT and RB2 and later.

In addition, the RB drums are so much of lesser quality that I had to get the Premium Ion Drum Rocker (which I'm sure you heard of) just to have good quality for a RB drum kit. My GH drums didn't wear out until after a year of excessive use. First, the cymbals wore out (one after the other), but they were replaced easily. Then, the red pad became extremely thin and therefore extremely sensitive, which was the only irreparable problem (at least for consumers). The normal GH drum controller is of the same quality as a RB drum controller that costs three times as much.

The GH guitar controllers are far superior to the RB ones in every way that matters. The frets are easier to use, the strum bar is more responsive and precise, and the whammy bar is faster and better sprung. The GH guitar is even tougher as a whole.

Besides, who's implying anything? I've never heard of anyone else who thought the RB controllers (any of them) were better than their GH counterparts. Also, the RB controllers have been the "note-droppers" for me. On a side note, maybe it was it the game itself, but either way, it's a problem with the RB series.

I have IONs. With IONs I beat things like WAHNTHAC. With RB2 drums I five star things like Visions. With Guitar Hero drums I fail things like Everlong. Even JLC knows that the Guitar Hero drums suck.
I can't tell you how many times my WT guitar has broken. Random frets stop working, the tapping thing hardly works, strum bar breaks.
If I'm going for FCs, I use my Guitar Hero 2 (360, although I have no problem with the PS2 guitars) guitar. Second best is RB2. Maybe I like the RB2 Guitar a bit more because it feels more like a real guitar. I have more room to hit notes and the whammy feels much more realistic. That and the solo buttons actually work.

Problem with the series? Maybe you don't know how to calibrate or hit notes in a timing window that isn't 8 seconds wide.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: RX-78-2 on April 08, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 05, 2010, 12:43:54 AM
I have IONs. With IONs I beat things like WAHNTHAC. With RB2 drums I five star things like Visions. With Guitar Hero drums I fail things like Everlong. Even JLC knows that the Guitar Hero drums suck.
I can't tell you how many times my WT guitar has broken. Random frets stop working, the tapping thing hardly works, strum bar breaks.
If I'm going for FCs, I use my Guitar Hero 2 (360, although I have no problem with the PS2 guitars) guitar. Second best is RB2. Maybe I like the RB2 Guitar a bit more because it feels more like a real guitar. I have more room to hit notes and the whammy feels much more realistic. That and the solo buttons actually work.

Problem with the series? Maybe you don't know how to calibrate or hit notes in a timing window that isn't 8 seconds wide.
How could you fail "Everlong" with a GH drum set? It's much easier for me to play that song with the GH:WT drum set on GH:WT than with their RB counterparts. Also, don't bring other people into this unless there are many of them and if they are significant. I don't know JLC; in this case, I have to assume that he, she, or it is a user at this forum, but a random person's (or organization's) opinion doesn't carry much weight here--especially if they're largely unknown.

But I digress. You obviously play drums for music games much more than I do; indeed, I play but 2-3 days a week for maybe an hour each day (with vacation weeks being the only exception). But as for the GH:WT guitar, mine has only broken once (the strum bar periodically switches from only strumming up or down). The whammy did break as well, but this only makes it easier to whammy, so I never count this as a problem. The "tapping thing" (whatever you're talking about) always works for me, as--whatever tapping you're referring to--, I've never had a problem with it/them. The frets--from what I remember (as I haven't used that guitar in a while)--worked fine for me. The GH:WT guitar was the first guitar to fix that problem, only being improved on in GH5.

I cannot say much about the RB2 guitar, as I don't own one and haven't used one much. However, what I do know is that the controller itself isn't much of an improvement over its predecessor. Personally, I've always liked the whammy bar on GH controllers better than those on the RB controllers. GH games are also much better for recognizing the way in which a whammy bar is used. Offhand, I'd say that GH games can recognize at least twice as much "whammying" than RB games. Although I must say that I've never found a problem with the solo buttons on my RB guitar.

Also, (I said this in my last post) keep in mind that I'm merely talking of GH and RB controllers from GH:WT and RB2 and later. The rest aren't exactly obsolete, but have been improved on much--at least in GH's case--and are therefore largely irrelevant in comparing and contrasting contemporary instrument peripherals. Thanks for the personal anecdotes though.

To your last comment, I hope you're saying that only facetiously, as my calibration is fine and I don't know of any 8 second "wide" timing window.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Turok on April 08, 2010, 08:45:17 PM
 8) Fuck yeah Wii Music! Uh, I mean.....

I haven't played any of the recent GH games, not since they took the RB source code & edited in the GH logo added the other parts, but I play RB all the time.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Allegretto on June 12, 2010, 10:38:37 PM
Guitar hero because I am a god.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: Java on June 22, 2010, 12:58:17 AM
Even though I own more Guitar Hero games than Rock Band games, I've come to the conclusion that I prefer Rock Band.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: 2-D on June 22, 2010, 11:37:59 AM
GH < Rock Band!
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: The Riddler on June 22, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
Quote from: Omega Bro on April 08, 2010, 08:45:17 PM
8) Fuck yeah Wii Music!

Oh god, intercourse ing this.

RB3 will be my game of choice as soon as it comes out. Pro mode seems hella interesting.
Title: Re: Intrument of Choose
Post by: 2-D on June 23, 2010, 09:07:30 AM
Quote from: Detective Conan on June 22, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
RB3 will be my game of choice as soon as it comes out. Pro mode seems hella interesting.

...Pro mode...? D: