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Game-o-rama => Console Gaming => Topic started by: The Riddler on April 28, 2010, 11:13:34 PM

Title: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: The Riddler on April 28, 2010, 11:13:34 PM
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Mario World.

In the above titles, Mario could either breathe underwater, or hold his breath infinitely.

Why did he lose his water breathing abilities in SM64 and later titles?
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: JrDude on April 28, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
In most side scroller games, it would be annoying if you could drown, not being able to breathe also gave the games an extra challenge.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: StarWindWizard7 on April 29, 2010, 03:36:05 AM
Answer me this...

Why is Mario even able to shoot fireballs under water...
And the fire ball's bounce off the ground.
>_>
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: SkyMyl on April 29, 2010, 09:43:10 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/NewSuperMarioBrosWiiBoxart.png)

Mario could breathe underwater in NSMB.

Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on April 29, 2010, 03:36:05 AM
Answer me this...

Why is Mario even able to shoot fireballs under water...
And the fire ball's bounce off the ground.
>_>
Magic.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Zero on April 29, 2010, 10:05:51 AM
Why you're asking for logic and continuity in a japanese franchise is beyond me.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: DededeCloneChris on April 29, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
Quote from: Zero on April 29, 2010, 10:05:51 AM
Why you're asking for logic and continuity in a japanese franchise is beyond me.
Logic + Games = Fantasy
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Kilroy on April 29, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
He could breathe through his shoes in SM64, isn't that enough?
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: X-3 on April 29, 2010, 06:19:05 PM
He has off days.

SM64? He was sick that day. That's why Peach was going to bake him a cake.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on April 30, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: X-3 on April 29, 2010, 06:19:05 PM
He has off days.

SM64? He was sick that day. That's why Peach was going to bake him a cake.
That...makes perfect sense.
Almost.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Macawmoses on May 01, 2010, 12:50:37 AM
A better question is why can mario breath in space?
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: The Riddler on May 01, 2010, 01:03:36 AM
Quote from: Sherlock on May 01, 2010, 12:50:37 AM
A better question is why can mario breath in space?
All video game characters and cartoons can breath in space.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: bluaki on May 01, 2010, 03:52:02 AM
Quote from: Sherlock on May 01, 2010, 12:50:37 AM
A better question is why can mario breath in space?
And yet, he can't breathe in space in Super Paper Mario, the only sidescroll Mario game that ventures to space, even though he can breathe in water in the same game. You need to find a fishbowl, which really shouldn't  contain nearly enough oxygen to last him the entire chapter. But no such issue exists in Paper Mario TTYD's Moon nor in Super Mario Galaxy.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Cornwad on May 01, 2010, 08:21:31 AM
So he can either choose between breathing underwater or breathing in space. Too bad he didn't go into space in 64 or Sunshine to put that ability to good use.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: So_So_Man on May 01, 2010, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: bluaki on May 01, 2010, 03:52:02 AM
And yet, he can't breathe in space in Super Paper Mario, the only sidescroll Mario game that ventures to space, even though he can breathe in water in the same game. You need to find a fishbowl, which really shouldn't  contain nearly enough oxygen to last him the entire chapter. But no such issue exists in Paper Mario TTYD's Moon nor in Super Mario Galaxy.
Mario clearly has mysterious magic powers that he is incapable of consciously controlling.  As long as he thinks he can do something, its possible.  Mario is also somewhat unintelligent, not realizing that you can't breath in the air you breath out, so his magic powers make it safe.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: DededeCloneChris on May 02, 2010, 01:28:24 AM
Quote from: So_So_Man on May 01, 2010, 11:41:27 PM
Mario clearly has mysterious magic powers that he is incapable of consciously controlling.  As long as he thinks he can do something, its possible.  Mario is also somewhat unintelligent, not realizing that you can't breath in the air you breath out, so his magic powers make it safe.
...Or Miyamoto just forgets. :p
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: The Riddler on May 02, 2010, 01:32:50 AM
Fuck you, Miyamoto is infallible.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Thirdkoopa on May 03, 2010, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: bluaki on May 01, 2010, 03:52:02 AM
And yet, he can't breathe in space in Super Paper Mario, the only sidescroll Mario game that ventures to space, even though he can breathe in water in the same game. You need to find a fishbowl, which really shouldn't  contain nearly enough oxygen to last him the entire chapter. But no such issue exists in Paper Mario TTYD's Moon nor in Super Mario Galaxy.

Simple (Yet a bit dull minded) answer to this question: SPM was half-assed.

aren't i so kind :D
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Zero on May 03, 2010, 01:44:32 PM
Not sure why it matters.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: The Riddler on May 03, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
Quote from: Zero on May 03, 2010, 01:44:32 PM
Not sure why it matters.
Fun to discuss.
WHY SO SERIOUS?


Nah but seriously, why does everything have to be so serious with you?
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Zero on May 04, 2010, 03:26:17 AM
Quote from: Jeff Probst on May 03, 2010, 01:46:40 PM
Fun to discuss.
WHY SO SERIOUS?


Nah but seriously, why does everything have to be so serious with you?

It's probably just this particular topic. I'm usually only serious when the situation demands it.
Title: Re: Mario can no longer breath under water.
Post by: Rayquarian on May 04, 2010, 04:32:04 AM
Mario only breathes underwater when its inconvenient for him to.