As some of you may or may not know, a law called COICA (Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act) was in legislation recently. Luckily, it's been put on hold for a while. Basically the law would allow sites that the Department of Justice felt was infringing on copyright (pretty much every good site out there) to be wiped clean off the internet. That's terrifying. Luckily it's been shelved for the time being.
However, Congress is still trying to pressure ISPs into censoring certain sites in the meantime.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100929/20293711230/even-without-coica-white-house-asking-registrars-to-voluntarily-censor-infringing-sites.shtml
This is terrifying to me. It's like 1984 has truly come into full swing.
so why is the congress lately jumping into the mainstream media of the world of Internet? Basically they want to get rid of sites like serebii or something?
Sometimes I just hate people. I really do.
There's money being made on the internets. Corporations don't like the fact that Joe Hockensack may be taking something out of their bottom line. So they start pressuring the congressmen that they "donated" campaign money to, and threaten to dry up if something doesn't happen.
It's unique because it's not really a two sided issue like most. There aren't two sides thowing money at politicians, like Big Oil and the Environmental lobby. There's no one really out there tossing money out on behalf of Joe Shmoe and his Pokemon FanFic website. It's not so much 1984 and Big Brother trying to control the thoughts and expressions of the man, it's just good old American Corporate Greed.
And our "elected" officials are just dumb enough to enforce such stupid legislation! God bless American and our dumbass politicians and greedy corporations.
Every wikia on the net would vanish, lol.
@Nayr:
You act as though America is the only country with corrupt politicians and greedy corporations.
Quote from: Zero on October 02, 2010, 09:12:45 AM
Every wikia on the net would vanish, lol.
@Nayr:
You act as though America is the only country with corrupt politicians and greedy corporations.
Were did I ever suggest that we were the only ones in that post? X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on October 02, 2010, 08:48:06 AM
And our "elected" officials are just dumb enough to enforce such stupid legislation! God bless American and our dumbass politicians and greedy corporations.
QFT. Maybe it's also the people who are dumb enough to elect these people into office?
Quote from: Nayrman on October 02, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
Were did I ever suggest that we were the only ones in that post? X_X;;
You didn't. Just making sure you're not oblivious to other countries I suppose.
Quote from: Lotos on October 02, 2010, 11:34:24 AM
QFT. Maybe it's also the people who are dumb enough to elect these people into office?
all the politicians up for election are vagina cleaning devices. theres not any good choices. u have to choose the least worst one.
The government is gonna rule our lives by 2012. :|
I'll cry.
Technically, even NSFCD violates copyright laws in some ways.
OH GOLLY GOSH THIS WILL BE INTERESTING.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 03, 2010, 01:48:02 PM
Technically, even NSFCD violates copyright laws in some ways.
OH GOLLY GOSH THIS WILL BE INTERESTING.
So the only things left will be corporate sites that only exist to sell a product. OH FUCKING JOY.
What happened to fair use?
Quote from: Nayrman on October 03, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
So the only things left will be corporate sites that only exist to sell a product. OH FUCKING JOY.
No one would use the Internet then, it kind of defeats the purpose of linking all of the computers in the world together if the only thing they do is play ads.
Quote from: Tupin on October 03, 2010, 03:35:08 PM
What happened to fair use?
Corporations don't care about fair use. Why do you think Disney "urges" (and by that I mean pays) Congress to extend copyright every time Steamboat Willie is about to hit public domain?
Quote from: Nayrman on October 03, 2010, 04:19:27 PM
Corporations don't care about fair use. Why do you think Disney "urges" (and by that I mean pays) Congress to extend copyright every time Steamboat Willie is about to hit public domain?
Because Disney is pure intercourse ing evil.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 03, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Because Disney is pure intercourse ing evil.
Well that's the most obvious statement in the world. Hell, water is wet is less obvious than Disney being evil.
Well, it IS their premier character... the one that they haven't used in over 30 years in any major motion picture, but their premier character nonetheless. Plus, it is a part of history. I guess I could understand if they didn't want it lumped together with a bunch of other public domain stuff on a $1 DVD.
What about reviews? What about discussion of any sort of media?
Quote from: Tupin on October 03, 2010, 07:59:22 PM
Well, it IS their premier character... the one that they haven't used in over 30 years in any major motion picture, but their premier character nonetheless. Plus, it is a part of history. I guess I could understand if they didn't want it lumped together with a bunch of other public domain stuff on a $1 DVD.
What about reviews? What about discussion of any sort of media?
And this is why I hate corporate ownership. WALT DISNEY made that short, no one currently working at Disney had anything to do with that short, or any of the old 40's shorts. But of course, they'll always get what the want because they "coerce" (read: pay) congress to basically permanently make it theirs. Fuck them and intercourse this horrible copyright law.
Speaking of being safe, can we say Pokemon Black and White details now?
Quote from: Tupin on October 03, 2010, 03:35:08 PM
What happened to fair use?
It took the last ferry to the coast
THE DAY. THE INTERNET. DIED.
I have to say seeing this poop trying to be enacted is rather stupid...first of all, communities devoted to various products will die. This will kill hype and whatnot.
Second of all, how are they going to jail all these people for this? HOW I ASK YOU!?
sure, they may take down large servers, but whose to say that small sites will go unnoticed? This is sounding like the end of the internet.
Even if it happened, I really doubt it would be enforced.
Quote from: Persephone on October 04, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
Even if it happened, I really doubt it would be enforced.
I think you'ld see enforcement in about the same way the RIAA handles music. They take down targets and make them highly publicized. And it won't just be high profile targets. They'll take down little sites in order to show that they're willing to come after anybody, making examples of people while they go in order to threaten everybody else.
Quote from: BOREDFANBOY on October 04, 2010, 08:47:35 PM
I think you'ld see enforcement in about the same way the RIAA handles music. They take down targets and make them highly publicized. And it won't just be high profile targets. They'll take down little sites in order to show that they're willing to come after anybody, making examples of people while they go in order to threaten everybody else.
The worst that happens to the average person is receiving an angry letter from their ISP. (and ISPs really don't care 99% of the time) It's mostly just a load of steam and scare tactics.
Though it really is a shame that governments encourage this kind of corporate bullying in the first place. Old dinosaurs really should learn how the internet works and stop clinging to their outdated business models.
Quote from: Tupin on October 03, 2010, 08:36:00 PM
Speaking of being safe, can we say Pokemon Black and White details now?
Nope. Nintendo is still being silly.
Quote from: Persephone on October 04, 2010, 10:20:32 PM
The worst that happens to the average person is receiving an angry letter from their ISP. (and ISPs really don't care 99% of the time) It's mostly just a load of steam and scare tactics.
Though it really is a shame that governments encourage this kind of corporate bullying in the first place. Old dinosaurs really should learn how the internet works and stop clinging to their outdated business models.
Oh yeah, ISPs only care if they're really pressured. Why risk losing customers over silly threats? Unless you're doing some hardcore pirating, you'll maybe get a letter.
This is a democracy, so the people are to blame.