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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: The Riddler on April 15, 2011, 04:23:36 PM

Title: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 15, 2011, 04:23:36 PM
too lazy to PM just help us.

We're making you one of our two "version exclusive" pokemon in our NSFDex. Silver is the other and he's obviously a Silver Hawk.

What would you be? A Mackerel? A Moose? WAT?!

Help.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Custom on April 16, 2011, 02:15:28 PM
make super instead mack doesn't deserve to be an exclusive.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 16, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 16, 2011, 02:15:28 PM
make super instead mack doesn't deserve to be an exclusive.
but I beat Super in the poll.

And I've no idea Rob. I've never represented myself with an animal.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 02:40:45 PM
Some people said Moose for the Moses part.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 16, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
It'd be an interesting dichotomy to have the hawk prey on the fish but have the fish capable of doing severe damage to the hawk. To give an example, imagine I was Stunfisk and I'm assuming you guys are making Silver Skarmory (more or less). Stunfisk's ground moves can't do poop, but its electric ones can.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 02:56:30 PM
Oh yeah. That sounds perfect.
I always feel that pokemon counterparts should have 1 strength and 1 weakness toward one another to balance out their competitiveness. (Not sure if that's the right word)
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 04:08:22 PM
Didn't someone once call Mack a cat, which prompted to make someone (think it was Bored) create an image with a cat facing a computer with the caption "FUCK, OUTED BY SILVER"?

I know this happened.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 16, 2011, 04:11:45 PM
yes
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 04:13:02 PM
I must have missed that.
Cause I don't remember.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on April 16, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
For reference, Mack intercourse ing loves Stunfisk.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
The brown whoppie cushion deserves the love it never gets.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: JrDude on April 16, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
If Mack becomes a Ground type of any kind, one of it's moves could be Smack Down, which makes Fly + Levitate Get on the ground and hitable by ground moves (I think that's the move anyway), then it's ground moves can kick Silver's buttocks.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
So then pure Ground or Ground dual?
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 16, 2011, 05:11:48 PM
If Mack becomes a Ground type of any kind, one of it's moves could be Smack Down, which makes Fly + Levitate Get on the ground and hitable by ground moves (I think that's the move anyway), then it's ground moves can kick Silver's buttocks.
It's either Smack down or Knock down. One of these is the Japanese name, one's the English. Or something like that. I don't remember, honestly.

Quote from: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:17:36 PM
So then pure Ground or Ground dual?
Ground/Electric, of course, like Stunfisk.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:44:42 PM
Quote from: Chandelure on April 16, 2011, 05:34:45 PM
It's either Smack down or Knock down. One of these is the Japanese name, one's the English. Or something like that. I don't remember, honestly.
English = Smack Down
Japanese = Knock Down
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:44:42 PM
English = Smack Down
Japanese = Knock Down
That's it.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:57:40 PM
Smack Down sort of gives off a wrestling image to me.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:57:40 PM
Smack Down sort of gives off a wrestling image to me.
Take Down doesn't?
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: Chandelure on April 16, 2011, 05:59:44 PM
Take Down doesn't?
I completely forgot about that.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: JrDude on April 16, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 05:57:40 PM
Smack Down sort of gives off a wrestling image to me.
Isn't there a wrestling type program called Smack Down or something? Either way, it gave me a wrestling image to me too.
I thought it was fighting type at first (It was being used against me)
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 06:16:07 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 16, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Isn't there a wrestling type program called Smack Down or something? Either way, it gave me a wrestling image to me too.
I thought it was fighting type at first (It was being used against me)
Somehow the term "Smackdown!" comes to mind as a wrestling event. I don't know if it is or not.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: on April 16, 2011, 06:34:11 PM
it is
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 16, 2011, 06:47:06 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 16, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Isn't there a wrestling type program called Smack Down or something? Either way, it gave me a wrestling image to me too.
I thought it was fighting type at first (It was being used against me)
I believe so.
I'm pretty sure I ran by it on TV once.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 16, 2011, 06:54:33 PM
Wait, so he's gonna be a Ground/Electric Mackerel?
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 16, 2011, 06:54:33 PM
Wait, so he's gonna be a Ground/Electric Mackerel?
I don't even know anymore.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 16, 2011, 10:12:55 PM
I really like the Moose idea, tbqh.
The Hawk is almost like a proud-American type deal and the moose is a proud-Canadian type deal.
The Hawk would be Steel/Flying, the moose could be a number of combinations.
Ice/Fire would be sick. Ice for the cold climates, and fire for the intercourse whynot.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 16, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Ice/Fire would give me type advantages on both of his types.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 10:44:57 PM
Quote from: Mackerelmoses on April 16, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Ice/Fire would give me type advantages on both of his types.
Steel resists Ice, so Ice is a no.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 16, 2011, 10:55:32 PM
Oh you're right.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 10:56:41 PM
Steel also beats ice, but it's not very effective against Fire, so Silver would have nothing on you.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 16, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: Mackerelmoses on April 16, 2011, 10:32:44 PM
Ice/Fire would give me type advantages on both of his types.
His steel would be strong to your ice.
Your Fire would be strong to his steel. The Fire and Flying are irrelevant to each other.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 16, 2011, 11:00:35 PM
His steel would be strong to your ice.
Read my last post.

Fire cancels it out.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 16, 2011, 11:09:43 PM
Quote from: Chandelure on April 16, 2011, 11:02:03 PM
Read my last post.

Fire cancels it out.
Missed that resistance.

Steel is weak to Fire.
Flying is weak to Electric.
Those are Silver's only weaknesses, so Mack must have one of them.

Steel is strong to Rock and Ice, Flying is strong to Bug, Fighting, and Grass.
Mack should also be one of those.

Electric/Grass?
Electric/Ice?
Grass/Fire?
uh
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 16, 2011, 11:09:43 PM
Missed that resistance.

Steel is weak to Fire.
Flying is weak to Electric.
Those are Silver's only weaknesses, so Mack must have one of them.

Steel is strong to Rock and Ice, Flying is strong to Bug, Fighting, and Grass.
Mack should also be one of those.

Electric/Grass?
Electric/Ice?
Grass/Fire?
uh
But none of those really fit Mack, really. Not like any type does, but I'm just not seeing it.

Then again Silverhawk doesn't have to be Steel. It was just an assumption based on the color and metallic qualities of physical silver, but really it can be any time combined with Flying... and probably colored Silver.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 16, 2011, 11:21:56 PM
Quote from: Chandelure on April 16, 2011, 11:15:05 PM
But none of those really fit Mack, really. Not like any type does, but I'm just not seeing it.

Then again Silverhawk doesn't have to be Steel. It was just an assumption based on the color and metallic qualities of physical silver, but really it can be any time combined with Flying... and probably colored Silver.
Silver himself likes Steel/Flying.
He's the owner of this place and since we're basing it on them, he gets first dibs on choice.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 16, 2011, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 16, 2011, 11:21:56 PM
Silver himself likes Steel/Flying.
He's the owner of this place and since we're basing it on them, he gets first dibs on choice.
Ah, okay. I wasn't sure if he asked for the typing or if we just forced it onto him.

Do we want Silver to beat Mack? Mack to beat Silver? Both? Neither? If neither we have more options.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 12:41:22 AM
Just remove Electric since it resists both Steel and Flying.
Fire/Grass seems to be the only other option, but even that sounds irrelevant.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: JrDude on April 17, 2011, 01:45:01 AM
Fight/Fire.

Fire is strong against Silver's Steel.
Flying is strong against Mack's Fight. (If this is taken)

Fire is super effective. Fight is neutral.
Fly is super effective. Steel is not very effective (is it .5 or .25? I don't remember if steel is neutral or .5 of fight)

Mack has more power over Silver, but Silver still has power over Mack.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
I was going to say that, but then I thought everyone else would end up hating on it since it was done in 3 Gens.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: JrDude on April 17, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 02:22:30 AM
I was going to say that, but then I thought everyone else would end up hating on it since it was done in 3 Gens.
3 gens in a row as starters, never as anything else.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Seventh on April 17, 2011, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 16, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
Isn't there a wrestling type program called Smack Down or something? Either way, it gave me a wrestling image to me too.
I thought it was fighting type at first (It was being used against me)
I think it was called WWE SMACKDOWN or something.  And no, I don't watch wrestling, it's called commercials.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 17, 2011, 01:45:01 AM
Fight/Fire.

Fire is strong against Silver's Steel.
Flying is strong against Mack's Fight. (If this is taken)

Fire is super effective. Fight is neutral.
Fly is super effective. Steel is not very effective (is it .5 or .25? I don't remember if steel is neutral or .5 of fight)

Mack has more power over Silver, but Silver still has power over Mack.
If this were to happen, epic battles would ensue.  MACK VS. SILVER-FIGHT OF THE CENTURY.  ONE, THE FOUNDER OF NSFCD, THE OTHER, NSFCD BUSINESS EXTRAORDINAIRE.  WHO WILL WIN?
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 10:23:29 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 17, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
3 gens in a row as starters, never as anything else.
Alright then.
I 2nd that option.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 17, 2011, 03:22:09 PM
While the carbon-copied Fire starters of that exact type combination caused me to hate it in general, there are still many more types that are way more used. (Water/Ground, Bug/Flying, etc) Plus, it fits Mack well in my opinion.

Fire/Fighting let it be.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
I was also going to suggest Fire/Bug in place of Fire/Grass, but that wouldn't sound right.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Kayo on April 17, 2011, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: FruitFlow on April 17, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
I was also going to suggest Fire/Bug in place of Fire/Grass, but that wouldn't sound right.
We already have a Fire/Bug and it's rather weak defensively. Plus, contradictions galore. I have a good feeling we'll be sticking with Fire/Fighting.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: The Riddler on April 17, 2011, 04:05:20 PM
Fire/Fighting, since it's a Moose, makes it feel like it's supposed to be a 5th member of the Gaykateer Trio. If you miss the point I'm trying to make here you're retarded.

If you make one of the sides Ice or Grass, it can represent the Mooses natural habitat.
Title: Re: Attn: Mack. Please read.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 17, 2011, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: Cecil Harvey on April 17, 2011, 04:05:20 PM
Fire/Fighting, since it's a Moose, makes it feel like it's supposed to be a 5th member of the Gaykateer Trio. If you miss the point I'm trying to make here you're retarded.

If you make one of the sides Ice or Grass, it can represent the Mooses natural habitat.
I think Grass makes it feel like something of a Sawsbuck evolution.