Surprised no one has made a thread about this. It's becoming pretty huge. Do you agree or disagree with this protest?
http://occupywallst.org/
Discuss
I didn't think it would last this long, so it's good that it has. Wall Street still thinks it's a joke, though.
A fairly respectable size of the general public maintains general uncertainty towards the protest, mainly because a clear goal in all of this remains unestablished. However, I don't think a goal is necessary for this protest. In my opinion, the OccupyWallStreet movement, and its various consequential branches, are nothing more than a testament to the general, collective anger that has been building up within the middle class, which makes it all the more compelling. It literally invites all of the middle class to come together to support a common cause. However, not everyone is buying in to it. With time this movement will grow into something much bigger than it is now.
read some of http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
try not to get mad
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 11, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
read some of http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
try not to get mad
oh man
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 11, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
read some of http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
try not to get mad
What am I supposed to be getting mad at?
i see that all the time on nsfcd and i'm not even mad
Quote from: Kayo on October 11, 2011, 08:59:04 PM
i see that all the time on nsfcd and i'm not even mad
Well its difficult to be angry at yourself Kayo
OWS's makeup is as follows:
40-45% hardcore socialists/communists/syndicalists who think that if they had control over the corrupt government/corporatist apparatus everything would be honky-dory and they wouldn't be as corrupt as the politicians who are already there.
10-20% libertarians and more fiscally-minded tea partiers who are attempting to argue that the problem isn't just restricted to those evil Wall Street execs and business mandates and want to throw more spotlight on the politicians who are equally if not more responsible for the current state of affairs.
40-45% members of the general public who are fickle/moderate/opportunists and have a vaguely-defined sense that "something is wrong" with the current state of affairs in the country and are basically there because they're either unemployed or have nothing better to do.
You can see a couple good articles on the protests here (http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/10/silencing-john-lewis-is-what-d) and here (http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/occupying-wall-street/).
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Quote from: Mona on October 11, 2011, 10:32:46 PM
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lol
Quote from: IhsoyOhcysp on October 11, 2011, 10:24:10 PM
OWS's makeup is as follows:
40-45% hardcore socialists/communists/syndicalists who think that if they had control over the corrupt government/corporatist apparatus everything would be honky-dory and they wouldn't be as corrupt as the politicians who are already there.
10-20% libertarians and more fiscally-minded tea partiers who are attempting to argue that the problem isn't just restricted to those evil Wall Street execs and business mandates and want to throw more spotlight on the politicians who are equally if not more responsible for the current state of affairs.
40-45% members of the general public who are fickle/moderate/opportunists and have a vaguely-defined sense that "something is wrong" with the current state of affairs in the country and are basically there because they're either unemployed or have nothing better to do.
You can see a couple good articles on the protests here (http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/10/silencing-john-lewis-is-what-d) and here (http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/occupying-wall-street/).
Any sources for these statistics? Curious.
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 11, 2011, 07:01:09 PM
read some of http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/
try not to get mad
Some of this poop is actually touching.
Though I don't appreciate the little kid/high schooler ones.
But you'll understand more when you're a little older, Bear.
Quote from: IhsoyOhcysp on October 11, 2011, 10:24:10 PM
OWS's makeup is as follows:
40-45% hardcore socialists/communists/syndicalists who think that if they had control over the corrupt government/corporatist apparatus everything would be honky-dory and they wouldn't be as corrupt as the politicians who are already there.
10-20% libertarians and more fiscally-minded tea partiers who are attempting to argue that the problem isn't just restricted to those evil Wall Street execs and business mandates and want to throw more spotlight on the politicians who are equally if not more responsible for the current state of affairs.
40-45% members of the general public who are fickle/moderate/opportunists and have a vaguely-defined sense that "something is wrong" with the current state of affairs in the country and are basically there because they're either unemployed or have nothing better to do.
You can see a couple good articles on the protests here (http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/10/silencing-john-lewis-is-what-d) and here (http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/tgif/occupying-wall-street/).
Sources? Those seem to be some uninformed and highly generalized statements.
Quote from: Riddler21 on October 12, 2011, 12:02:07 AM
Some of this poop is actually touching.
Though I don't appreciate the little kid/high schooler ones.
But you'll understand more when you're a little older, Bear.
condescension
i know full well how the economy works, and I know that most of these cases are self inflicted with the occasional sob story.
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 08:16:33 AM
condescension
i know full well how the economy works, and I know that most of these cases are self inflicted with the occasional sob story.
i can agree with this
tbh most of the people that have been "looking for jobs" for the past <insert time value here> are just lazy, picky, and aren't really trying
sure, it doesn't apply to everyone, but there are jobs. if you need one you can get one. if you're really that desperate you can go into construction, there are tons of jobs there. a little manual labor won't kill you.
also notice how everyone has like 2-4 kids
kids are expensive as intercourse , need to think about how you'll support them before popping them out. one usually works fine, but more than that is a major dent in your economic standing. 4 is a huge dent.
then again i think we're all morons and are spoiled as intercourse
always want more and can't be happy with what we have
but that's the american way.
i mean yes, there are currently problems in our economy and government
but when this is resolved there will be new problems and people still won't have enough
people didn't have enough when i was 6
people don't have enough now
so all in all i really don't give a poop. politics are corrupt and retarded. the people are spoiled and retarded. if these average people were given a spot in power they'd turn into what they hated and nothing would improve.
let's all go live in india or some poop
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 08:16:33 AM
condescension
i know full well how the economy works, and I know that most of these cases are self inflicted with the occasional sob story.
Because all people are given the same opportunities.
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 08:47:03 AM
then again i think we're all morons and are spoiled as intercourse
always want more and can't be happy with what we have
but that's the american way.
i mean yes, there are currently problems in our economy and government
but when this is resolved there will be new problems and people still won't have enough
people didn't have enough when i was 6
people don't have enough now
so all in all i really don't give a poop. politics are corrupt and retarded. the people are spoiled and retarded. if these average people were given a spot in power they'd turn into what they hated and nothing would improve.
let's all go live in india or some poop
Part of the human condition is to be dissatisfied with the present, so you're right in that regard. I still fail to understand this whole generalization that all individuals participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement are somehow intellectually incompetent and self-destructive.
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 08:38:50 AM
i can agree with this
tbh most of the people that have been "looking for jobs" for the past <insert time value here> are just lazy, picky, and aren't really trying
sure, it doesn't apply to everyone, but there are jobs. if you need one you can get one. if you're really that desperate you can go into construction, there are tons of jobs there. a little manual labor won't kill you.
also notice how everyone has like 2-4 kids
kids are expensive as intercourse , need to think about how you'll support them before popping them out. one usually works fine, but more than that is a major dent in your economic standing. 4 is a huge dent.
I'm not even getting into this one.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 10:37:12 AM
Because all people are given the same opportunities.
n_gger did I say that
no I didn't
going to an out of state college and racking up student loans for a major that doesn't have many job offerings instead of going to a local college and minimizing on living expenses isn't the government's fault, it's yours.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
Part of the human condition is to be dissatisfied with the present, so you're right in that regard. I still fail to understand this whole generalization that all individuals participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement are somehow intellectually incompetent and self-destructive.
i didn't say that
i said all of america is intellectually incompetent
also, i don't really have much respect for the OWS movement as they didn't even half a definite goal until they got big
i just think there are better ways and ideas for protests and that this one isn't going to do much
if they have such great ideas for change they should do an occupy congress
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 10:47:13 AM
n_gger did I say that
no I didn't
going to an out of state college and racking up student loans for a major that doesn't have many job offerings instead of going to a local college and minimizing on living expenses isn't the government's fault, it's yours.
If you're implying that most of the cases outlined in this thread are self-inflicted, then you most definitely are implying that personal economic failure rests solely with the effected individuals in this case. In other words, people have no one to blame for their own personal standings than their own incompetency; the market remains inherently equal.
Also, the case you outlined represents only a small part of the problem effecting Occupy Wall Street protestors. I agree with you in the fact that, given the state of the economy, one must choose a career path that will best support their economic and social well-being. Even so, the fact that American society disenfranchises those seeking higher education in certain fields remains completely unwarranted.
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 10:54:42 AM
i didn't say that
i said all of america is intellectually incompetent
also, i don't really have much respect for the OWS movement as they didn't even half a definite goal until they got big
i just think there are better ways and ideas for protests and that this one isn't going to do much
if they have such great ideas for change they should do an occupy congress
If I recall correctly, the Occupy Wall Street movement began out of general frustration over the wealth displacement in this nation, and the extension of Bush-era tax cuts under President Obama.
Now it has grown into a movement protesting inequality within American society as a whole which, although it doesn't present a coherent goal, it continues to capture national and international attention.
My biggest complaint with a vast majority of the Occupy Wall Street protestors is that they are turning to the institution that intercourse ed them over in the first place for economic salvation.
Fuck ninnyes, get money.
Quote from: Riddler21 on October 12, 2011, 12:02:07 AM
Some of this poop is actually touching.
Though I don't appreciate the little kid/high schooler ones.
But you'll understand more when you're a little older, Bear.
These stories are either unfortunate events or stupid college kids.
Quote from: Doodle on October 12, 2011, 01:58:07 PM
These stories are either unfortunate events or stupid college kids.
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 08:38:50 AM
i can agree with this
tbh most of the people that have been "looking for jobs" for the past <insert time value here> are just lazy, picky, and aren't really trying
sure, it doesn't apply to everyone, but there are jobs. if you need one you can get one. if you're really that desperate you can go into construction, there are tons of jobs there. a little manual labor won't kill you.
also notice how everyone has like 2-4 kids
kids are expensive as intercourse , need to think about how you'll support them before popping them out. one usually works fine, but more than that is a major dent in your economic standing. 4 is a huge dent.
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 08:16:33 AM
condescension
i know full well how the economy works, and I know that most of these cases are self inflicted with the occasional sob story.
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx39u6xAh1r25y9yo1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx8j0uCnH1r25y9yo1_500.jpg)
WOW LOOK AT THOSE LAZY PEOPLE JESUS CHRIST WELFARE ALERT.
because these people wouldn't lie to make their situation seem worse or to make it look like it's not their fault they're not being hired
>over 90 jobs IN MY FIELD (probably being picky as intercourse also it was probably more like 5 applications)
>1 interview
>GAVE UP
>i do porn now (instead of intercourse ing trying to get a job at 7/11)
yes, that's the indication of a loser if i've ever seen one
i like how you guys jump on PY like he's the devil for making up opinionated statistics but you can believe everything these people throw at you
jesus christ
also, vet bills
pets are the same as kids, just a little less expensive
wasn't jumping on PY like he was the devil, lol
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these folks were lying
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
If you're implying that most of the cases outlined in this thread are self-inflicted, then you most definitely are implying that personal economic failure rests solely with the effected individuals in this case. In other words, people have no one to blame for their own personal standings than their own incompetency; the market remains inherently equal.
Also, the case you outlined represents only a small part of the problem effecting Occupy Wall Street protestors. I agree with you in the fact that, given the state of the economy, one must choose a career path that will best support their economic and social well-being. Even so, the fact that American society disenfranchises those seeking higher education in certain fields remains completely unwarranted.
no, it's not. stop misquoting me, you're starting to get annoying.
at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet. Yes, this means that sometimes you can't splurge on yourself as much as you thought you would when you were younger. yes, this also means that you need to be smart with credit and making sure that you don't end up in debt.
the economy is in the poopter, but that's obvious. it's like saying the weather and a little insulting that you think I'd deny something so blatant. furthermore, it's not as though it's unusual for an economy to be cyclical. you have your rises and your falls, i.e. roaring twenties into the thirties. it's not as though this depression is exceedingly unusual, though it's still bad. the problem is that the intercourse wits have the right idea in regards to wanting income taxation and making sure to avoid the fallacy of a trickle down theory, but they're using such erroneous and self-satisfying logic that I can't take them seriously.
lastly, I didn't say that 100% of the stories were self inflicted. in fact, if you read my post, you'll see that I said "
most are self inflicted with the occasional sob story". stark difference. secondly, i'll just address the issue of "blah blah blah my life sucks since a buncha poop happened my mom got cancer and I have lymphoma nd I've had it rough blah blah blah". yes, that's kind of sad. are you in the majority though? no. poop happens. life isn't fair. do we always get what we want? No, and you should know better than to expect that. people who can't temper their desires and think pragmatically suffer the fate of their own mistakes, but people who've had bad luck just had bad luck. we, as a society, can't prevent that. it's absurd to try and blame your bad luck on society, though not as bad to blame your own mistakes on society. I get that it's sad, but it's not really justifiable to me.
oh and
QuoteEven so, the fact that American society disenfranchises those seeking higher education in certain fields remains completely unwarranted.
that's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. people aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. is it bad? yes. am I supporting it? no.
if you respond to this try responding to what I said.
Quote from: Zero on October 12, 2011, 03:13:38 PM
wasn't jumping on PY like he was the devil, lol
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these folks were lying
i was talking more about alex who is getting very upset about this lol
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 03:15:16 PM
i was talking more about alex who is getting very upset about this lol
There is some truth to how intercourse ed up the stock market is. I'm not going to pretend like I know everything about it though.
I have some stocks that aren't really seeing any growth, that's just how the cookie crumbles. Thanks IBC!
Quote from: Zero on October 12, 2011, 03:16:43 PM
There is some truth to how intercourse ed up the stock market is. I'm not going to pretend like I know everything about it though.
well yeah, it's intercourse ed up
i'm just saying that a lot of people are doing a lot of complaining and not much doing
in terms of the economy
i mean protesting is doing something
just it's not a solution of some kind as there really aren't easy solutions to the problems we're facing
Quote from: Riddler21 on October 12, 2011, 02:38:42 PM
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i'll just point out the problems with both of those
1:
- pfffthahahahah comp science degree with web design. what the intercourse did she expect, a job at microsoft? problem is you have to be exceedingly good at what you do to even get a high paying job for that, no less a job in general. she missed the opportunity for it and now most of the jobs in that area are taken and you can't get a decent backup job with that set of degrees anyway. too specific really. edit: just noticed the operations management. whoooo, that changes every thing don't it.
- what the intercourse do languages have to do with not being able to get a job
- does she mean like "your face is so ugly I wouldn't shove my dick in it" burn or just like "ow my arm :(" burn? if it's the latter, she either signed up for a job that involved getting burned, so no sympathy, or she isn't smart enough to contact her human resources rep, so no sympathy. I don't feel bad for the choices you knowingly make.
- oh that sucks
2:
- jobs don't care about top 10%, only colleges do. jobs care about experience and qualifications, if we're arguing technical aspects. stop waving your dick, which a bunch of these posts love to do. I'M SO GREAT AND I'M UNEMPLOYED WTF????
- wow you must've bombed the interview or something if you were top 10%. more importantly, what field are you in if you got 90 offerings and intercourse ed up all of them? that's very good for this economy.
- "got a food service job, cried a lot" there's your intercourse ing problem. you were just picky and were "above" getting a job at a local food place or even mcdonald's until after you were homeless for a year. you're never too good to get paid and eat food, it's your own fault you didn't realize that sooner.
- 6,000 dollars on education? yeah that took you really far the first time amirite? more importantly, if you were homeless for a year, where the intercourse did 6k come from? why didn't you save it for something that would benefit you more int he short term if you're homeless what the intercourse
- oh no I do porn willingly that's wall street's fault :(
- good for you. what's the problem with your life then?
- oh for intercourse 's sake. first you ninny about not having a job that uses your credentials, but then when you have a job that does that, you ninny about how much things cost in life. that's just life you idiot. sorry you couldn't afford to buy that kreayshawn halloween bling outfit without declaring bankruptcy, that's just how it goes. be grateful you got that job.
- "vet bills" for someone who got 99th on the GRE, you're not very smart. if you can hardly afford for your own standard of living, what makes you think getting another mouth to feed and care for is a good idea?
- "car keeps breaking" yeah wall street's fault. intercourse ing jews and their pot holes and bad luck wizardry i hope they die.
- I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS :( that's what life is. no one asks for bad things in their lives you dumbass.
i'm a little mad now
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 03:14:07 PM
no, it's not. stop misquoting me, you're starting to get annoying.
at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet. Yes, this means that sometimes you can't splurge on yourself as much as you thought you would when you were younger. yes, this also means that you need to be smart with credit and making sure that you don't end up in debt.
the economy is in the poopter, but that's obvious. it's like saying the weather and a little insulting that you think I'd deny something so blatant. furthermore, it's not as though it's unusual for an economy to be cyclical. you have your rises and your falls, i.e. roaring twenties into the thirties. it's not as though this depression is exceedingly unusual, though it's still bad. the problem is that the intercourse wits have the right idea in regards to wanting income taxation and making sure to avoid the fallacy of a trickle down theory, but they're using such erroneous and self-satisfying logic that I can't take them seriously.
lastly, I didn't say that 100% of the stories were self inflicted. in fact, if you read my post, you'll see that I said "most are self inflicted with the occasional sob story". stark difference. secondly, i'll just address the issue of "blah blah blah my life sucks since a buncha poop happened my mom got cancer and I have lymphoma nd I've had it rough blah blah blah". yes, that's kind of sad. are you in the majority though? no. poop happens. life isn't fair. do we always get what we want? No, and you should know better than to expect that. people who can't temper their desires and think pragmatically suffer the fate of their own mistakes, but people who've had bad luck just had bad luck. we, as a society, can't prevent that. it's absurd to try and blame your bad luck on society, though not as bad to blame your own mistakes on society. I get that it's sad, but it's not really justifiable to me.
oh and
that's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. people aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. is it bad? yes. am I supporting it? no.
if you respond to this try responding to what I said.
>I misquoted you
>Mostly support what I said about your statement
"at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet."
Yes, I agree with this statement for the most part, but the problem STILL is that, after four decades of poor economic policy, the middle and lower classes remain in a state that's far less than adequate.
Also, you write about how it's simply too bad that there exists a respectably sized group who simply cannot support themselves for a variety of reasons, and yet you still contend that it's up to them to support themselves. (Paragraphs 1 & 3)[I'm not misquoting you; you state "on your shoulders," which conveys personal responsibility]. Here's the thing: yes, you are right in that there is only so much the federal government, or state governments for that matter, can do. Of course, we do have specific programs in place to help these individuals, but we both know how well those programs are going. (PARTLY due to the fact that the federal government borrows from these institutions:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html?_r=1&oref=slogin [Borrowing from a 2 trillion dollar social security SURPLUS in 2006]).
However, if these individuals remain unable to support themselves given the totality of this situation and current economic polices in effect, then basically what is being conveyed is a system that will continue to do nothing but perpetuate unemployment and economic malfeasance. That's not attempting to reverse a problem, it's just turning away from it.
Furthermore, in regards to your statement on education: "That's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. People aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. Is it bad? Yes. Am I supporting it? No."
That's not attempting to reverse a problem, that's just accepting it as something ("That's life kid") that cannot be fixed.
(I truly hope I haven't misquoted anything that you have said, but given the context of the statements, I maintain my position).
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 03:06:29 PM
because these people wouldn't lie to make their situation seem worse or to make it look like it's not their fault they're not being hired
>over 90 jobs IN MY FIELD (probably being picky as intercourse also it was probably more like 5 applications)
>1 interview
>GAVE UP
>i do porn now (instead of intercourse ing trying to get a job at 7/11)
yes, that's the indication of a loser if i've ever seen one
i like how you guys jump on PY like he's the devil for making up opinionated statistics but you can believe everything these people throw at you
jesus christ
also, vet bills
pets are the same as kids, just a little less expensive
How's your job search going?
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 03:54:39 PM
How's your job search going?
great argument alex
10/10
too bad i'm not a big loser like these people
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 03:57:23 PM
great argument alex
10/10
too bad i'm not a big loser like these people
But if you know exactly what these people are doing wrong, one would expect results from the person who knows how to do it right.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
But if you know exactly what these people are doing wrong, one would expect results from the person who knows how to do it right.
i know giving up a job search after a year, going into porn, and complaining about it to the internet isn't the solution
i don't currently need a job, these people do
what the hell did you learn in speech and debate jesus that was awful/10
guys, we live in a society where someone like raywilliamjohnson can make a living off of stealing funny videos on the internet and support himself while traveling the world
it's not too awful
we have it great here
Quote from: Custom on October 12, 2011, 04:00:35 PM
i know giving up a job search after a year, going into porn, and complaining about it to the internet isn't the solution
i don't currently need a job, these people do
All that I'm trying to say is that if you don't truly understand the situations these people are in, and if you haven't encountered such a situation yourself, then don't criticize them.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 04:05:53 PM
All that I'm trying to say is that if you don't truly understand the situations these people are in, and if you haven't encountered such a situation yourself, then don't criticize them.
but see
i've watched people lose their jobs, get into these situations, and get out in get a new job that they have to work harder at but can still maintain their lifestyle within a week
i've also watched people loser their jobs, sit there for a year, and complain about it
these people are the complaining type
ITT we all post 3-5 times in a row about stuff no one ever agrees on because that will totally end well
Quote from: Riddler21 on October 12, 2011, 02:38:42 PM
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http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsx8j0uCnH1r25y9yo1_500.jpg
Everyone else already made the points, but what the hell
Posting the same images we're criticizing is sure going to do something
lol nsfcd people being political
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 05:08:40 PM
lol nsfcd people being political
shut the intercourse up you mongoloid reject of human thought
coaster I'll get to your post later today
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 05:30:40 PM
shut the intercourse up you mongoloid reject of human thought
coaster I'll get to your post later today
For sure. (Also, I do agree with a decent amount of what you have to say.)
i love how silver locks a handful of brilliant threads but not this burning piece of poop.
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 05:57:29 PM
i love how silver locks a handful of brilliant threads but not this burning piece of poop.
Probably because something of legitimate concern is being discussed in this thread.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 05:58:26 PM
Probably because something of legitimate concern is being discussed in this thread.
well it could have been until you guys all pretty much ruined it like you ruin anything
but it's okay, you can't discuss these things successfully on an internet gaming forum.
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 06:01:32 PM
well it could have been until you guys all pretty much ruined it like you ruin anything
but it's okay, you can't discuss these things successfully on an internet gaming forum.
How did we ruin it?
I dunno, there were some really good points brought up in this discussion.
clearly not enough pokemon hentai to be a seriously cool topic
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 06:14:57 PM
clearly not enough pokemon hentai to be a seriously cool topic
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 06:03:06 PM
How did we ruin it?
I dunno, there were some really good points brought up in this discussion.
Some.
Some.
intercourse kayo your quota of "good points" is really high how can we match it
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 06:24:28 PM
intercourse kayo your quota of "good points" is really high how can we match it
While I respect your opinion, the plight of the common Pokemon cannot go unnoticed.
char char
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 06:14:57 PM
clearly not enough pokemon hentai to be a seriously cool topic
I have opinions, too. Here are some, related to some comments already made:
I'm one of those people with the degree looking at an absolutely abismal job market. Yes, I have a job now, and am supporting my family. But the job I do now is not in my degree field. Not everyone can do construction (although you better intercourse ing believe I have applied for construction jobs). Even manual labor is going tits up right now. Every job market is flooded with overqualified applicants.
Here's the joke: Companies REALLY don't want to hire college graduates for a lot of these jobs; they are afraid that someone who is overqualified will drop the position the minute something better comes along, and they don't want to waste money hiring and training people they think they might lose too soon.
And it hasn't been this bad for that long. When I went into college a ton of fields were wide open. Then mutual and hedge fund bankers start playing fast and loose, banks start doling out toxic loans, and the whole intercourse ing thing starts to fall apart. The market floods with qualified, trained individuals from a variety of different companies that didn't make it out of the crash, and now you've got them applying for the same jobs fresh graduates are after. Meanwhile, Johhny Hedgefund And Dick Toxic get bailed out and retain multi-million dollar bonuses. AND they end up paying less taxes than your average janitor thanks to numerous loopholes.
Custom, I know where you're coming from. We do have it better than some countries. But it's not good enough right now. If this slide continues, we will lose the middle class all together and we'll be just like some of those third world countries we sniff at now. We'll have a rich as intercourse 1% ruling class and everyone else holding on for dear life and getting the intercourse ing poop taxed out of them. And every time they get riled up, some rich poop hole will bring up gay marriage or flag burning to keep them distracted and in line.
Is this occupy movement worth anything? I don't know. The problem doesn't really lie with wallstreet anymore. It lies with our own leaders, the ones who allow this kind of poop to go on. And I see these rallys and wonder if these people have put any more thought into what they're really after than tea partiers have. Yeah, things need to change. But what, and how? Wallstreet needs to be less greedy? That's not going to happen. It's their job to make money. We need to look at tax law and industry regulation if we really want to get anywhere. And that dude in the Guy Fawks mask holding a 99% sign really doesn't seem to be communicating that. Nor does that retard jumping in at the end of the live shot to flip of the camera give the movement any kind of credibility.
BUT
Those dumb as brick Tea Partiers sure have made an actuall movement in Republican politics, just because there are a lot of votes to be had. If Occupy can manage to outline even a couple of goals and get some Democrats to run those issues, it might be worth something.
Quote from: BOREDFANBOY on October 12, 2011, 07:58:40 PM
I have opinions, too. Here are some, related to some comments already made:
I'm one of those people with the degree looking at an absolutely abismal job market. Yes, I have a job now, and am supporting my family. But the job I do now is not in my degree field. Not everyone can do construction (although you better intercourse ing believe I have applied for construction jobs). Even manual labor is going tits up right now. Every job market is flooded with overqualified applicants.
Here's the joke: Companies REALLY don't want to hire college graduates for a lot of these jobs; they are afraid that someone who is overqualified will drop the position the minute something better comes along, and they don't want to waste money hiring and training people they think they might lose too soon.
And it hasn't been this bad for that long. When I went into college a ton of fields were wide open. Then mutual and hedge fund bankers start playing fast and loose, banks start doling out toxic loans, and the whole intercourse ing thing starts to fall apart. The market floods with qualified, trained individuals from a variety of different companies that didn't make it out of the crash, and now you've got them applying for the same jobs fresh graduates are after. Meanwhile, Johhny Hedgefund And Dick Toxic get bailed out and retain multi-million dollar bonuses. AND they end up paying less taxes than your average janitor thanks to numerous loopholes.
Custom, I know where you're coming from. We do have it better than some countries. But it's not good enough right now. If this slide continues, we will lose the middle class all together and we'll be just like some of those third world countries we sniff at now. We'll have a rich as intercourse 1% ruling class and everyone else holding on for dear life and getting the intercourse ing poop taxed out of them. And every time they get riled up, some rich poop hole will bring up gay marriage or flag burning to keep them distracted and in line.
Is this occupy movement worth anything? I don't know. The problem doesn't really lie with wallstreet anymore. It lies with our own leaders, the ones who allow this kind of poop to go on. And I see these rallys and wonder if these people have put any more thought into what they're really after than tea partiers have. Yeah, things need to change. But what, and how? Wallstreet needs to be less greedy? That's not going to happen. It's their job to make money. We need to look at tax law and industry regulation if we really want to get anywhere. And that dude in the Guy Fawks mask holding a 99% sign really doesn't seem to be communicating that. Nor does that retard jumping in at the end of the live shot to flip of the camera give the movement any kind of credibility.
BUT
Those dumb as brick Tea Partiers sure have made an actuall movement in Republican politics, just because there are a lot of votes to be had. If Occupy can manage to outline even a couple of goals and get some Democrats to run those issues, it might be worth something.
Actually contribute something once in a while instead of quoting other people's posts.
That first thing you said, BFB, is an interesting take on it that I frankly never thought of before.
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
Actually contribute something once in a while instead of quoting other people's posts.
That first thing you said, BFB, is an interesting take on it that I frankly never thought of before.
Shut the intercourse up, Kayo. I contributed more to this thread than you do to this board in a year.
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
Actually contribute something once in a while instead of quoting other people's posts.
That first thing you said, BFB, is an interesting take on it that I frankly never thought of before.
Jesus Christ Kayo, you ran this thread down. If this forum has karma i would give you a NEGATIVE VOTE
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
Shut the intercourse up, Kayo. I contributed more to this thread than you do to this board in a year.
something about this made me laugh so much
okay i'll repsond to you post
Kayo i suggest you read through the thread a bit more.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
"at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet."
Yes, I agree with this statement for the most part, but the problem STILL is that, after four decades of poor economic policy, the middle and lower classes remain in a state that's far less than adequate.
yeah, the problem lies in that no one's willing to admit how incredibly stupid the trickle down theory is and that reaganomics royally buttintercourse ed us for a good while. the system definitely needs to be arranged in a way that isn't completely idiotic and favoring of the high class, it's sending us down the poopter.
QuoteAlso, you write about how it's simply too bad that there exists a respectably sized group who simply cannot support themselves for a variety of reasons, and yet you still contend that it's up to them to support themselves. (Paragraphs 1 & 3)[I'm not misquoting you; you state "on your shoulders," which conveys personal responsibility]. Here's the thing: yes, you are right in that there is only so much the federal government, or state governments for that matter, can do. Of course, we do have specific programs in place to help these individuals, but we both know how well those programs are going. (PARTLY due to the fact that the federal government borrows from these institutions:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html?_r=1&oref=slogin [Borrowing from a 2 trillion dollar social security SURPLUS in 2006]).
However, if these individuals remain unable to support themselves given the totality of this situation and current economic polices in effect, then basically what is being conveyed is a system that will continue to do nothing but perpetuate unemployment and economic malfeasance. That's not attempting to reverse a problem, it's just turning away from it.
no I agree, and as I've said, occupy wallstreet has the right idea for the wrong reasons. I'm overall glad that people are finally getting mad off enough to do something about it, but it honestly annoys the poop out of me when they parade their stories around like it's the saddest story since African child number twenty three. I do want this to do well, if I haven't shown that yet, and I would like for this to change some minds of conservatives who stand by the methods of governing that've sent us into the poopter.
QuoteFurthermore, in regards to your statement on education: "That's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. People aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. Is it bad? Yes. Am I supporting it? No."
That's not attempting to reverse a problem, that's just accepting it as something ("That's life kid") that cannot be fixed.
I should probably clarify then. I do want education to be reformed and for NCLB to get the intercourse out of this state government because it's really chomping down on TEST SCORES TEST SCORES TEST SCORES and not enough on actual learning, just passive memorization a la
Brave New World. as of now though, it's not something that could reasonably be fixed by the time a young adult is in college for it to significantly impact their education, or even within my education years, most likely. I don't wanna come off as "intercourse it it's in god's hands" or anything, but it's kind of just something we can't fix for now, more in the future territory.
that and student loans will be eternal if there's really a god because he intercourse ing hates us lol
Quote(I truly hope I haven't misquoted anything that you have said, but given the context of the statements, I maintain my position).
nah you're fine now.
Whoever can form a policy adequate enough to resolve even half of these problems deserves a intercourse ing Nobel Prize.
Quote from: Kayo on October 12, 2011, 08:13:19 PM
Actually contribute something once in a while instead of quoting other people's posts.
That first thing you said, BFB, is an interesting take on it that I frankly never thought of before.
Here's the thing. You don't think.
If this devolves into a poopstorm, I'll be mad. Just saying.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 12, 2011, 09:08:23 PM
Whoever can form a policy adequate enough to resolve even half of these problems deserves a intercourse ing Nobel Prize.
pretty much
Quote from: Zero on October 12, 2011, 09:02:27 PM
Kayo i suggest you read through the thread a bit more.
I actually don't really want to, lol. I don't give a rat's ass about what's going on here. It's just Custom and that Alex kid arguing about stuff that they can't do anything about.
In fact, I'm talking out my anus.
Quote from: Zero on October 11, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
Any sources for these statistics? Curious.
No source. General half-sarcastic observations. Never stated that they were truthful, but I am earnestly glad that you asked.
Quote from: Bearissoslow
and I would like for this to change some minds of conservatives who stand by the methods of governing that've sent us into the poopter.
Just conservatives? Both Team Red and Team Blue are complicit in the current state of affairs.
Quote from: IhsoyOhcysp on October 12, 2011, 09:54:42 PM
Just conservatives? Both Team Red and Team Blue are complicit in the current state of affairs.
it was in context of the trickle down theory
i'm glad you learned the advantages to quoting someone out of context and replying to it to make yourself look smart. proud of you, bro.
Quote
yeah, the problem lies in that no one's willing to admit how incredibly stupid the trickle down theory is and that reaganomics royally buttintercourse ed us for a good while. the system definitely needs to be arranged in a way that isn't completely idiotic and favoring of the high class, it's sending us down the poopter...
...and as I've said, occupy wallstreet has the right idea for the wrong reasons. I'm overall glad that people are finally getting mad off enough to do something about it, but it honestly annoys the poop out of me when they parade their stories around like it's the saddest story since African child number twenty three. I do want this to do well, if I haven't shown that yet, and I would like for this to change some minds of conservatives who stand by the methods of governing that've sent us into the poopter.
I don't think that it's out of context, seeing that your idea re: trickle down would have still made sense without the italicized clause. I am not trying to turn this into a debate over whose pet political philosophy is smarter or whatever, we'll be here all day. I was merely stating that I think that you're too quick to pin all of the blame on Reagan/conservatives et. al.
And thank you for immediately assuming bad faith about my intentions. Bro.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 12, 2011, 09:11:27 PM
If this devolves into a poopstorm, I'll be mad. Just saying.
the thread or the event
if that's all you're trying to say then word it better and more efficiently next time.
and to respond to that, yes, I am, because the TDT is intercourse ing stupid and has examples of it not working, yet people still advocating it and such.
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 12, 2011, 10:14:54 PM
if that's all you're trying to say then word it better and more efficiently next time.
and to respond to that, yes, I am, because the TDT is intercourse ing stupid and has examples of it not working, yet people still advocating it and such.
IT'S CLASS WARFARE TO REINSTATE 90s ERA TAXES ON THE RICH, YOU SOCIALIST. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 12, 2011, 10:42:32 PM
Thread.
I think that, for the most part, we avoided a poopstorm. If anything, it's Kayo's fault.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 13, 2011, 05:51:21 AM
IT'S CLASS WARFARE TO REINSTATE 90s ERA TAXES ON THE RICH, YOU SOCIALIST. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
oh noooooooo i'm a socialist yeah you got me
except I'm not
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 13, 2011, 07:04:40 AM
oh noooooooo i'm a socialist yeah you got me
except I'm not
I'm Senator McCarthy, motherintercourse er. I know a commie when I see one.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 13, 2011, 05:51:54 AM
I think that, for the most part, we avoided a poopstorm. If anything, it's Kayo's fault.
It almost makes me want to bring back Serious Discussion.
Almost.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 13, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
It almost makes me want to bring back Serious Discussion.
Almost.
Every thread:
3 posts Coaster
3 posts Custom
3 posts Bear
One post someone else
Repeat
Quote from: Kayo on October 13, 2011, 11:50:35 AM
Every thread:
3 posts Coaster
3 posts Custom
3 posts Bear
One post someone else
Repeat
I appreciate the accuracy of your not including your name on this list. Clearly you are beginning to understand what a Pokemon thread is and isn't.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on October 13, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
It almost makes me want to bring back Serious Discussion.
Almost.
It's like we're going at each other
It's a mostly civil debate
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 13, 2011, 02:06:44 PM
I appreciate the accuracy of your not including your name on this list. Clearly you are beginning to understand what a Pokemon thread is and isn't.
things like this make me want to suck your dick
I say, good Doodle. Why is your sexual organ hanging aloof from your navel?
Quote from: Kayo on October 13, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
I say, good Doodle. Why is your sexual organ hanging aloof from your navel?
stop trying to hang out with the big boys
it's really hypocritical that you have the audacity to imply that nothing's being discussed in this thread when you're the only faggot posting off topic idiocy.
Quote from: Bearissoslow on October 13, 2011, 03:09:26 PM
things like this make me want to suck your dick
I'm flattered.
itt we have off-topic arguments about arguing off-topic
Quote from: Kayo on October 13, 2011, 04:12:21 PM
itt we have off-topic arguments about arguing off-topic
Share your intercourse ing opinion about OccupyWallStreet or just get the intercourse up. There are a solid 5 pages of legitimate discussion on the subject, none of which is a contribution on your end. I've contributed plenty.
Quote from: Kayo on October 13, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
I say, good Doodle. Why is your sexual organ hanging aloof from your navel?
Stop poopting on my thread. It's poop like this that makes having an SD board here out of the question.
It's a simple request Kayo. Contribute or ignore the thread.
Now they're here in Toronto, gosh darnit.
I don't know what to think of this. I'm all for protesting but the only thing they seem to be accomplishing is reminding everybody how utterly intercourse ed we are. Thanks, tips.
Quote from: Ravioli on October 15, 2011, 01:17:57 PM
Now they're here in Toronto, gosh darnit.
I don't know what to think of this. I'm all for protesting but the only thing they seem to be accomplishing is reminding everybody how utterly intercourse ed we are. Thanks, tips.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/occupy-goes-global/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 16, 2011, 06:07:44 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/occupy-goes-global/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Switzerland has cooler masks
Quote from: Custom on October 16, 2011, 10:34:22 AM
Switzerland has cooler masks
There were a million people with Guy Fawkes' masks at OccupyDC.
Quote from: CoasterKid93 on October 16, 2011, 01:07:56 PM
There were a million people with Guy Fawkes' masks at OccupyDC.
what a bunch of iDiOtz
Quote from: Custom on October 16, 2011, 04:23:42 PM
what a bunch of iDiOtz
Well, those iDiOtz started an international movement. It will be interesting to see where it goes from here.
its even in my home town holy poop
http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-10-15/Occupy-Fort-Myers-protesters-march-the-streets
Quote from: Zero on October 16, 2011, 09:16:58 PM
its even in my home town holy poop
http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-10-15/Occupy-Fort-Myers-protesters-march-the-streets
First Canada, now Florida? What the intercourse , there's no telling where it will pop up next.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/17/occupy-movement-goes-global-as-a-symbol-of-shared-economic-frustration/
This is a really interesting article on the movement. Take a gander, children.
Yeah, worldwide. I also heard it was in Berlin and Hong Kong in addition to Rome, Paris, Oslo, Coppenhagen, etc.
From what I hear it's especially violent in Rome. Those silly Italians, always getting physical.
Oh boy, here comes Karl Marx's idea of the fall of capitalism. a movement like this isnt gonna stop corperate greed, the only possible way that would happen is a boycott against the corperations, then again, thats not possible because then if one major corperation is boycotted that is a big asset to the economy, we will be digging our own hole by our economic system plummeting. The whole bank bailout situation, that was put together "expecting" the bailout the banks were given would be put back into the economy by spending, NOT saving and stashing it away, that just made it worse. Timothy Geithner had the right idea, but corperations aren't really doing what was expected to be done. That whole bailout originated from one of THE biggest free market opinionated economists in history, Milton Friedman, and some of Geithner's views are based off of him. Friedman hated inflation, and this plan of his was to print money, bailout the banks, causing the bill to inflate, "expecting" them to spend it back into the economy, therefore, a jumpstart then to draw that amount printed back out slowly to deflate the bill. Saving the money just inflated the bill.