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Title: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: JMV on October 20, 2007, 02:25:30 PM
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QuoteIt is not the cartoons that make your kids smack playmates or violently grab their toys but, rather, a lack of social skills, according to new research.
"It's a natural behavior and it's surprising that the idea that children and adolescents learn aggression from the media is still relevant," says Richard Tremblay, a professor of pediatrics, psychiatry and psychology at the University of Montreal, who has spent more than two decades tracking 35,000 Canadian children (from age five months through their 20s) in search of the roots of physical aggression. "Clearly youth were violent before television appeared."
Tremblay's previous results have suggested that children on average reach a peak of violent behavior (biting, scratching, screaming, hitting...) around 18 months of age. The level of aggression begins to taper between the ages of two and five as they begin to learn other, more sophisticated ways of communicating their needs and wants.
Tremblay on Wednesday is set to present preliminary study results showing a genetic signature consistent with chronic violent behavior at a meeting of The Royal Society, the U.K.'s academy of science, in London.

"We're looking at to what extent the chronically aggressive individuals show differences in terms of gene expressions compared to those on the normal trajectory," he told ScientificAmerican.com. "The individuals that are chronically aggressive have...more genes that are not expressed." The fact that a gene can be silenced or the level of protein it encodes reduced, he added, "is an indication that the problem is at a very basic level."

When children first begin to poke, prod and even slap, parents, teachers and siblings often react by indicating that those behaviors are inappropriate. But, citing studies done in animals, Tremblay notes that an unfit environment beginning in the womb may affect a child's ability to learn this lesson in the first place. And he plans to extend his genetic studies to include expectant mothers to determine if their behavior during pregnancy is linked to the down tuning of genes that may be associated with chronic aggression.

"In the long studies we've been doing, we've measured a number of characteristics during pregnancy and after birth that are good predictors'' of chronic aggression in children, Tremblay notes. Possible factors that might influence neurobiological development of the fetus, he says, include smoking, drinking, poor nutrition and excessive stress.

Tremblay speculates that genes play a significant role: for instance damaged genes may make it hard for children to acquire language, frustrating them and making them prone to violence, among other means of making themselves heard. "When you don't master language," Tremblay says, "it's hard to get people to understand what you want."

Kate Keenan, an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Chicago, views this new genetic analysis as the logical next step in Tremblay's long-term exploration into childhood aggression. She believes Tremblay's work may help uncover genetic profiles distinct to chronically aggressive children that may allow researchers to answer questions like, "Can we differentiate [between these kids] even earlier?" [and] "How early can you intervene?"
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Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Mystic on October 20, 2007, 02:28:34 PM
Violent kids are the result of poopty movies.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
Violence is caused by murder simulators, like GTA and rap music, idiot. :|
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: blue_slime on October 20, 2007, 02:30:09 PM
parents aren't the only source of childhood development, but okay if you say so. :-X
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 02:32:43 PM
I think I was more violent when I was more social.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: JMV on October 20, 2007, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on October 20, 2007, 02:32:43 PM
I think I was more violent when I was more social.
Yeah, American youth does make me want to kill a few people.


Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Mystic on October 20, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
Violence is caused by murder simulators, like GTA and rap music, idiot. :|
*starts up GTA3 and turns on radio*

May I kill now?

Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 20, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
Violence is caused by murder simulators, like GTA and rap music, idiot. :|
*starts up GTA3 and turns on radio*

May I kill now?


Yes, but be sure to practice a lot before you go on your murderous rampage.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Mystic on October 20, 2007, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.
You just haven't gotten caught.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: NOA_ANDY on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Transient Link on October 20, 2007, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.

LOL he looks like smeargul from lord of the rings lmao!!
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just poop, you don't really need to edit it.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: NOA_ANDY on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just s***, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Totla on October 20, 2007, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just poop, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If it really bugs someone that much that they can't stand to look at a swear word, they shouldn't be on the internet.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopy parents
Post by: Triforceman22 on October 20, 2007, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: MARLUXIA on October 20, 2007, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.

LOL he looks like smeargul from lord of the rings lmao!!

We hates it!
We hates it!

:P
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 03:11:44 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just poop, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If it really bugs someone that much that they can't stand to look at a swear word, they shouldn't be on the internet.
That's not what internet is about though.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Mystic on October 20, 2007, 03:25:48 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just s***, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If you're offended by the word poop, you should be hanged.

And not liking the word and being offended by it are 2 different things.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopy parents
Post by: Cecil_and_Kain on October 20, 2007, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
Violence is caused by murder simulators, like GTA and rap music, idiot. :|
Thank you for that useful input Jack Thompson.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 20, 2007, 03:25:48 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just s***, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If you're offended by the word poop, you should be hanged.

And not liking the word and being offended by it are 2 different things.
Yes but if you are offended by it then you obviously don't like it.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Tsu on October 20, 2007, 03:39:51 PM
New and exciting!
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Mystic on October 20, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on October 20, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 20, 2007, 03:25:48 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just s***, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If you're offended by the word poop, you should be hanged.

And not liking the word and being offended by it are 2 different things.
Yes but if you are offended by it then you obviously don't like it.
Um, duh?
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 04:04:41 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 20, 2007, 04:00:55 PM
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on October 20, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on October 20, 2007, 03:25:48 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
Quote from: Totla on October 20, 2007, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: Gamemaster1379 on October 20, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
Sorry about the edit JMV, but apparently the censors didn't pick up on the title.  :P
It's just s***, you don't really need to edit it.

There are some who find such words offensive, and if the censors don't pick up on it, it's necessary to  manually edit such words.
If you're offended by the word poop, you should be hanged.

And not liking the word and being offended by it are 2 different things.
Yes but if you are offended by it then you obviously don't like it.
Um, duh?
no u
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: LightShock on October 20, 2007, 04:06:47 PM
I blame rap music! :O
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: LightShock on October 20, 2007, 04:06:47 PM
I blame rap music! :O
[Some people out there givin' rap a bad name
Well I'm here to let you know, we ain't down with that]

Rap music, the sound of the times
Ya sorta talk lyrics to rhythm and rhyme
And then deliver in various ways
You know, some sorta preach, and some sorta play
Nevertheless, there's a common ground [word!]
Ya know the def hip hop sound
Hyped up bass with a tiny snare
The subwoofer makes ya neighbor stare
But still

(interlude)
I luv rap music
I always have, and I always will

Now rap started as the voice of the street
A sorta politics to a ghetto beat
Then rappers started braggin' all about their gold
And the girlies, and the beepers
And the big, black Olds-mobile
In '83, the beatbox hit
Makin' funky drum sounds from out ya lips
But takin' on nu forms, rap has moved from the block
Now some mix it with soul and some mix it with rock
Ya know

(chorus)
I luv rap music
I always have, and I always will
There ain't no other kinda music in all the world
That makes me feel quite as chill
I luv rap music
Ya know, it's sittin' on the top of my list
So if ya wanna hang with me, ya better believe
We'll be jammin' to a hip hop mix

Concert time in my part of the town
Ya know, I brought my mom cause I knew she was down
She was flat groovin', but couldn't understand
How they makin' music when there ain't no band
And then she cried, "James," everybody stared
She heard a James Brown sample and thought he was there
She got home, shook her head and said,
"Kids these years"
But then again, we think the Beatles were weird

I luv rap music
I luv rap music
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: LightShock on October 20, 2007, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: LiveOnTheEdge on October 20, 2007, 04:10:05 PM
Quote from: LightShock on October 20, 2007, 04:06:47 PM
I blame rap music! :O
[Some people out there givin' rap a bad name
Well I'm here to let you know, we ain't down with that]

Rap music, the sound of the times
Ya sorta talk lyrics to rhythm and rhyme
And then deliver in various ways
You know, some sorta preach, and some sorta play
Nevertheless, there's a common ground [word!]
Ya know the def hip hop sound
Hyped up bass with a tiny snare
The subwoofer makes ya neighbor stare
But still

(interlude)
I luv rap music
I always have, and I always will

Now rap started as the voice of the street
A sorta politics to a ghetto beat
Then rappers started braggin' all about their gold
And the girlies, and the beepers
And the big, black Olds-mobile
In '83, the beatbox hit
Makin' funky drum sounds from out ya lips
But takin' on nu forms, rap has moved from the block
Now some mix it with soul and some mix it with rock
Ya know

(chorus)
I luv rap music
I always have, and I always will
There ain't no other kinda music in all the world
That makes me feel quite as chill
I luv rap music
Ya know, it's sittin' on the top of my list
So if ya wanna hang with me, ya better believe
We'll be jammin' to a hip hop mix

Concert time in my part of the town
Ya know, I brought my mom cause I knew she was down
She was flat groovin', but couldn't understand
How they makin' music when there ain't no band
And then she cried, "James," everybody stared
She heard a James Brown sample and thought he was there
She got home, shook her head and said,
"Kids these years"
But then again, we think the Beatles were weird

I luv rap music
I luv rap music
My accusation stands :)
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: Zovistograt on October 20, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
...LOTE, the fact that the artist insulted the Beatles makes the entire song unfounded.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: on October 20, 2007, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on October 20, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
...LOTE, the fact that the artist insulted the Beatles makes the entire song unfounded.
Pullin out my big black book
Cause when I need a word defined thats where I look
So I move to the ls quick, fast, in a hurry
Threw on my specs, thought my vision was blurry
I looked again but to my dismay
It was black and white with no room for grey
Ya see, a big v stood beyond my word
And yo thats when it hit me, that luv is a verb

(chorus 1)
Words come easy but dont mean much
When the words theyre sayin we cant put trust in
Were talkin bout love in a different light
And if we all learn to love it would be just right

(chorus 2)
Hey, tell me havent ya heard?
Luv, is a serious word
Hey, I think its time ya learned
I dont care what they say
I dont care care what ya heard
The word luv, luv is a verb

Down with the dc talk, d- d- down with the dc talk
Are you down with the dc talk, d- d- down with the dc talk

Thinkin of a way to explain-o
Cause ya know when Im flowin like a bottle of drain-o
Simple and plain, l-o-v-e
Aint all that junk that ya see on tv
Put soaps on a rope cause they aint worth copin with
Its a myth that there aint no hope and
Luv is enough if its unconditionally
Givin now youre living out the great commission
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: phatyo on October 20, 2007, 04:54:08 PM
poopty kids are just idiots and there parents are just poopty us well.
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopy parents
Post by: Transient Link on October 20, 2007, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on October 20, 2007, 03:12:42 PM
Quote from: MARLUXIA on October 20, 2007, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.

LOL he looks like smeargul from lord of the rings lmao!!

We hates it!
We hates it!

:P
thank you for being the only one to notice my post :D
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopty parents
Post by: Tomboh on October 20, 2007, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: MARLUXIA on October 20, 2007, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Riosan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
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RAWR

I sort of agree with the topic. I don't think violent objects like video games cause violent acts. I play games about killing people for fun, but am I in jail for murder? No.

LOL he looks like smeargul from lord of the rings lmao!!
wtf is a smeargul
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of sh**ty parents
Post by: not famy on October 20, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on October 20, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
...LOTE, the fact that the artist insulted the Beatles makes the entire song unfounded.
"We think the Beatles were weird".

Insulting?
Not really. :0)
Title: Re: Violent kids are the result of poopy parents
Post by: TheDarkChief on October 20, 2007, 07:52:14 PM
Wow. I should use this instead of argh;.
VIDEO GAMES DON'T MAKE ME KILL PEOPLE!!!
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Anyways, at least we got people with different reasons why kids are more violent.