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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: Super on November 20, 2007, 04:40:20 PM

Title: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Super on November 20, 2007, 04:40:20 PM
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

The bolded text doesn't make any sense. You cannot have something more than perfect. Something is either perfect, or not perfect. In America's case, we are not even close perfect anyway.


Didn't anyone else notice this?
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Jono2 on November 20, 2007, 04:41:46 PM
it's saying more perfect than something else, not stating that it is either perfect, nor more than perfect.

phail.

but to make this topic worthwhile,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CTe8Pib6syg&feature=related
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: JMV on November 20, 2007, 04:43:14 PM
"More perfect" basically means "closer to perfect."
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Super on November 20, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on November 20, 2007, 04:41:46 PM
it's saying more perfect than something else, not stating that it is either perfect, nor more than perfect.

phail.

but to make this topic worthwhile,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CTe8Pib6syg&feature=related
Perfect is an absolute. One thing can't be more perfect than another.
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Jono2 on November 20, 2007, 04:44:58 PM
look at JMV's post.
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Super on November 20, 2007, 04:47:15 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on November 20, 2007, 04:44:58 PM
look at JMV's post.
I did. :)
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Mystic on November 20, 2007, 06:18:09 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 20, 2007, 04:43:14 PM
"More perfect" basically means "closer to perfect."
:D

US closer to perfect... :D
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Rayquarian on November 20, 2007, 06:23:44 PM
A more perfect union than it was when it was made.
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: metroidhunter777 on November 20, 2007, 06:24:14 PM
Due to the fact that it was replacing the Articles of Confederation, that phrase there was refering to the Articles of Confederation, which means, in short, "in order to create a better nation than under the Articles of Confederation."
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Rius on November 20, 2007, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: SUPERKOOL on November 20, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on November 20, 2007, 04:41:46 PM
it's saying more perfect than something else, not stating that it is either perfect, nor more than perfect.

phail.

but to make this topic worthwhile,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CTe8Pib6syg&feature=related
Perfect is an absolute. One thing can't be more perfect than another.
You can actually. You cannot achieve the absolute, but you can get pretty darn close. Exempli gratias, you have a tennis ball and an egg: which is the more perfect sphere?

Now for chemistry. >:)

The concept of absolute zero is nearly uniformally accepted throughout science. However, nothing has ever been documented to arrive at absolute zero. However, for the past 50 years, efforts have been made to reach this ultimate state of no energy. Results have shown much progress, each trial ending in a product with a temperature closer to absolute zero. Note that absolute zero was never achieved, but we have been getting infintesimally closer.
Title: Re: The first part of the US Constitution has an error.
Post by: Nox on November 20, 2007, 06:32:17 PM
It means they wanted there government to be better then the british.