My first day using advanced techniques!

[Shujinco2]

Today after school was my first time using advanced Techinques.

Rate how I did as a rookie advanced technique user!

Wavedashing: Didn't do so well. Couldn't get the timing down.

Wave Shining: This actually was pretty suscessful! Dodged 3 REALLY powerful attacks with this!

L-Cancling: This went pretty well to, though about half the time I missed the timing and got a faceful of lag.  :-\

Crouch Cancling: Couldn't even do it once! And I tried a LOT of times!

Shield Reflecting: Pulled off a few of them, but most I ended up being hit or just outright dodging them.

Fast Falling: Not much of this. I tried combining it with the L Cancels, but it didn't work out so well. :-\

Short Hopping: I did this most of the time, except for when I accedently didn't and when I needed tnot to.

DIing: None of this at all. :-\

Roll Grabbing: I couldn't seem to pull this one off.

Edgehogging: 17 Kos from edgehogging!

SHFFLing: I just couldn't pull it off. I couldn't even pull it off when I was imagining it! 0_o


So...how did I do?

[Shujinco2]

RATE THEE, OR THOU SHALT BE SMITIN!  >:(

[Dawei]

I'm questioning how you managed to waveshine if you can't even wavedash. A waveshine is a Wavedash>Shine>Wavedash>shine, ect. Also, it's more of an attack than a way to dodge them.

For crouch cancelling, it's good to run, Crouch Cancel, and then D-smash. CCing isn't solely for reducing knock-back.

Shield reflecting is fine, as you don't need to do it a lot. When you are playing someone who is spamming lasers the best thing you can do is run right into them, especially if they aren't shl because of the lag.

Try using fast-falling more, as in Brawl, the way to L-cancel is to Fast Fall before you do your aerial, and it cancels all of the lag instead of just cuts it in half.

Not sure what you meant by roll Grabbing. Grabbing out of a shield?

Great work on the edgehogging. Now you should work on ledge-hopping, incase they still recover. Hit down on the C-stick, jump (as always, easier with x or y), use your fair (forward air, incase you don't know) or bair (back air) using the c-stick, and hold towards the stage with the control stick. It's the safest way to recover from the ledge.

It's hard to rate you. I guess by NSF standards you did quite well. Just the fact that you landed your l-cancels as often as you make it out is pretty good for your first time. You did hit your opponent with the aerials you l-canceled, right?

[Shujinco2]

I'm questioning how you managed to waveshine if you can't even wavedash. A waveshine is a Wavedash>Shine>Wavedash>shine, ect. Also, it's more of an attack than a way to dodge them.

For crouch cancelling, it's good to run, Crouch Cancel, and then D-smash. CCing isn't solely for reducing knock-back.

Shield reflecting is fine, as you don't need to do it a lot. When you are playing someone who is spamming lasers the best thing you can do is run right into them, especially if they aren't shl because of the lag.

Try using fast-falling more, as in Brawl, the way to L-cancel is to Fast Fall before you do your aerial, and it cancels all of the lag instead of just cuts it in half.

Not sure what you meant by roll Grabbing. Grabbing out of a shield?

Great work on the edgehogging. Now you should work on ledge-hopping, incase they still recover. Hit down on the C-stick, jump (as always, easier with x or y), use your fair (forward air, incase you don't know) or bair (back air) using the c-stick, and hold towards the stage with the control stick. It's the safest way to recover from the ledge.

It's hard to rate you. I guess by NSF standards you did quite well. Just the fact that you landed your l-cancels as often as you make it out is pretty good for your first time. You did hit your opponent with the aerials you l-canceled, right?

I considered my Shining good because whenever I wanted to Shine, I usually did it. But I tried Wavedashing a LOT, and most of the time, I ended up air dodging. Basically, I did 65% of my waveshines, but about 10% of my Wave Dashes. :-\

BTW, Roll Grabbing is when you roll to the other side of your opponent and instantly grab them. I don't really know if this is advanced though. :P

And most of the time I DID land my aerials. And the times I didn't, I usually still got them somehow.

[Dawei]

A shine is Fox or Falco's Down-B, nothing else. Please explain to me what your perception of a shine is. It's impossible to have a higher waveshine:wavedash ratio.

Roll-grabbing isn't really a named technique, as it is just rolling and then grabbing. :P A wavedash>grab works great though. Once you get it down, try and replace all of your rolls with Wavedashes.

[Shujinco2]

A shine is Fox or Falco's Down-B, nothing else. Please explain to me what your perception of a shine is. It's impossible to have a higher waveshine:wavedash ratio.

Roll-grabbing isn't really a named technique, as it is just rolling and then grabbing. :P A wavedash>grab works great though. Once you get it down, try and replace all of your rolls with Wavedashes.

0_o

REALLY? That's what a waveshine is?

Well than, I guess I did more Wavedashes than I thought I did! :D

I seriously didn't know that though. :-\

[Dawei]

A shine is Fox or Falco's Down-B, nothing else. Please explain to me what your perception of a shine is. It's impossible to have a higher waveshine:wavedash ratio.

Roll-grabbing isn't really a named technique, as it is just rolling and then grabbing. :P A wavedash>grab works great though. Once you get it down, try and replace all of your rolls with Wavedashes.

0_o

REALLY? That's what a waveshine is?

Well than, I guess I did more Wavedashes than I thought I did! :D

I seriously didn't know that though. :-\

WELL NOW YOU KNOW

If you took waveshining as wavedashing backwards, use that to edgehog, instead of jumping (incase that is what you are doing).

[Shujinco2]

A shine is Fox or Falco's Down-B, nothing else. Please explain to me what your perception of a shine is. It's impossible to have a higher waveshine:wavedash ratio.

Roll-grabbing isn't really a named technique, as it is just rolling and then grabbing. :P A wavedash>grab works great though. Once you get it down, try and replace all of your rolls with Wavedashes.

0_o

REALLY? That's what a waveshine is?

Well than, I guess I did more Wavedashes than I thought I did! :D

I seriously didn't know that though. :-\

WELL NOW YOU KNOW

If you took waveshining as wavedashing backwards, use that to edgehog, instead of jumping (incase that is what you are doing).

Actually, I have some pretty neat methods on edgehogging WITHOUT wavedashin!

With Jigglypuff, I short hop just a TINY bit off the ledge, and use sing to grab the ledge.

With Pikachu/Pichu, I Use Up+B to the EXACT spot I'm supposted to grab the ledge. (Altough, this one is pretty darn hard to get the EXACT right spot. :-\ )

With Kirby, I short hop a little bit off the ledge and use Inhale twords the stage to grab the ledge.

I have more too! ;)

[Dawei]

I've never heard of the Jigglypuff one. Is it to keep yourself safe from physicals attacks?

But still, wavedashing is the fastest way to get to the ledge.

[Eizweir]

I need to learn how to do these before brawl comes out.

[Shujinco2]

I've never heard of the Jigglypuff one. Is it to keep yourself safe from physicals attacks?

But still, wavedashing is the fastest way to get to the ledge.

Actually, that Pikachu/pichu one is VERY fast!

But it's a pain in the butt not to tap the control stick in another direction. It's also hard to hit it right on th nail.

[Dawei]

I've never heard of the Jigglypuff one. Is it to keep yourself safe from physicals attacks?

But still, wavedashing is the fastest way to get to the ledge.

Actually, that Pikachu/pichu one is VERY fast!

But it's a pain in the butt not to tap the control stick in another direction. It's also hard to hit it right on th nail.

If it wasn't so hard to hit it with the quick attack, I would say use that. Not to mention not every character can do it.

[Shujinco2]

I've never heard of the Jigglypuff one. Is it to keep yourself safe from physicals attacks?

But still, wavedashing is the fastest way to get to the ledge.

Actually, that Pikachu/pichu one is VERY fast!

But it's a pain in the butt not to tap the control stick in another direction. It's also hard to hit it right on th nail.

If it wasn't so hard to hit it with the quick attack, I would say use that. Not to mention not every character can do it.

Yeah, I know. Sadly, that's the only good technique I have with Pikachu.

Can't say the same thing about Pichu though! ;)