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further proof that nintendo is going soft. (really old brawl spoilers)

Started by Jono2, January 30, 2008, 09:07:50 PM

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Jono2

Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 04:19:33 PM
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uhh, that's not the issue being discussed.

but you can't say that a game like super mario bros., being this dated, is more fun than, let's say, Gears of War. o_O

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

SteamID: Lazylen

Skye8600

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 04:19:33 PM
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uhh, that's not the issue being discussed.

but you can't say that a game like super mario bros., being this dated, is more fun than, let's say, Gears of War. o_O
well Gears of war is fun, but then you go back and play a classic like Super Mario Bros. and it floods you with that nostalgic feeling and you just have a blast.
it doesnt matter how that game or ingame things look as long as they are fun to use


Neerb

The thing that annoys me most about the "kiddiness" is the fact that Snake only uses explosives, since they're more "cartoony."

I mean seriously:  B= Grenade
                            Side B= Missile Launcher
                            FS= Grenade Launcher
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Jono2

Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 04:19:33 PM
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uhh, that's not the issue being discussed.

but you can't say that a game like super mario bros., being this dated, is more fun than, let's say, Gears of War. o_O
well Gears of war is fun, but then you go back and play a classic like Super Mario Bros. and it floods you with that nostalgic feeling and you just have a blast.
it doesnt matter how that game or ingame things look as long as they are fun to use

yes, but at the same time, new gamers don't get that nostalgic feeling, and they will one day control the industry.

gameplay does trump graphics, but only to a certain extent.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

SteamID: Lazylen

Java

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 31, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: mecha_fang on January 31, 2008, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 31, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
Compared to how the roster was totally screwed over, I'm not sure that detail is important at the moment.
Yeah. Sakurai should change his name to SUCK-urai. GANON SHOULD NOT BE A FREAKING CLONE, YOU MORON. Ugh... Lazy-ass developers...

That reminds me, I don't get why Ness is called a clone WHEN HE WAS THE ORIGINAL.

Quote from: JMV290 on January 30, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
Unless that bomb now shoots out candy instead of exploding I see no problem here.

I was going to say, it still serves its purpose, and at least the guns haven't been changed.


ness was revealed second.  ergo, he's a clone.

Also, rumor has it that sakurai wanted to replace Ness with Lucas ever since SSBM, but he didn't have time to do so.

Ganondorf's lack of an original moveset is the most disappointing.  his B moves are the same, with slightly different animations, except for his side B.
Ness was always in Smash though...

He can't be a clone...

Neerb

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 06:12:27 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
Quote from: Skye8600 on January 31, 2008, 04:19:33 PM
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uhh, that's not the issue being discussed.

but you can't say that a game like super mario bros., being this dated, is more fun than, let's say, Gears of War. o_O
well Gears of war is fun, but then you go back and play a classic like Super Mario Bros. and it floods you with that nostalgic feeling and you just have a blast.
it doesnt matter how that game or ingame things look as long as they are fun to use

yes, but at the same time, new gamers don't get that nostalgic feeling, and they will one day control the industry.

gameplay does trump graphics, but only to a certain extent.

Yeah:  Gameplay always trumps graphics if you're a gamer, but unfortunately, every other person I meet is a moron who says "PS3 ISH BETR KUZ IT HAZ ASUM GRAFIKZ!" or "PSP ISH BETR KUZ IT KAN SERF TEH WEB AND PLAA MUVEEZ AND PLAA MEEYUZIK!"

Seriously guys, if it's graphics you want, GO WATCH TV; IT HAS THE MOST REALISTIC GRAPHICS YOU'LL EVER SEE!  And as for the PSP supporters, most people already have CD players, radios, computers, TVs, or MP3 players, and if you don't have one of those, maybe buying a PSP shouldn't be your first priority...

Zora Link

Why should we care? :|
so they made it a little more family friendly, big deal.

Neerb

Quote from: Zora Link on January 31, 2008, 06:28:52 PM
Why should we care? :|
so they made it a little more family friendly, big deal.
It's kiddie stuff like this that is driving older-aged new gamers toward the more violent PS3 and XBOX360.  Once they're there, they become brainless "gamers" who think graphics are better than gameplay.  Then one day, Nintendo will be owned by people who where once these gamers, and they will ruin Nintendo by making it more focused on graphics and gore than on fun.

It's sad and rediculous, but it's true.

Tupin

That's where the industry is going these days.

"Real is good, leave cartoony to Nintendo."

That is basically the mantra of most game creators.


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Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.

Zora Link

So people want graphics? then they should quit whining. They know nintendo isn't the company for that, so if they want it so much, they switch over. Simple as that.
And they wouldn't have any reason to "own" nintendo in the future.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. But If you don't know how to make lemonade, then eat it plain for all I care, just don't go whining because you want an orange.

CrazyGamer

Oh no, they changed one thing!
To complain about this, you really have no intellect.
Why don't you complain about something that actually makes sense to complain about...
Your computer is unable to compute me.

Lotos

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 31, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: mecha_fang on January 31, 2008, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 31, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
Compared to how the roster was totally screwed over, I'm not sure that detail is important at the moment.
Yeah. Sakurai should change his name to SUCK-urai. GANON SHOULD NOT BE A FREAKING CLONE, YOU MORON. Ugh... Lazy-ass developers...

That reminds me, I don't get why Ness is called a clone WHEN HE WAS THE ORIGINAL.

Quote from: JMV290 on January 30, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
Unless that bomb now shoots out candy instead of exploding I see no problem here.

I was going to say, it still serves its purpose, and at least the guns haven't been changed.


ness was revealed second.  ergo, he's a clone.

But he was the original, it doesn't make sense to me D:

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: Nashza on January 31, 2008, 01:08:44 PM

Quote from: JMV290 on January 30, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
Unless that bomb now shoots out candy instead of exploding I see no problem here.

I was going to say, it still serves its purpose, and at least the guns haven't been changed.

except it's not allowed to be called a gun. Rather a blaster.

which is the point I'm trying to make.

why change something, put in extra development time for something so trivial?
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Lol your quote is messed up.  They changed the name of the guns so that "ray gun" is "ray blaster"?  What the hell happened to when the word "Hell" was able to be said in an E rated game without a rating going up?

Tupin

Quote from: Lotos on January 31, 2008, 06:50:29 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 31, 2008, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: mecha_fang on January 31, 2008, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 31, 2008, 07:06:02 AM
Compared to how the roster was totally screwed over, I'm not sure that detail is important at the moment.
Yeah. Sakurai should change his name to SUCK-urai. GANON SHOULD NOT BE A FREAKING CLONE, YOU MORON. Ugh... Lazy-ass developers...

That reminds me, I don't get why Ness is called a clone WHEN HE WAS THE ORIGINAL.

Quote from: JMV290 on January 30, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
Unless that bomb now shoots out candy instead of exploding I see no problem here.

I was going to say, it still serves its purpose, and at least the guns haven't been changed.


ness was revealed second.  ergo, he's a clone.

But he was the original, it doesn't make sense to me D:

Quote from: Jono2 on January 31, 2008, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: Nashza on January 31, 2008, 01:08:44 PM

Quote from: JMV290 on January 30, 2008, 10:31:48 PM
Unless that bomb now shoots out candy instead of exploding I see no problem here.

I was going to say, it still serves its purpose, and at least the guns haven't been changed.

except it's not allowed to be called a gun. Rather a blaster.

which is the point I'm trying to make.

why change something, put in extra development time for something so trivial?

Lol your quote is messed up.  They changed the name of the guns so that "ray gun" is "ray blaster"?  What the hell happened to when the word "Hell" was able to be said in an E rated game without a rating going up?
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Around the turn of the century.

People have been really worried about guns ever since 9/11.


Quote from: SkyMyl
Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.