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The Smash Canceling Experiment Trials!

Started by Shujinco2, December 21, 2007, 03:45:44 PM

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Xanatos

Hmm... I was looking at this, and I'm kind of skeptical.  I think that any simple cancels (like air dodging out of an Up smash) would have been discovered already, given the time that the game has been out and the amount of time players have spent playing the game.  And it would take forever to try all of the different possibilities.

I think it'd work better if you just tried pressing random buttons.  That's how most glitches are discovered, by accident.  It would still take a while, but it might achieve better results.

GrimTuesday

Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).

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Ridley

Do you have all the spots filled for this. I would like to test stuff out.
...Friend codes were probably implemented by the same people who wanted tripping in Brawl...
...It's quite obvious...

Shujinco2

Quote from: Dawei on December 22, 2007, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on December 22, 2007, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: Dawei on December 21, 2007, 07:18:06 PM
The kirby thing wouldn't work that great anyway because of the lag from it afterwards.

Anyway, I would help, but my friend and I are having some intense C. Falcon vs. Fox matches, and I doubt he would be willing to. Maybe tomorrow.
soon WE will be having some intense c. falcon/sonic vs. fox matches! ;)
But I might not be using Fox in Brawl ;)

Anyway, the thing is, smash canceling would be a mind game thing if you could cancel it in the middle of your charge, or middle of your smash. There are already ways to cancel moves (edge canceling, for example), but it's not super awesome important because you have to be in a certain situation.

Shujinco, if you keep spelling words wrong like that, download Firefox. The spell check is very useful, and eventually the words will be engraved into your mind.
And, lol, I HAVE firefox, it just won't DO anything!

I'vew tried downloading it like 17 times, and it just keeps failing, so I've givin up on it. :-\

Shujinco2

Quote from: Ridley on December 22, 2007, 05:20:58 PM
Do you have all the spots filled for this. I would like to test stuff out.
As many spots as it takes!

Shujinco2

Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

GrimTuesday

Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.

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Shujinco2

Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

GrimTuesday

Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

Oh, I get what you mean now, I thought you meant that if you Smash Attack off an edge does it cancel the smash attack, you mean that if you do a smash attack onto a ledge does it cancel it right?

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Shujinco2

Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

Oh, I get what you mean now, I thought you meant that if you Smash Attack off an edge does it cancel the smash attack, you mean that if you do a smash attack onto a ledge does it cancel it right?
Well, that too. :P

GrimTuesday

Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 09:01:49 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

Oh, I get what you mean now, I thought you meant that if you Smash Attack off an edge does it cancel the smash attack, you mean that if you do a smash attack onto a ledge does it cancel it right?
Well, that too. :P

Myth Busted - It doesn't work

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Shujinco2

Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 09:01:49 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

Oh, I get what you mean now, I thought you meant that if you Smash Attack off an edge does it cancel the smash attack, you mean that if you do a smash attack onto a ledge does it cancel it right?
Well, that too. :P

Myth Busted - It doesn't work
DARN IT! >:(

Have YOU got a theory?

GrimTuesday

Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 09:01:49 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 22, 2007, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 22, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: GrimTuesday on December 21, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
I'll test if you are willing
YAY! You can try out that third one on there.

Fox and Link are the only ones I can think of that has a moving Forward Smash attack.

Jigglypuff has one as well and I tried all three of them, it appears that if you smash attack of an edge you stop at the end off the ledge like their is an invisible barrier. Something odd is that when I tried with fox and link they just stopped at the edge but when I tried with jiggs she did the animation where she is about to fall off the edge (you know waving her arms and stuff).
Now see what happens when you GRAB a ledge while doing it.

Like I said, you can't grab the ledge their is an invisible barrier that prevents you from going off the side of the level when you do a smash attack.
There isn't something like:


_______| that you grab on?

Oh, I get what you mean now, I thought you meant that if you Smash Attack off an edge does it cancel the smash attack, you mean that if you do a smash attack onto a ledge does it cancel it right?
Well, that too. :P

Myth Busted - It doesn't work
DARN IT! >:(

Have YOU got a theory?

I think it was because while you are doing the smash animation, their is no piece of code that says "When object Fox_Forward_Smash collision with object Edge_of_platform change object Fox_Forward_Smash into object Fox_Hanging_onto_ledge" or something like that

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