Why do people hate ZSS?

[Qsmash]

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

I dunno, my friend said they he might have been nerfed because he was too strong to be that fast.

[Dawei]

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a poopty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

[Nayrman]

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

[Cornwad]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

[tollhouse2006]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs.  Am I the only one who thought of that?

[Shujinco2]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs.  Am I the only one who thought of that?

0_o

You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?

[Cornwad]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.

[tollhouse2006]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.

I guarantee by the time Brawl is out the majority of everybody on the smash bros boards will like ZSS.  Aren't there only five members here that went to the E for All? 

[Cornwad]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

Well mabye thats why people don't like ZSS. Mabye they want to play with Samus, without having to not use Smash Balls or avoid using Smash Balls. Thats why people don't like ZSS. Or atleast one reason why.

I guarantee by the time Brawl is out the majority of everybody on the smash bros boards will like ZSS.  Aren't there only five members here that went to the E for All? 

Probably, but people that arn't from here didn't like her either. You could be right though.

[Depster]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs.  Am I the only one who thought of that?

0_o

You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?

I think neutral B initiates FS.

[Shujinco2]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs.  Am I the only one who thought of that?

0_o

You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?

I think neutral B initiates FS.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that explaind it. :)

[Nayrman]

Mabye some people want to use Samus... and keep using Samus.

Then they should turn the smash balls off if they don't feel like trying new things.

I don't like Zamus because I am forced to use her if I use my Final Smash. If she was a completely separate character who wasn't activated in a forced way, maybe I'd use her. But I don't want to be owning in a fight, and then lose my armor and get owned because I'm not used to and don't like her play style.

I guess it just takes getting used to.  You played as ZSS at the E3 for All?

No. Didn't really feel like playing as Samus because I didn't like using her that much in Melee.

Also, it's called E4all. ;)

You were there? Dang...no fair... (that's what I'm getting from your post...so if I'm wrong then I'm an idiot :P )
Who'd you play as?

Yeah, I was there. I mainly used Fox, Meta Knight, and Bowser, though I used Pit and Diddy Kong occasionally.

Is it true that Fox isn't as great as he was in melee?

Yeah. Lasers got nerfed, floatier (but so is everyone), and because of the lack of wavedash he can't waveshine. You can find a better review of him here.

I'm sure he got nerfed to balance his moveset with his final smash right?

Donkey Kong didn't really get buffed and he has a s***ty Final smash. Developers aren't about "balancing the game". He got nerfed because Sakurai decided to nerf him.

Also, his FS isn't that great, especially on smash stages.

You can tell it sucks from the screenshots...it has no range whatsoever. It's like Jiggly's sing move...you have to be an idiot to actually get hit by it X_X;

D.K just has to do his side B move getting the enemy stuck in the ground and then he uses his fs.  Am I the only one who thought of that?

0_o

You use your FS by pressing B! How is he supposed to press > + B and not use his FS when He has a smash ball?

I think neutral B initiates FS.

no, just hitting special move launches it...it's not just neutral B...