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Shadow and Chip's similarities (SA2/Unleashed spoilers)

Started by bluaki, March 16, 2009, 12:54:39 PM

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bluaki

It's nice how both of them can apply to all of these statements:
  • At the beginning of the game, the characters of the game discover him
  • He lost his memory and tries to regain it through the course of a game (Well, for Shadow, at least this doesn't happen in the same game as he's introduced in)
  • He believes that collecting the chaos emeralds may restore his memory.
  • He (arguably) has the second most storyline attention of all characters in the game, behind only Sonic. Some people might even say he has more storyline attention than Sonic in the game.
  • He alone helps Sonic defeat the final boss
  • After helping Sonic defeat the final boss, he "dies" (Well, Chip hasn't been revived in any games... yet)
  • His "death" tries to add a sad mood to the end of the game
  • The final boss is an alternate version of him (Light/Dark Gaia, the prototype of the ultimate life form)

    I believe that, in their respective first games, Shadow was a lot better than Chip.
    Who knows what they'll do to Chip in later games, seeing how Shadow turned out? D=

Nayrman

Unlike chip though, Shadow at least has a personality...
Shadow also had his memories in SA2, the amnesia thing was more of a plot device to bring him back and then SEGA tried to tie it all up when they realized it didn't work too well.

I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD

X-3

Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD

I concur. Though, maybe make Tails' different. I mean, imagine suddenly hearing this:

"Tails! You can press the circle button to shoot birds at him!"

Nayrman

Quote from: X-3 on March 16, 2009, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD

I concur. Though, maybe make Tails' different. I mean, imagine suddenly hearing this:

"Tails! You can press the circle button to shoot birds at him!"
"You can use psychokinesis to levitate above the ground" - Sonic 06

seriously, throwing birds would sound normal compared to the explinations in that game. Besides, the flicky attack could be taken out, or be automatic like it was in S3&K

JrDude

Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD
Unless Hyper Emeralds return, I highly doubt it will ever happen.
So far, the only people who can become "super" from the emeralds are the one with the last name "the Hedgehog". Though other characters have been transformed, they have only transformed through a different kind of emerald.
With that said, Sonic has been transformed by everything except the Sol Emeralds (I think, never played Sonic Rush 2), and it kinda makes me want to see Sonic in Sol Emerald form.
[move][/move]
Dude .

Nayrman

Quote from: JrDude on March 19, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD
Unless Hyper Emeralds return, I highly doubt it will ever happen.
So far, the only people who can become "super" from the emeralds are the one with the last name "the Hedgehog". Though other characters have been transformed, they have only transformed through a different kind of emerald.
With that said, Sonic has been transformed by everything except the Sol Emeralds (I think, never played Sonic Rush 2), and it kinda makes me want to see Sonic in Sol Emerald form.
In Sonic 3 and Knuckles, Knux transformed with just the Chaos Emeralds. He went into Hyper Knuckles with the Super Emeralds.
Sonic hasn't transformed with the Sol Emeralds. That's just blaze's thing.

JrDude

Quote from: Nayrman on March 20, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
Quote from: JrDude on March 19, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD
Unless Hyper Emeralds return, I highly doubt it will ever happen.
So far, the only people who can become "super" from the emeralds are the one with the last name "the Hedgehog". Though other characters have been transformed, they have only transformed through a different kind of emerald.
With that said, Sonic has been transformed by everything except the Sol Emeralds (I think, never played Sonic Rush 2), and it kinda makes me want to see Sonic in Sol Emerald form.
In Sonic 3 and Knuckles, Knux transformed with just the Chaos Emeralds. He went into Hyper Knuckles with the Super Emeralds.
Sonic hasn't transformed with the Sol Emeralds. That's just blaze's thing.
Really? Huh, weird, I wonder why he didn't transform in Sonic Heroes.
Maybe they don't want him to be Super capable anymore, but IDK.
[move][/move]
Dude .

Nayrman

Quote from: JrDude on March 20, 2009, 05:16:23 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 20, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
Quote from: JrDude on March 19, 2009, 11:24:46 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 PM
I still demand the return of the Knuckles and Tails super forms! XD
Unless Hyper Emeralds return, I highly doubt it will ever happen.
So far, the only people who can become "super" from the emeralds are the one with the last name "the Hedgehog". Though other characters have been transformed, they have only transformed through a different kind of emerald.
With that said, Sonic has been transformed by everything except the Sol Emeralds (I think, never played Sonic Rush 2), and it kinda makes me want to see Sonic in Sol Emerald form.
In Sonic 3 and Knuckles, Knux transformed with just the Chaos Emeralds. He went into Hyper Knuckles with the Super Emeralds.
Sonic hasn't transformed with the Sol Emeralds. That's just blaze's thing.
Really? Huh, weird, I wonder why he didn't transform in Sonic Heroes.
Maybe they don't want him to be Super capable anymore, but IDK.
As I've said, it's because SEGA couldn't give a crap about the old games. Why else do you think they would intercourse  up the continuity so darn bad after Adventure 2? (Even at that point SEGA never said they were anywhere different from the supposed "Mobius", just that they happened to be at this station square place).
Although I think we can all blame Sonic X for that more than anything X_X:;

JrDude

Yeah, I watched that show once and then I was like "lolwut? this sucks"
RINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU SUPER POWERFUL, THEY ARE THINGS THAT KEEP YOU ALIVE.
Also, the original voices are better than the Sonic X voices, did they use Sonic X voices in Sonic Heroes? 'cause Tails sounds like he's 4 (especially in the beginning).
[move][/move]
Dude .

Nayrman

Quote from: JrDude on March 20, 2009, 10:52:25 PM
Yeah, I watched that show once and then I was like "lolwut? this sucks"
RINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU SUPER POWERFUL, THEY ARE THINGS THAT KEEP YOU ALIVE.
Also, the original voices are better than the Sonic X voices, did they use Sonic X voices in Sonic Heroes? 'cause Tails sounds like he's 4 (especially in the beginning).
No, it wasn't 4Kids that did Heroes. It was Drummond (Sonic) and Dryer's (Shadow) last game before it got taken over by that evil organization. Tails is only different because the boy playing him in Adventure 1 and 2 (he was 8 then) was like 14 now and obviously can't do that kid voice anymore. So they got some woman to do it...