If there is another Smash game...

[Triforce_Luigi]

If there's another, it should declone Ganondorf, Toon Link, and the other clones; add a decent storyline like SSE, but obviously different; add new characters (Goroh, Krystal, Ray 01, Geno, etc); add new stages and game modes; and improve online and co-op play.

Has Ganondorf changed in Brawl or does he still have his melee moveset.

It's his Melee moveset, as it has the same attacks, but they have been made to look different from Falcon's.

Sakurai you idiot!!!  Anyway, they still look the same as they were in Melee?  When you said they have been made to look different than Falcon's does that mean they changed the look for brawl?

They're the same attacks, but they just look different. For example, instead of that face-rape, he gets a punch. Same effect, but stylized so as to be harder to recognized.

Guess that's better than being a clone.  Why the hell would Sakurai make Ganondorf similar to Falcon in melee?  That's so retarded.  Does this apply to Falco also?

I haven't seen Falco in action. From what I can tell, he has the Landmaster like Fox, and wields two blasters.

Just went on youtube.  Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q4FssYDLKs
It's between Falco, Bowser, Lucario, and Yoshi.  Falco's different.  

Thank God for that.

Falco's spinning move looked cool.  His side smash is different and he throws his reflector.  Not much of a clone to Fox huh?

No, he's sort of like Luigi in this respect. He has some of the same attacks, but he's not a total clone.

[Neerb]

If there's another, it should declone Ganondorf, Toon Link, and the other clones; add a decent storyline like SSE, but obviously different; add new characters (Goroh, Krystal, Ray 01, Geno, etc); add new stages and game modes; and improve online and co-op play.

Has Ganondorf changed in Brawl or does he still have his melee moveset.

It's his Melee moveset, as it has the same attacks, but they have been made to look different from Falcon's.

Sakurai you idiot!!!  Anyway, they still look the same as they were in Melee?  When you said they have been made to look different than Falcon's does that mean they changed the look for brawl?

They're the same attacks, but they just look different. For example, instead of that face-rape, he gets a punch. Same effect, but stylized so as to be harder to recognized.

Guess that's better than being a clone.  Why the hell would Sakurai make Ganondorf similar to Falcon in melee?  That's so retarded.  Does this apply to Falco also?

I haven't seen Falco in action. From what I can tell, he has the Landmaster like Fox, and wields two blasters.

Just went on youtube.  Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q4FssYDLKs
It's between Falco, Bowser, Lucario, and Yoshi.  Falco's different.  

Thank God for that.

Falco's spinning move looked cool.  His side smash is different and he throws his reflector.  Not much of a clone to Fox huh?

No, he's sort of like Luigi in this respect. He has some of the same attacks, but he's not a total clone.

I consider them a clone if their B moves are more-or-less the same as someone else, so Wolf and Falco are Fox clones, Ness is a Lucas clone (or is it the other way around?), Toon Link is a Link clone, and Ganondorf is a Captain Falcon clone.

However, contrary to popular belief, Lucario is NOT a clone.  And I don't mean "Lucario to Mewtwo is Luigi to Mario," I mean he is a unique character:  most of his A moves and all but one B move are different from Mewtwo, and the one B move that IS similar is really a combination of Mewtwo and Samus (barley charged, it's wavy and slow like Mewtwo's, but fully charged, it's fast and straight like Samus).

[tibar7]

i saw the youtube video. falco and ganondorf are not clones to fox and falcon