The Official United States of America: President Obama Thread

[Red]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

[Friendly Hostile]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

[Water ☮]

hmm, I rather liked Sarah Palin and was willing to hand over the country to her and McCain. In the end they were both pretty bad but I'd choose McPalin for the experience, they're the lesser of two evils I guess

[Red]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

[StarWindWizard7]

AHH HA HA HA HA  HA HA! :D

Now THAT is funny!

[Java]

Let's just hope we don't become a socialist nation. ::)

hmm, I rather liked Sarah Palin and was willing to hand over the country to her and McCain. In the end they were both pretty bad but I'd choose McPalin for the experience, they're the lesser of two evils I guess

Watch yourself.

Everyone here seems to hate Palin.

[Red]

hmm, I rather liked Sarah Palin and was willing to hand over the country to her and McCain. In the end they were both pretty bad but I'd choose McPalin for the experience, they're the lesser of two evils I guess

Watch yourself.

Everyone here seems to hate Palin.
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I don't, although I don't particularly like her either.

[Nayrman]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

[PsychoYoshi]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

Powers not specifically delegated to the federal government belong to the states and people. Ninth Amendment.

[Nayrman]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

Powers not specifically delegated to the federal government belong to the states and people. Ninth Amendment.

Elastic clause allows congress to make any laws deemed necessary, made to allow congress to pass laws in times of crisis and to keep the states from bickering forever should a deadlock issue arise...
it mutes the states rights in terms of global/national economic issues in many instances...

[Java]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

I don't see how banning abortion is unconstitutional.

I can see how you can say that about gay rights, but I just can't see it for abortion.

IN MY OPINION, abortion is murder, but some people here probably believe the opposite, so whatever.

...And yes I saw the "IMO" if you were wondering.

[Nayrman]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

I don't see how banning abortion is unconstitutional.

I can see how you can say that about gay rights, but I just can't see it for abortion.

IN MY OPINION, abortion is murder, but some people here probably believe the opposite, so whatever.

...And yes I saw the "IMO" if you were wondering.

I'm not so much interested in whether its "murder" or not (because that's up to one's own personal belief. Ther is no clinical way to really define it). I think a ban on abortion is wrong because the government has no right to interfere with your personal life and tell you how to live. It's none of their business and they should worry about more important things than what a small minority of women are doing. (miscarriages kill more babies than abortions do, according to a CNN study I read last year...I'll see if I can find it again).
But that's just me.

[Red]

Personally, I hate Obama and McCain, but I'd rather have McCain. Let's face it, both McCain and Obamas' plans are very unconstitutional.

...Not like many people care anymore though...

How so?  The constitution itself has nothing to do with the economy other than Congress being somewhat involved with the regulation of trade.

No, it doesn't, but it does deal with the way they're going about fixing it, if my memory is correct. If someone would refresh my memory (preferably about Obama's, since he's the President) I might be able to make a greater deal of sense of it...

What do you mean? There is nothing unconstitutional about EITHER of their economic plans. The only things unconstitutional (IMO!) are McCain's social policies (abortion and gay rights).

Powers not specifically delegated to the federal government belong to the states and people. Ninth Amendment.

Elastic clause allows congress to make any laws deemed necessary, made to allow congress to pass laws in times of crisis and to keep the states from bickering forever should a deadlock issue arise...
it mutes the states rights in terms of global/national economic issues in many instances...

The states have more rights than you seem to think. The elastic clause (which is now horribly abused) does NOT have effect over a state if it violates the state's constitution. (Although most states oblige to it either way, because the last time they didn't the civil war broke out) Here's an example:

If a state's constitution says that the taxes in said state can't rise over 5% over one year, and Congress passes a law that says the national tax will rise 7% in the next year, that state has the right to declare that law null. (Poor example, I know.)

[ThePowerOfOne]

hmm, I rather liked Sarah Palin and was willing to hand over the country to her and McCain. In the end they were both pretty bad but I'd choose McPalin for the experience, they're the lesser of two evils I guess

I like Sarah Palin too. I mean, I don't think she's ready to be VP, but I still like her.

[Friendly Hostile]

The states have more rights than you seem to think. The elastic clause (which is now horribly abused) does NOT have effect over a state if it violates the state's constitution. (Although most states oblige to it either way, because the last time they didn't the civil war broke out) Here's an example:

If a state's constitution says that the taxes in said state can't rise over 5% over one year, and Congress passes a law that says the national tax will rise 7% in the next year, that state has the right to declare that law null. (Poor example, I know.)

The Supremacy Clause overrides states rights even if we forget about the elastic clause.