Occupy Wall Street

[Zero]

wasn't jumping on PY like he was the devil, lol

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these folks were lying

[Bearissoslow]

If you're implying that most of the cases outlined in this thread are self-inflicted, then you most definitely are implying that personal economic failure rests solely with the effected individuals in this case. In other words, people have no one to blame for their own personal standings than their own incompetency; the market remains inherently equal.

Also, the case you outlined represents only a small part of the problem effecting Occupy Wall Street protestors. I agree with you in the fact that, given the state of the economy, one must choose a career path that will best support their economic and social well-being. Even so, the fact that American society disenfranchises those seeking higher education in certain fields remains completely unwarranted.

no, it's not. stop misquoting me, you're starting to get annoying.

at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet. Yes, this means that sometimes you can't splurge on yourself as much as you thought you would when you were younger. yes, this also means that you need to be smart with credit and making sure that you don't end up in debt.

the economy is in the poopter, but that's obvious. it's like saying the weather and a little insulting that you think I'd deny something so blatant. furthermore, it's not as though it's unusual for an economy to be cyclical. you have your rises and your falls, i.e. roaring twenties into the thirties. it's not as though this depression is exceedingly unusual, though it's still bad. the problem is that the intercourse wits have the right idea in regards to wanting income taxation and making sure to avoid the fallacy of a trickle down theory, but they're using such erroneous and self-satisfying logic that I can't take them seriously.

lastly, I didn't say that 100% of the stories were self inflicted. in fact, if you read my post, you'll see that I said "most are self inflicted with the occasional sob story". stark difference. secondly, i'll just address the issue of "blah blah blah my life sucks since a buncha poop happened my mom got cancer and I have lymphoma nd I've had it rough blah blah blah". yes, that's kind of sad. are you in the majority though? no. poop happens. life isn't fair. do we always get what we want? No, and you should know better than to expect that. people who can't temper their desires and think pragmatically suffer the fate of their own mistakes, but people who've had bad luck just had bad luck. we, as a society, can't prevent that. it's absurd to try and blame your bad luck on society, though not as bad to blame your own mistakes on society. I get that it's sad, but it's not really justifiable to me.

oh and

Even so, the fact that American society disenfranchises those seeking higher education in certain fields remains completely unwarranted.

that's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. people aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. is it bad? yes. am I supporting it? no.

if you respond to this try responding to what I said.

[Custom]

wasn't jumping on PY like he was the devil, lol

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these folks were lying

i was talking more about alex who is getting very upset about this lol

[Zero]

i was talking more about alex who is getting very upset about this lol

There is some truth to how intercourse ed up the stock market is. I'm not going to pretend like I know everything about it though.

I have some stocks that aren't really seeing any growth, that's just how the cookie crumbles. Thanks IBC!

[Custom]

There is some truth to how intercourse ed up the stock market is. I'm not going to pretend like I know everything about it though.

well yeah, it's intercourse ed up
i'm just saying that a lot of people are doing a lot of complaining and not much doing
in terms of the economy
i mean protesting is doing something
just it's not a solution of some kind as there really aren't easy solutions to the problems we're facing

[Bearissoslow]

i'll just point out the problems with both of those

1:
- pfffthahahahah comp science degree with web design. what the intercourse  did she expect, a job at microsoft? problem is you have to be exceedingly good at what you do to even get a high paying job for that, no less a job in general. she missed the opportunity for it and now most of the jobs in that area are taken and you can't get a decent backup job with that set of degrees anyway. too specific really. edit: just noticed the operations management. whoooo, that changes every thing don't it.
- what the intercourse  do languages have to do with not being able to get a job
- does she mean like "your face is so ugly I wouldn't shove my dick in it" burn or just like "ow my arm :(" burn? if it's the latter, she either signed up for a job that involved getting burned, so no sympathy, or she isn't smart enough to contact her human resources rep, so no sympathy. I don't feel bad for the choices you knowingly make.
- oh that sucks

2:
- jobs don't care about top 10%, only colleges do. jobs care about experience and qualifications, if we're arguing technical aspects. stop waving your dick, which a bunch of these posts love to do. I'M SO GREAT AND I'M UNEMPLOYED WTF????
- wow you must've bombed the interview or something if you were top 10%. more importantly, what field are you in if you got 90 offerings and intercourse ed up all of them? that's very good for this economy.
- "got a food service job, cried a lot" there's your intercourse ing problem. you were just picky and were "above" getting a job at a local food place or even mcdonald's until after you were homeless for a year. you're never too good to get paid and eat food, it's your own fault you didn't realize that sooner.
- 6,000 dollars on education? yeah that took you really far the first time amirite? more importantly, if you were homeless for a year, where the intercourse  did 6k come from? why didn't you save it for something that would benefit you more int he short term if you're homeless what the intercourse
- oh no I do porn willingly that's wall street's fault :(
- good for you. what's the problem with your life then?
- oh for intercourse 's sake. first you ninny about not having a job that uses your credentials, but then when you have a job that does that, you ninny about how much things cost in life. that's just life you idiot. sorry you couldn't afford to buy that kreayshawn halloween bling outfit without declaring bankruptcy, that's just how it goes. be grateful you got that job.
- "vet bills" for someone who got 99th on the GRE, you're not very smart. if you can hardly afford for your own standard of living, what makes you think getting another mouth to feed and care for is a good idea?
- "car keeps breaking" yeah wall street's fault. intercourse ing jews and their pot holes and bad luck wizardry i hope they die.
- I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS :( that's what life is. no one asks for bad things in their lives you dumbass.

i'm a little mad now

[CoasterKid93]

no, it's not. stop misquoting me, you're starting to get annoying.

at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet. Yes, this means that sometimes you can't splurge on yourself as much as you thought you would when you were younger. yes, this also means that you need to be smart with credit and making sure that you don't end up in debt.

the economy is in the poopter, but that's obvious. it's like saying the weather and a little insulting that you think I'd deny something so blatant. furthermore, it's not as though it's unusual for an economy to be cyclical. you have your rises and your falls, i.e. roaring twenties into the thirties. it's not as though this depression is exceedingly unusual, though it's still bad. the problem is that the intercourse wits have the right idea in regards to wanting income taxation and making sure to avoid the fallacy of a trickle down theory, but they're using such erroneous and self-satisfying logic that I can't take them seriously.

lastly, I didn't say that 100% of the stories were self inflicted. in fact, if you read my post, you'll see that I said "most are self inflicted with the occasional sob story". stark difference. secondly, i'll just address the issue of "blah blah blah my life sucks since a buncha poop happened my mom got cancer and I have lymphoma nd I've had it rough blah blah blah". yes, that's kind of sad. are you in the majority though? no. poop happens. life isn't fair. do we always get what we want? No, and you should know better than to expect that. people who can't temper their desires and think pragmatically suffer the fate of their own mistakes, but people who've had bad luck just had bad luck. we, as a society, can't prevent that. it's absurd to try and blame your bad luck on society, though not as bad to blame your own mistakes on society. I get that it's sad, but it's not really justifiable to me.

oh and

that's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. people aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. is it bad? yes. am I supporting it? no.

if you respond to this try responding to what I said.

>I misquoted you
>Mostly support what I said about your statement

"at the end of the day, socioeconomic responsibility is on your own shoulders. it's up to you to manage your own finances and making sure the ends meet."

Yes, I agree with this statement for the most part, but the problem STILL is that, after four decades of poor economic policy, the middle and lower classes remain in a state that's far less than adequate.

Also, you write about how it's simply too bad that there exists a respectably sized group who simply cannot support themselves for a variety of reasons, and yet you still contend that it's up to them to support themselves. (Paragraphs 1 & 3)[I'm not misquoting you; you state "on your shoulders," which conveys personal responsibility]. Here's the thing: yes, you are right in that there is only so much the federal government, or state governments for that matter, can do. Of course, we do have specific programs in place to help these individuals, but we both know how well those programs are going. (PARTLY due to the fact that the federal government borrows from these institutions:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/washington/09econ.html?_r=1&oref=slogin [Borrowing from a 2 trillion dollar social security SURPLUS in 2006]).

However, if these individuals remain unable to support themselves given the totality of this situation and current economic polices in effect, then basically what is being conveyed is a system that will continue to do nothing but perpetuate unemployment and economic malfeasance. That's not attempting to reverse a problem, it's just turning away from it.

Furthermore, in regards to your statement on education: "That's life kid. America's education system is in the poopter and unemployment is high. People aren't taking degrees as seriously as they would experience now. Is it bad? Yes. Am I supporting it? No."

That's not attempting to reverse a problem, that's just accepting it as something ("That's life kid") that cannot be fixed.


(I truly hope I haven't misquoted anything that you have said, but given the context of the statements, I maintain my position).

[CoasterKid93]

because these people wouldn't lie to make their situation seem worse or to make it look like it's not their fault they're not being hired

>over 90 jobs IN MY FIELD (probably being picky as intercourse  also it was probably more like 5 applications)
>1 interview
>GAVE UP
>i do porn now (instead of intercourse ing trying to get a job at 7/11)

yes, that's the indication of a loser if i've ever seen one

i like how you guys jump on PY like he's the devil for making up opinionated statistics but you can believe everything these people throw at you
jesus christ

also, vet bills
pets are the same as kids, just a little less expensive

How's your job search going?

[Custom]

How's your job search going?

great argument alex
10/10

too bad i'm not a big loser like these people

[CoasterKid93]

great argument alex
10/10

too bad i'm not a big loser like these people

But if you know exactly what these people are doing wrong, one would expect results from the person who knows how to do it right.

[Custom]

But if you know exactly what these people are doing wrong, one would expect results from the person who knows how to do it right.

i know giving up a job search after a year, going into porn, and complaining about it to the internet isn't the solution
i don't currently need a job, these people do

[Custom]

what the hell did you learn in speech and debate jesus that was awful/10

[Custom]

guys, we live in a society where someone like raywilliamjohnson can make a living off of stealing funny videos on the internet and support himself while traveling the world
it's not too awful
we have it great here

[CoasterKid93]

i know giving up a job search after a year, going into porn, and complaining about it to the internet isn't the solution
i don't currently need a job, these people do

All that I'm trying to say is that if you don't truly understand the situations these people are in, and if you haven't encountered such a situation yourself, then don't criticize them.

[Custom]

All that I'm trying to say is that if you don't truly understand the situations these people are in, and if you haven't encountered such a situation yourself, then don't criticize them.

but see
i've watched people lose their jobs, get into these situations, and get out in get a new job that they have to work harder at but can still maintain their lifestyle within a week
i've also watched people loser their jobs, sit there for a year, and complain about it
these people are the complaining type