QuoteObama has encouraged Democrats to reach out to evangelicals and other church-going people, saying, "if we truly hope to speak to people where they're at—to communicate our hopes and values in a way that's relevant to their own—we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse."
quote from wikipedia.
I hope so btw...
I don't know but it sounds like he's trying to get the "religious vote" That sentence to me though doesn't sound like he is for the separation of church and state?
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.
In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 10, 2008, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.
In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.
He did? Never mind >_<
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 10, 2008, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.
In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.
I thought he won from electorals, but the kerry won by popular vote.
So he wants the state out of the church and no religious puppet officials.
Good plan.
bush won because kerry managed to pull off the worst campaign drive in US history.
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
bush won because kerry managed to pull off the worst campaign drive in US history.
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Obama, or basically anyone but Clinton.
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Obama, or basically anyone but Clinton.
Bingo
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Obama, or basically anyone but Clinton.
Bingo
So i guess we all agree Obama?
but Dennis Kucinich would be nice...
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Obama, or basically anyone but Clinton.
Bingo
So i guess we all agree Obama?
but Dennis Kucinich would be nice...
As long as we don't have Clinton. She would be worse than Bill was when he was in office.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:56:56 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
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Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...
Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.
"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."
Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.
He said those kind of things during his campaign speech?
Add an "es" to speech and you got it.
So both candidates were hopeless...
At least this time, it looks like we have some better candidates.
As long as Clinton doesn't win, then yes.
So, who are you hoping will take office?
Obama, or basically anyone but Clinton.
Bingo
So i guess we all agree Obama?
but Dennis Kucinich would be nice...
As long as we don't have Clinton. She would be worse than Bill was when he was in office.
I seriously don't want to imagine how she will act in that time of month >_<
I'm sure she's well past menopause.
And 04 was a Big Douche v. Giant Turd race.
Quote from: Hiei on January 10, 2008, 09:05:47 PM
I'm sure she's well past menopause.
Oh God... it would be the end of the world.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Oh God... it would be the end of the world.
Do you even know what menopause is?
Quote from: Hiei on January 10, 2008, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Oh God... it would be the end of the world.
Do you even know what menopause is?
Yes, luckily I am a guy, so I wont have to go through it.
Heat flashes, mood swings... just not my thing.
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: Hiei on January 10, 2008, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Oh God... it would be the end of the world.
Do you even know what menopause is?
Yes, luckily I am a guy, so I wont have to go through it.
Heat flashes, mood swings... just not my thing.
He's saying that Clinton would be pass Menopause, so that means no more periods( i think)
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 10:09:54 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: Hiei on January 10, 2008, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 09:06:34 PM
Oh God... it would be the end of the world.
Do you even know what menopause is?
Yes, luckily I am a guy, so I wont have to go through it.
Heat flashes, mood swings... just not my thing.
He's saying that Clinton would be pass Menopause, so that means no more periods( i think)
Clinton's always on her period.
sounds like he's kissing ass