Does this mean Barack Obama is for seperation of church and state?

Pokesamrus · January 10, 2008, 05:07:25 PM

QuoteObama has encouraged Democrats to reach out to evangelicals and other church-going people, saying, "if we truly hope to speak to people where they're at—to communicate our hopes and values in a way that's relevant to their own—we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse."

quote from wikipedia.

I hope so btw...

… · January 10, 2008, 05:15:59 PM

I don't know but it sounds like he's trying to get the "religious vote" That sentence to me though doesn't sound like he is for the separation of church and state?

phatyo · January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM

His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.

Mystic · January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM

Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.

Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.

PsychoYoshi · January 10, 2008, 06:23:37 PM

Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.

In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.

Mystic · January 10, 2008, 06:30:49 PM

Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 10, 2008, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.

In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.

He did? Never mind >_<

Pokesamrus · January 10, 2008, 07:45:09 PM

Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 10, 2008, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Mystic Swampert on January 10, 2008, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: phatyo on January 10, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
His only trying to win religieous people votes which is why I think bush won for the second time.
Except Bush didn't win by popular vote.

In 2004? Uh, yes, he did.

I thought he won from electorals, but the kerry won by popular vote.

Tahrann · January 10, 2008, 08:16:40 PM

So he wants the state out of the church and no religious puppet officials.

Good plan.

Jono2 · January 10, 2008, 08:25:50 PM

bush won because kerry managed to pull off the worst campaign drive in US history.

Syncopathic · January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM

Quote from: Jono2 on January 10, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
bush won because kerry managed to pull off the worst campaign drive in US history.

No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...

major tom · January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM

Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...

Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.

Syncopathic · January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM

Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.

Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...

Tahrann · January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM

Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...

Wanna bet?

Syncopathic · January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM

Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...

Wanna bet?

If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.

Tahrann · January 10, 2008, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
Quote from: Tahrann on January 10, 2008, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: Co-Z on January 10, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ludwig3 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:34 PM
No, Bush won because the average Americans are total idiots, he managed to trick them, yet again...
Can't wait for November...
Yah can't deny that Kerry would suck too.
Even if he did suck, he would still be better than Bush, thats for sure...

Wanna bet?
If you can show me proof that Kerry would be worse than Bush, I'll believe you.

"We should pull our troops out of Iraq." "We should put more troops into Iraq to win this war." "We need to bring our boys home." "If we send more in we can beat them."

Course this is not direct quotes, but the fact that he says he wants them out, then put them back in, just to sway a vote makes me a bit skepticle.

Does this mean Barack Obama is for seperation of church and state?

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