Yeah, the last games of Mario were or are still very good, but what about Sonic? His last games were or are horrible, will there be hope for our favorite hedgehog who doesn't wear clothes? ( ;D )
Discuss.
Thankfully, Mario's main games are getting better, as his spin-offs are poop. I'd like to see another Sonic game that I enjoyed as much as Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, or at least DX.
Thank you for stating the obvious, Captain obvious.
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:34:48 PM
Thankfully, Mario's main games are getting better, as his spin-offs are s***. I'd like to see another Sonic game that I enjoyed as much as Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, or at least DX.
Unfortunanely SA2: Battle even said that was the last episode. :(
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:34:48 PM
Thankfully, Mario's main games are getting better, as his spin-offs are s***. I'd like to see another Sonic game that I enjoyed as much as Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, or at least DX.
Unfortunanely SA2: Battle even said that was the last episode. :(
WHAT? I guess I wasn't paying attention. Remake it for the Wii with wi-fi. Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit... Then we'd need probably friend codes :| Damn friend codes.
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
*Looks at Title*
That's how it's been for the last 5 years.
Both are staying about the same.
Mario was pretty good, and is still pretty good. Sonic sucked, and still sucks.
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 16, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
*Looks at Title*
That's how it's been for the last 5 years.
5 years? I thought 2 years.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a intercourse about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Is funny to see Rosalina way better than all of them. :D
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:42:59 PM
Quote from: LinkXLR on January 16, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
*Looks at Title*
That's how it's been for the last 5 years.
5 years? I thought 2 years.
5 years ago was when Sonic started getting REALLY bad. Sonic Heroes I think.
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Is funny to see Rosalina way better than all of them. :D
I see her as Peach, but with a lower pitched voice and not as the pain that you have to save over, and over, and over again. Plus, I LOVED that storybook in SMG.
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Ahem, Mario and Sonic at the olympic games. Rating, good. (Sonic took down the score)
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
yes, The only characters I even know are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, are there any other original characters?
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
yes, The only characters I even know are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, are there any other original characters?
I guess if you count Amy and Metal Sonic. I'm not sure if Chaotix would count as original.
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Ahem, Mario and Sonic at the olympic games. Rating, good. (Sonic took down the score)
That wasn't my definition of platformer... is it one? ????
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
yes, The only characters I even know are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, are there any other original characters?
I guess if you count Amy and Metal Sonic. I'm not sure if Chaotix would count as original.
I mean from before sega went third party, or are they from that time?
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Ahem, Mario and Sonic at the olympic games. Rating, good. (Sonic took down the score)
That wasn't my definition of platformer... is it one? ????
I haven't opened it yet, but from what I've seen, I think it's like a Mario Party. I WISH it was a platformer :(
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Ahem, Mario and Sonic at the olympic games. Rating, good. (Sonic took down the score)
That wasn't my definition of platformer... is it one? ????
Maybe. When you know it Sonic will be in the cemetery................INSIDE A GRAVE.
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
yes, The only characters I even know are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, are there any other original characters?
I guess if you count Amy and Metal Sonic. I'm not sure if Chaotix would count as original.
I mean from before sega went third party, or are they from that time?
Yeah, they're original.
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on January 16, 2008, 05:52:53 PM
Quote from: NINNIN6 on January 16, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
Omega mad me off as he was an unnecessary replacment to E-102 Gamma
Blaze, I just don't know.
Just when you think Shadow's the last one, Silver comes along.
I don't even give a f*** about Jet and his friends whose names I never memorized.
Storm and Wave. :P
There are too many characters, not enough good games. :O Maybe Naka and Miyamoto could work on a Sonic/Mario Platformer! It would be epic! XD
Ahem, Mario and Sonic at the olympic games. Rating, good. (Sonic took down the score)
That wasn't my definition of platformer... is it one? ????
Maybe. When you know it Sonic will be in the cemetery................INSIDE A GRAVE.
Meh, I prefer Stalagmite.
I like it when Sonic dies at the end of Sonic 360, because it's what he deserves for being in such bad games.
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Commissar Torgo on January 16, 2008, 05:53:53 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 05:38:56 PM
Sonic needs to stop adding characters.
yes, The only characters I even know are Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman, are there any other original characters?
I guess if you count Amy and Metal Sonic. I'm not sure if Chaotix would count as original.
I mean from before sega went third party, or are they from that time?
I think pretty much everyone up to Sonic Adventure 2 would be "original" then.
QuoteMario is getting better
Joke of the day.
Theyre both getting worse, imo. \:
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 05:58:39 PM
I haven't opened it yet, but from what I've seen, I think it's like a Mario Party. I WISH it was a platformer :(
It's not like Mario Party.
It's somewhat similar to Wii Sports, except that it has way more than just 5 or so sports and has Mario and Sonic characters added on top of Miis.
I'm pretty sure Brawl's Subspace Emissary counts as a platforming...
Quote from: Genius on January 16, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
QuoteMario is getting better
Joke of the day.
On a smaller scale, like from Sunshine to Galaxy, it is.
most of mario's real games are good, Sonic on the other hand hasn't been cool since the Genesis days (except Rush and Rush Adventure which somewhat redeemed him)
Back then in the 1990's, People thought the oposite.
SA2 is ftw.
Sonic Heroes began the ballsucking era of Sonic's main games. I really hate how Shadow died in SA2, but didn't really die when Sonic Heroes began.
That was just... bullpoop. If you're gonna kill off a character, LET HIM FUCKING DIE. It's cliche to make a villain become a good guy and die heroicly in the end. It's not helping that he comes back to life and becomes an 'anti-hero'. That was plotline bullpoop.
So yeah. Mario hasn't declined. Sonic has been poop since SA2.
I still don't know if it's the real Shadow or a robot shadow created by Eggman. ???
Quote from: Lotos on January 16, 2008, 07:22:55 PM
I still don't know if it's the real Shadow or a robot shadow created by Eggman. ???
In the final boss fight of Shadow the Hedgehog, Eggman confirms he's the real Shadow.
I originally thought that the Sonic RPG might be a decent game since it's being developed by Bioware. My interest faded into the wind when I learned about a certain feature that would be in the game.
-In game graphics have a water color look, all hand drawn
-4 party members at a time
-Each character can do certain things ex: Tails can float over things (standard stuff)
-11 party members total - 8 known are Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Shadow, Big the Cat
-Control done fully with stylus - think Hourglass
-Able to split party into teams at certain moments
-Rings are used as currency
-Rage meter turns Sonic into Omega Sonic unleashing a black fury on badniks
-No random battles, see enemies on the field
-Turn based battles, choose commands for everyone in your party before they actually follow through. Want battles to be fast paced
-Elite Beat Agents style special attacks
-Return of fan favorite Ray the Squirrel
-Team attacks (like Chrono Trigger)
-"Fatigue Points" instead of MP
-Choose which attributes to increase when you level up
-Purchase and level special attacks
-Make your own radical character to have adventures alongside Sonic
-Bits of story - Sonic's on vacation from defeating Eggman 2 years ago. Gets a call from Tails that Knuckles has been kidnapped by a group called the Marauders, and that 6 chaos emeralds are missing. Eggman not the main villain. But Bioware wants to make him a creditable bad guy again. Something about a "twist" between Eggman and Sonic that goes back to the earlier games.
-2 acts - first takes place in standard Sonic areas. 2nd takes place in a darker world
-Ren'Ai style dating system
-Remixed classic tunes
-"fully animated cut scenes"
-simple dialogue trees
-Side quests
Quote from: Helios on January 16, 2008, 08:25:56 PM
I originally thought that the Sonic RPG might be a decent game since it's being developed by Bioware. My interest faded into the wind when I learned about a certain feature that would be in the game.
-In game graphics have a water color look, all hand drawn
-4 party members at a time
-Each character can do certain things ex: Tails can float over things (standard stuff)
-11 party members total - 8 known are Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Shadow, Big the Cat
-Control done fully with stylus - think Hourglass
-Able to split party into teams at certain moments
-Rings are used as currency
-Rage meter turns Sonic into Omega Sonic unleashing a black fury on badniks
-No random battles, see enemies on the field
-Turn based battl
es, choose commands for everyone in your party before they actually follow through. Want battles to be fast paced
-Elite Beat Agents style special attacks
-Return of fan favorite Ray the Squirrel
-Team attacks (like Chrono Trigger)
-"Fatigue Points" instead of MP
-Choose which attributes to increase when you level up
-Purchase and level special attacks
-Make your own radical character to have adventures alongside Sonic
-Bits of story - Sonic's on vacation from defeating Eggman 2 years ago. Gets a call from Tails that Knuckles has been kidnapped by a group called the Marauders, and that 6 chaos emeralds are missing. Eggman not the main villain. But Bioware wants to make him a creditable bad guy again. Something about a "twist" between Eggman and Sonic that goes back to the earlier games.
-2 acts - first takes place in standard Sonic areas. 2nd takes place in a darker world
-Ren'Ai style dating system
-Remixed classic tunes
-"fully animated cut scenes"
-simple dialogue trees
-Side quests
Is that bad?
What's Ren'Ai?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Helios on January 16, 2008, 08:25:56 PM
I originally thought that the Sonic RPG might be a decent game since it's being developed by Bioware. My interest faded into the wind when I learned about a certain feature that would be in the game.
-In game graphics have a water color look, all hand drawn
-4 party members at a time
-Each character can do certain things ex: Tails can float over things (standard stuff)
-11 party members total - 8 known are Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Shadow, Big the Cat
-Control done fully with stylus - think Hourglass
-Able to split party into teams at certain moments
-Rings are used as currency
-Rage meter turns Sonic into Omega Sonic unleashing a black fury on badniks
-No random battles, see enemies on the field
-Turn based battl
es, choose commands for everyone in your party before they actually follow through. Want battles to be fast paced
-Elite Beat Agents style special attacks
-Return of fan favorite Ray the Squirrel
-Team attacks (like Chrono Trigger)
-"Fatigue Points" instead of MP
-Choose which attributes to increase when you level up
-Purchase and level special attacks
-Make your own radical character to have adventures alongside Sonic
-Bits of story - Sonic's on vacation from defeating Eggman 2 years ago. Gets a call from Tails that Knuckles has been kidnapped by a group called the Marauders, and that 6 chaos emeralds are missing. Eggman not the main villain. But Bioware wants to make him a creditable bad guy again. Something about a "twist" between Eggman and Sonic that goes back to the earlier games.
-2 acts - first takes place in standard Sonic areas. 2nd takes place in a darker world
-Ren'Ai style dating system
-Remixed classic tunes
-"fully animated cut scenes"
-simple dialogue trees
-Side quests
Is that bad?
What's Ren'Ai?
From what I've heard, ren'ai is basically the way most Japanese dating sims are played.
Quote from: Helios on January 16, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 16, 2008, 08:27:06 PM
Quote from: Helios on January 16, 2008, 08:25:56 PM
I originally thought that the Sonic RPG might be a decent game since it's being developed by Bioware. My interest faded into the wind when I learned about a certain feature that would be in the game.
-In game graphics have a water color look, all hand drawn
-4 party members at a time
-Each character can do certain things ex: Tails can float over things (standard stuff)
-11 party members total - 8 known are Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Shadow, Big the Cat
-Control done fully with stylus - think Hourglass
-Able to split party into teams at certain moments
-Rings are used as currency
-Rage meter turns Sonic into Omega Sonic unleashing a black fury on badniks
-No random battles, see enemies on the field
-Turn based battl
es, choose commands for everyone in your party before they actually follow through. Want battles to be fast paced
-Elite Beat Agents style special attacks
-Return of fan favorite Ray the Squirrel
-Team attacks (like Chrono Trigger)
-"Fatigue Points" instead of MP
-Choose which attributes to increase when you level up
-Purchase and level special attacks
-Make your own radical character to have adventures alongside Sonic
-Bits of story - Sonic's on vacation from defeating Eggman 2 years ago. Gets a call from Tails that Knuckles has been kidnapped by a group called the Marauders, and that 6 chaos emeralds are missing. Eggman not the main villain. But Bioware wants to make him a creditable bad guy again. Something about a "twist" between Eggman and Sonic that goes back to the earlier games.
-2 acts - first takes place in standard Sonic areas. 2nd takes place in a darker world
-Ren'Ai style dating system
-Remixed classic tunes
-"fully animated cut scenes"
-simple dialogue trees
-Side quests
Is that bad?
What's Ren'Ai?
From what I've heard, ren'ai is basically the way most Japanese dating sims are played.
Meh, that's a decent addition, I want Sonic and Amy to finally get together. :P
Sonic Rush was awesome, so no. Sonic is a rollercoaster.
sonic and the secret rings sucked the story was so hard to follow and the missions were all broken up, random, and pointless
Quote from: Anifreak on January 16, 2008, 09:02:20 PM
sonic and the secret rings sucked the story was so hard to follow and the missions were all broken up, random, and pointless
I swear Darkspine Sonic's voice was Goku's voice. :O
BUMP.