Do you think it will reappear in Brawl. I don't. I mean, it was a glitch wasn't it??
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According to the demos its much harder to do or something. Now you can't air dodge in a direction or something. I think
I think it was greatly minimized. The only way you could get rid of it completely...was to let them air dodge into the ground, which is even worse since it looks cheap and dumb.
I hope it is not in... because I can't do it.
Wavedashing in melee requires the ability to move in a certain direction when you air-dodge.
The ability to move in the direction when you air-dodge has been removed in Brawl.
Wavedashing is out.
?????
PROFIT!
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Awww... but we need a 10 page rant thread...
Its supposedly much harder to do and less effective...
Ah well, L-canceling is still in.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Awww... but we need a 10 page rant thread...
Its supposedly much harder to do and less effective...
Ah well, L-canceling is still in.
Is L-Canceling the same thing as R-Canceling?
I need to see a video of this.
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Awww... but we need a 10 page rant thread...
Its supposedly much harder to do and less effective...
Ah well, L-canceling is still in.
Is L-Canceling the same thing as R-Canceling?
I need to see a video of this.
L-canceling does not refer to the button.
It stands for Lag Canceling.
So yew it is the same.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Awww... but we need a 10 page rant thread...
Its supposedly much harder to do and less effective...
Ah well, L-canceling is still in.
Is L-Canceling the same thing as R-Canceling?
I need to see a video of this.
L-canceling does not refer to the button.
It stands for Lag Canceling.
So yew it is the same.
OH!
Man, I really misread that term for the longest time then... ! :P
Uhhhhhhhhh
what does Lag Canceling do? :robotindifferent:
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:18:36 PM
I'm not gonna say on whether it's a glitch or not. :P
But I will say I hope it's not included in SSBB.
Awww... but we need a 10 page rant thread...
Its supposedly much harder to do and less effective...
Ah well, L-canceling is still in.
Is L-Canceling the same thing as R-Canceling?
I need to see a video of this.
L-canceling does not refer to the button.
It stands for Lag Canceling.
So yew it is the same.
OH!
Man, I really misread that term for the longest time then... ! :P
Uhhhhhhhhh
what does Lag Canceling do? :robotindifferent:
Wow, so have I. 0_o
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wavedashing is doing it when you are going up, wavelanding is doing it when you are going down. To waveland you use a move that "pulls you downward" Mario's Bair or Bowser's Bair are good example. The cloest you can get to wavedashing is Float cancelling with peach and uing her nair I think it is.
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wavedashing is doing it when you are going up, wavelanding is doing it when you are going down. To waveland you use a move that "pulls you downward" Mario's Bair or Bowser's Bair are good example. The cloest you can get to wavedashing is Float cancelling with peach and uing her nair I think it is.
Ah that makes sense...
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wavedashing is doing it when you are going up, wavelanding is doing it when you are going down. To waveland you use a move that "pulls you downward" Mario's Bair or Bowser's Bair are good example. The cloest you can get to wavedashing is Float cancelling with peach and uing her nair I think it is.
*Brain asplodes*
All these friggin' advanced terms!
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wave dashing is when you mid air dodge at an angle right?
Maybe wave landing is just the ability to press the "L or R" button to cancel the lagging with out going at an angle. :robotindifferent:
I hate this crap.
>_>
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wave dashing is when you mid air dodge at an angle right?
Maybe wave landing is just the ability to press the "L or R" button to cancel the lagging with out going at an angle. :robotindifferent:
I hate this crap.
>_>
Me. Friggin'. Too.
I hope all advanced techniques are out! :|
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:33:24 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PM
Wavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.
Arent they basically the same thing?
Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wave dashing is when you mid air dodge at an angle right?
Maybe wave landing is just the ability to press the "L or R" button to cancel the lagging with out going at an angle. :robotindifferent:
I hate this crap.
>_>
No, wavelanding is air-dodging downwards at and angle while moving down.
L-canceling is hitting l or r after an aerial move to cancel lag after hitting the ground.
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 21, 2008, 07:33:24 PMQuote from: Hector_the_Axe on January 21, 2008, 07:27:48 PMQuote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:25:38 PMWavedshing has been confimed to be out since October. Now wavelanding, that is in.And Star, L-cancelling is the same as R-canceling, if I'm right in what I think you mean. Pressing R right before landing to cancel half the lag, right?
Hmm... how can wavelanding be in and not wavedashing.Arent they basically the same thing?Wavedashing just using minimal jumps.
Wave dashing is when you mid air dodge at an angle right?Maybe wave landing is just the ability to press the "L or R" button to cancel the lagging with out going at an angle. :robotindifferent:I hate this crap.>_>
Wavedashing: Jumping and immediatly air doging diagonaly into the ground. If you do it correctly, it shouldn't even look like you jumped and you should slide along the ground
Wavelanding: The same air dodging technique, but instead of doing it right when you jump, you do it when you are landing from a jump
L-canceling: Pressing L, R, or Z right before you hit the ground after doing an air attack to cancel half of the lag.
You know about this stuff Dawei, so is it basically wavedashing out being overridden by wavelanding or something?
I heard that was the case from a friend of mine in RL...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:39:54 PM
You know about this stuff Dawei, so is it basically wavedashing out being overridden by wavelanding or something?
I heard that was the case from a friend of mine in RL...
Not overridden (at least, not in my definition), but to be blunt;
WAVEDASHING IS OUT
WAVELANDING IS IN BUT DONE DIFFERENTLY
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:39:54 PM
You know about this stuff Dawei, so is it basically wavedashing out being overridden by wavelanding or something?
I heard that was the case from a friend of mine in RL...
Not overridden (at least, not in my definition), but to be blunt;
WAVEDASHING IS OUT
WAVELANDING IS IN BUT DONE DIFFERENTLY
okey dokey. Just wanted to be sure. Now I don't have to worry about the idiots who spam wavedashing online
thinks: "lawz wahfedassin meens ahm gud yayz!"
It's times like those I'm glad there is no voice chat...stupid twelve year olds...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:41:19 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:39:54 PM
You know about this stuff Dawei, so is it basically wavedashing out being overridden by wavelanding or something?
I heard that was the case from a friend of mine in RL...
Not overridden (at least, not in my definition), but to be blunt;
WAVEDASHING IS OUT
WAVELANDING IS IN BUT DONE DIFFERENTLY
okey dokey. Just wanted to be sure. Now I don't have to worry about the idiots who spam wavedashing online
thinks: "lawz wahfedassin meens ahm gud yayz!"
It's times like those I'm glad there is no voice chat...stupid twelve year olds...
Doesn't make them skilled, but it means they have some technical advantage against those who can't do it ;)
Also, I must say that this is only what is known from the E4all demo. None of the other demos that have been out have been as easy to get to for anything else to be discovered. Things could always change, though believe this for now.
I'm sure we both know people who spam WD's and think they're good because of it.
Despite the Wii not having good specs, it's been seven years since Melee's release. I'm sure they've come up with ways to get rid of it for the most part, although Wavelanding is something they probably couldn't get rid of completely (not even the PS3 has that type of specs to get rid of something like that completely)
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I'm sure we both know people who spam WD's and think they're good because of it.
Despite the Wii not having good specs, it's been seven years since Melee's release. I'm sure they've come up with ways to get rid of it for the most part, although Wavelanding is something they probably couldn't get rid of completely (not even the PS3 has that type of specs to get rid of something like that completely)
There is no reason to get rid of it though. It wasn't hurting anyone.
Not to mention Sakurai is pretty much oblivious to people who play smash a lot, so he probably doesn't even know about it.
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I'm sure we both know people who spam WD's and think they're good because of it.
Despite the Wii not having good specs, it's been seven years since Melee's release. I'm sure they've come up with ways to get rid of it for the most part, although Wavelanding is something they probably couldn't get rid of completely (not even the PS3 has that type of specs to get rid of something like that completely)
There is no reason to get rid of it though. It wasn't hurting anyone.
Not to mention Sakurai is pretty much oblivious to people who play smash a lot, so he probably doesn't even know about it.
If Sakurai is anything like Miyamoto, Kojima, or any good game developer, he probably knows about everything about the game from just being OCD at points.
It wasn't hurting, but I'm glad to see it go though...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I'm sure we both know people who spam WD's and think they're good because of it.
Despite the Wii not having good specs, it's been seven years since Melee's release. I'm sure they've come up with ways to get rid of it for the most part, although Wavelanding is something they probably couldn't get rid of completely (not even the PS3 has that type of specs to get rid of something like that completely)
There is no reason to get rid of it though. It wasn't hurting anyone.
Not to mention Sakurai is pretty much oblivious to people who play smash a lot, so he probably doesn't even know about it.
If Sakurai is anything like Miyamoto, Kojima, or any good game developer, he probably knows about everything about the game from just being OCD at points.
It wasn't hurting, but I'm glad to see it go though...
Why are you glad? Because you can't do it you want no one else to be able too?
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 08:02:56 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: Dawei on January 21, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 21, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I'm sure we both know people who spam WD's and think they're good because of it.
Despite the Wii not having good specs, it's been seven years since Melee's release. I'm sure they've come up with ways to get rid of it for the most part, although Wavelanding is something they probably couldn't get rid of completely (not even the PS3 has that type of specs to get rid of something like that completely)
There is no reason to get rid of it though. It wasn't hurting anyone.
Not to mention Sakurai is pretty much oblivious to people who play smash a lot, so he probably doesn't even know about it.
If Sakurai is anything like Miyamoto, Kojima, or any good game developer, he probably knows about everything about the game from just being OCD at points.
It wasn't hurting, but I'm glad to see it go though...
Why are you glad? Because you can't do it you want no one else to be able too?
I can do it decently (only with Marth and Falco tho), it just annoyed me for some reason. I dunno why, it just irked me.. I'd be fine if it was in though. No biggie if it turns out it is.
Wave dashing is out and L-canceling is pretty much useless since alot of characters have little lag in their attacks.
I don't know why is it so important for wavedashing and other advanced tech to be in the game(although fastfalling and edge-hogging is an except)
Aren't their more techniques then just the few mentioned?