How many are in the game?
This really ticks me off.
I guess all i want to know is if any other clones from Melee are in... dont spoil the new roster please.
Most are in, but they're not clones this time.
A couple are gone.
Quote from: Felldohs_wrath on February 07, 2008, 07:49:45 AM
Most are in, but they're not clones this time.
A couple are gone.
Gdorf
Ness
Falco im guessing
Name some who aren't clones please.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 08:00:11 AM
Quote from: Felldohs_wrath on February 07, 2008, 07:49:45 AM
Most are in, but they're not clones this time.
A couple are gone.
Gdorf
Ness
Falco im guessing
Name some who aren't clones please.
all of them they all have differences now just like luigi had differences from 64 to melee
Well, Ness isn't the clone, Lucas is. But Even Lucas is like Luigi.
Okay, Falco is not a clone.
Gdorf isn't but he's similar.
That's it.
I think. I'm trying not to reveal too much so I think that's it.
Quote from: Felldohs_wrath on February 07, 2008, 08:12:01 AM
Well, Ness isn't the clone, Lucas is. But Even Lucas is like Luigi.
Okay, Falco is not a clone.
Gdorf isn't but he's similar.
That's it.
I think. I'm trying not to reveal too much so I think that's it.
If roy is in, don't tell me >_<
Im gonna go find Falco's moves now...
Falco is a lot different...wow.
From what I've seen, they aren't really clones per se. The best term for them would be semi clones or Luigified. I wish I could help you on the numbers but I don't know the answer.
Wolf is a clone of both Falco and fox so... sucks. All have same final smash too. Sucks.
Toon Link is a clone of Link. Same FS
Ness clone of Lucas
etc etc.
So yeah alot of clones.
Quote from: Geno on February 07, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
Wolf is a clone of both Falco and fox so... sucks. All have same final smash too. Sucks.
Toon Link is a clone of Link. Same FS
Ness clone of Lucas
etc etc.
So yeah alot of clones.
They're not clones. :| They're Luigis.
And Falco is completely different from Fox. >_<
Quote from: Felldohs_wrath on February 07, 2008, 09:48:56 AM
Quote from: Geno on February 07, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
Wolf is a clone of both Falco and fox so... sucks. All have same final smash too. Sucks.
Toon Link is a clone of Link. Same FS
Ness clone of Lucas
etc etc.
So yeah alot of clones.
They're not clones. :| They're Luigis.
And Falco is completely different from Fox. >_<
They all still have similar FSs and Special Moves...
The point is Sakurai could have been more original.
hector ain't in....
neither is my wanted guy....:( :( :(
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:27:35 PM
hector ain't in....
neither is my wanted guy....:( :( :(
who is your wanted guy?
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:27:35 PM
hector ain't in....
neither is my wanted guy....:( :( :(
Now you are going to die...
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 01:35:38 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:27:35 PM
hector ain't in....
neither is my wanted guy....:( :( :(
Now you are going to die...
says the person who isn't even on the same side of the border as me.... 8)
Fury can cross continents.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 01:51:38 PM
Fury can cross continents.
I guess it missed me then... cause i'm still here.... :P
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 01:51:38 PM
Fury can cross continents.
I guess it missed me then... cause i'm still here.... :P
Im chargin mah laserz!!!
Now, hear this TFM....
I don't hate your or anything of the sort... but now it is my personal mission to obliterate you in Brawl.
You are my first opponent.... count on it.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 01:51:38 PM
Fury can cross continents.
I guess it missed me then... cause i'm still here.... :P
Im chargin mah laserz!!!
Now, hear this TFM....
I don't hate your or anything of the sort... but now it is my personal mission to obliterate you in Brawl.
You are my first opponent.... count on it.
Too bad I don't have Wi-Fi....:P
Also, I could pwn you with mah pwnsome Link Skillz.
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on February 07, 2008, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 07, 2008, 01:51:38 PM
Fury can cross continents.
I guess it missed me then... cause i'm still here.... :P
Im chargin mah laserz!!!
Now, hear this TFM....
I don't hate your or anything of the sort... but now it is my personal mission to obliterate you in Brawl.
You are my first opponent.... count on it.
Too bad I don't have Wi-Fi....:P
Also, I could pwn you with mah pwnsome Link Skillz.
RAWR
by the way there's no clones in brawl
Quote from: tibar7 on February 07, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
yay! i got upgraded to something i can't pronounce!
great now go say it somewhere else
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Quote from: tibar7 on February 07, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
yay! i got upgraded to something i can't pronounce!
great now go say it somewhere else
i'm the best smah player in the world. treat me with respect
no clones just luigification O0
Gdorf and toon link come really close though.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 07, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Michael227 on February 07, 2008, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 07, 2008, 02:43:59 PM
yay! i got upgraded to something i can't pronounce!
great now go say it somewhere else
i'm the best smah player in the world. treat me with respect
Im already chargin mah lazer dont make meh shewt it! :P
toon link and link are the only ones that come close to being clones
Quote from: tibar7 on February 07, 2008, 02:56:45 PM
toon link and link are the only ones that come close to being clones
Yep, bring on the Landmasters :)
From theory:
Toon link (Link clone)
Falco (Fox clone)
Wolf (Fox clone)
Ganondorf (Captain Falcon clone)
Luigi (Half mario clone)
Lucas (Ness clone)
So far, as far as I know, there is no CONFIRMED clone characters, just theorized ones.
Quote from: Shujinco on February 07, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
From theory:
Toon link (Link clone)
Falco (Fox clone)
Wolf (Fox clone)
Ganondorf (Captain Falcon clone)
Luigi (Half mario clone)
Lucas (Ness clone)
So far, as far as I know, there is no CONFIRMED clone characters, just theorized ones.
They all have slight differences, but they are all basically clones.
Quote from: Cornwad on February 07, 2008, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on February 07, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
From theory:
Toon link (Link clone)
Falco (Fox clone)
Wolf (Fox clone)
Ganondorf (Captain Falcon clone)
Luigi (Half mario clone)
Lucas (Ness clone)
So far, as far as I know, there is no CONFIRMED clone characters, just theorized ones.
They all have slight differences, but they are all basically clones.
Couldn't have said it better myself. ;D
they are part clones
i like them though
The only thing different about the "clones" is the animations. Overall, it's the same general attack.
Quote from: Java_Java on February 07, 2008, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 07, 2008, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on February 07, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
From theory:
Toon link (Link clone)
Falco (Fox clone)
Wolf (Fox clone)
Ganondorf (Captain Falcon clone)
Luigi (Half mario clone)
Lucas (Ness clone)
So far, as far as I know, there is no CONFIRMED clone characters, just theorized ones.
They all have slight differences, but they are all basically clones.
Couldn't have said it better myself. ;D
No, these are from THEORY, that means we only THINK they are clones.
Except Lucas, whom is a confirmed Ness clone.
Do we really know any of the movesets of the above, besides lucas?
Quote from: Shujinco on February 07, 2008, 10:28:06 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on February 07, 2008, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 07, 2008, 03:13:43 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on February 07, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
From theory:
Toon link (Link clone)
Falco (Fox clone)
Wolf (Fox clone)
Ganondorf (Captain Falcon clone)
Luigi (Half mario clone)
Lucas (Ness clone)
So far, as far as I know, there is no CONFIRMED clone characters, just theorized ones.
They all have slight differences, but they are all basically clones.
Couldn't have said it better myself. ;D
No, these are from THEORY, that means we only THINK they are clones.
Except Lucas, whom is a confirmed Ness clone.
Do we really know any of the movesets of the above, besides lucas?
If you watched gameplay videos, then yes.
Falco= clone; has A moves but the same B moves (with slight differences) and FS as Fox
Ganondorf= clone; not sure about A moves but has the same B moves as Captain Falcon (with slight differences)
Wolf= clone; not sure about A moves, but has the same B moves (with slight differences) and FS as Fox
Lucas= clone; has different A moves but has the same B moves and FS (with slight differences) as Ness
Toon Link= 100% clone; has all the same A moves, B moves (with slight differences), and FS as Link
Luigi= NOT CLONE; has two similar B moves to Mario, but the other B moves, all his A moves, and his FS are unique
Lucario= NOt CLONE; some people think he's a Mewtwo clone, but he's not: he has one similar B move and a few similar A moves, but that's it
Please note that the "slight differences" do not deny them from being a clone; Wolf's blaster is stronger than Fox's, Toon Link's Boomerang doesn't cause tornadoes, and Lucas' FS goes straight down while Ness' goes diagonally to the sides, but they're still all clones.
Also, A moves and Stats don't mean anything; if they have more or less the same B moves (and probably FS) then they're technically a clone.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on February 08, 2008, 04:27:04 AM
Falco= clone; has A moves but the same B moves (with slight differences) and FS as Fox
Ganondorf= clone; not sure about A moves but has the same B moves as Captain Falcon (with slight differences)
Wolf= clone; not sure about A moves, but has the same B moves (with slight differences) and FS as Fox
Lucas= clone; has different A moves but has the same B moves and FS (with slight differences) as Ness
Toon Link= 100% clone; has all the same A moves, B moves (with slight differences), and FS as Link
Luigi= NOT CLONE; has two similar B moves to Mario, but the other B moves, all his A moves, and his FS are unique
Lucario= NOt CLONE; some people think he's a Mewtwo clone, but he's not: he has one similar B move and a few similar A moves, but that's it
Please note that the "slight differences" do not deny them from being a clone; Wolf's blaster is stronger than Fox's, Toon Link's Boomerang doesn't cause tornadoes, and Lucas' FS goes straight down while Ness' goes diagonally to the sides, but they're still all clones.
Also, A moves and Stats don't mean anything; if they have more or less the same B moves (and probably FS) then they're technically a clone.
I agree. Lucario isn't a clone, because Mewtwo isn't there to claim his moveset has been stolen ;)
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that
completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 03:04:57 PM
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Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
u just don't get it. shut up and watch some f*uckin' videos of Ganondorf and toon link on youtube.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 03:12:11 PM
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Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
u just don't get it. shut up and watch some f*uckin' videos of Ganondorf and toon link on youtube.
Woah there. No need to talk like that.
I've already watched videos... they are just as much clones as they were in Melee. In case you havn't noticed, Fox and Falco, Falcon and Ganon, and Link and Y.Link wern't exactly the exact same thing. They arn't in Brawl either, but they are still clones.
just forget it. if u want to think there are clones that's fine. i know and believe the truth!
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 03:04:57 PM
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Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:55:25 PM
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Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 03:20:05 PM
just forget it. if u want to think there are clones that's fine. i know and believe the truth!
If they have similar moves, they are clones. Link and Toon Link nearly the same moves, they just have different speed, power, height, and jumping abilities. Kinda like how Link and Y. Link were just a little different in Melee. If you want to think there are no clones that's fine. I know and belive the truth!
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Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 03:25:16 PM
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Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Who says clones make the game worse? I was one of the people who wasn't mad about the 35 roster... Clones were in Melee, and people have been playing it for years. And there are clones.
Quote from: Cornwad on February 08, 2008, 03:26:41 PM
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Quote from: tibar7 on February 08, 2008, 02:22:35 PM
how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Who says clones make the game worse? I was one of the people who wasn't mad about the 35 roster... Clones were in Melee, and people have been playing it for years. And there are clones.
clones make it seem like there's a lesser amount of characters and there are no characters that have the same exact movesets. there's a difference.
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how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Who says clones make the game worse? I was one of the people who wasn't mad about the 35 roster... Clones were in Melee, and people have been playing it for years. And there are clones.
clones make it seem like there's a lesser amount of characters and there are no characters that have the same exact movesets. there's a difference.
So according to you... Ganon wasn't a clone in Melee? He didn't have the exact same moves as C. Falcon >_>
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how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Who says clones make the game worse? I was one of the people who wasn't mad about the 35 roster... Clones were in Melee, and people have been playing it for years. And there are clones.
clones make it seem like there's a lesser amount of characters and there are no characters that have the same exact movesets. there's a difference.
So according to you... Ganon wasn't a clone in Melee? He didn't have the exact same moves as C. Falcon >_>
ganon was clone in melee, but not in brawl. sigh, i give up
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how much do i have to f*ckin' tell everyone?
there's are no clones in brawl!
That would be true, if it wern't for the fact that there are quite a few clones ::)
a clone is a playable character that completely has the same moveset as another character.
ex in melee: falco to fox, pichu to pikachu.
if u go on youtube u can see most of wolf's moves are different from fox's. falco has a few different moves from fox. lucas has pk freeze instead of ness's pk crush plus he has his own rope snake. and toon link has some different moves from link as well. just cuz they have the same final smash dosen't mean they're clones.
You mean like how Y. Link wasn't a clone of Link because he had fire arrows, and Ganondorf wasn't a clone because his Strong >A was different than Falcons?
no toon link was from WindWaker game and will have his own weapons from that game. if u see ganon fight in brawl on you tube his move set has changed the most out of anybody's.
Yep, instead of using the Clawshot, Hero's Bow, Gale Boomerang, Spin Attack, and Bomb, Toon Link uses the Hookshot, Bow, Boomerange, Spin Attack, and Bomb.
Not to mention instead of using Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, and Raptor Boost, Ganondorf now uses Warlock Punch, Wizard's Foot, Dark Dive, and Gerudo Dragon.
Exactly. I don't care if the range, look, or power of the move is different. If it has a similar moveset with moves performed like the move of their original, it's a clone. Luigi is an exception with his different styles.
it must suck to be someone who makes this game sound worse than it is. this game will be the best ever and there are no clones.
Who says clones make the game worse? I was one of the people who wasn't mad about the 35 roster... Clones were in Melee, and people have been playing it for years. And there are clones.
clones make it seem like there's a lesser amount of characters and there are no characters that have the same exact movesets. there's a difference.
So according to you... Ganon wasn't a clone in Melee? He didn't have the exact same moves as C. Falcon >_>
ganon was clone in melee, but not in brawl. sigh, i give up
But you just said none of the characters in Brawl have identical movesets, so none of them are clones. Ganon's moveset was not identical to Falcon's in Melee ::)
Tibar = Idiot :|
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
Good for Marth, bad for Ganon =(
FE got screwed big time.
So did Metroid.
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
Good for Marth, bad for Ganon =(
FE got screwed big time.
So did Metroid.
And sakurai said he likes FE and wanted more Metroid reps...while we get a secondary character and Ike to replace Roy...
I just wanna know what happened to Sigurd...he was supposed to be in Smash 1!!!
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
Good for Marth, bad for Ganon =(
FE got screwed big time.
So did Metroid.
And sakurai said he likes FE and wanted more Metroid reps...while we get a secondary character and Ike to replace Roy...
I just wanna know what happened to Sigurd...he was supposed to be in Smash 1!!!
Have they gotten the "You have unlocked all characters!" message yet?
Im not sure, put the really pi**** me off.
And i would hvae bet money on Ridley.... ahh well....
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
What makes you think he's gotten worse? He looks faster now.
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
What makes you think he's gotten worse? He looks faster now.
His moves at least... his run seems to be worse practically and graphically. >_>
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
He was my second main in Melee, and they ruined him! My two main dissappointments character wise:
1. The good characters barely got nerfed. Fox and Marth are as good as ever, perhaps even better. Not to mention Wolf seems to be too powerful for his own good, and he's based of Fox
2. Clones still in. In fact, they made Ganondorf worse!
What makes you think he's gotten worse? He looks faster now.
His moves at least... his run seems to be worse practically and graphically. >_>
He seemed faster when I saw him on a video.
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
okay i admit that young link is a clone. but i have seen that ganon's moveset is much different in brawl than it was in melee.
ganon has gotten better graphically. they're using his model from Twighlight Princess
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
okay i admit that young link is a clone. but i have seen that ganon's moveset is much different in brawl than it was in melee.
You fail =|
AXE'D
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ganon has gotten better graphically. they're using his model from Twighlight Princess
And Toon Link comes from Wind Waker.
Remember though, most of those spoilers were from the reviewer's version, correct if I'm wrong, but reviewer's versions don't have everything on the game?
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Remember though, most of those spoilers were from the reviewer's version, correct if I'm wrong, but reviewer's versions don't have everything on the game?
Even if they don't, the Japanese versions do.
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Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
okay i admit that young link is a clone. but i have seen that ganon's moveset is much different in brawl than it was in melee.
You fail =|
AXE'D
what does that mean?
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Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on February 08, 2008, 04:09:20 PM
Tibar = Idiot :|
how can he say there are no clones? There are at least two full clones in this game (four total clones if you count Falco and Wolf, which I don't since other than the annoyingly same FS, they're pretty different).
Toon Link = why bother at this point. Seriously, we don't need two links, even if one is cel shaded and the other isn't .Unless he's completely origional (which, how could he in any way?) he's dead weight.
Ganondorf = WHY THE HELL DOES SAKURAI HATE THIS GUY!? Making him the same as a character in a completely seperate franchise and moves that don't fit him! I don't remember dorf using hand to hand combat, he uses a sword and magic! They even use his sword in his taunt! Why won't they give it too him! His slowness and terrible recovery more than warrant a longer reach
Thats my one disappointment besides Hector...
I cant believe Gdorf stayed the same...
okay i admit that young link is a clone. but i have seen that ganon's moveset is much different in brawl than it was in melee.
You fail =|
AXE'D
what does that mean?
Nothing good . . . (shudders)
ENOUGH CRAP PLEASE!
YOU FAIL =|
AXE'D
Is a good example of this. Enough >:(
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
But Falco is a different story.
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
wolf throws his reflector out in front of him like a boomerang and it comes back.
Quote from: WaterGod on February 09, 2008, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
wolf throws his reflector out in front of him like a boomerang and it comes back.
Thats Falco :P
Quote from: Cornwad on February 09, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: WaterGod on February 09, 2008, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
wolf throws his reflector out in front of him like a boomerang and it comes back.
Thats Falco :P
Also, Falco's landmaster has better hovering than the other two. I think Wolf's may have more powerful lasers, but don't take my word for it.
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 07:07:31 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on February 09, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: WaterGod on February 09, 2008, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: missingnomaster on February 09, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
For the few people saying Wolf is a Fox clone, he's not.
His blaster, while I'm not sure what exactly is different about it, it definitely looks more powerful.
his side B Goes up at about a 25 degree angle.
his up B is a jet pack, and is not a clone move at all
his reflector "has blades that fan out" Not sure what that means, but I also heard it is more powerful.
His A moves are very different, but I'm not going to go over them.
wolf throws his reflector out in front of him like a boomerang and it comes back.
Thats Falco :P
Also, Falco's landmaster has better hovering than the other two. I think Wolf's may have more powerful lasers, but don't take my word for it.
Yeah, thats what SmashWiki says anyway...
But Falco is still basically a clone.
Quote from: mackormoses on February 09, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
ENOUGH CRAP PLEASE!
YOU FAIL =|
AXE'D
Is a good example of this. Enough >:(
Bring it Mack....
>:(
=p