My dad stopped to get gas and asked if I could pump it while he goes to pay for it (He payed about 25 bucks). I looked at the price and it was over 4 bucks. After we finished the pumping, he started up the car. And to my surprise, the arrow wasn't even near the half point on the meter. That's some serious crap.
And it sucks cause I'm getting my license next month :(
I'm gonna have to get another job.
Quote from: WaterGod on June 27, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
And it sucks cause I'm getting my license next month :(
I'm gonna have to get another job.
Getting another job to pay for gas?!
This has to stop.
A reason why I'm not getting a car, just a license....
Quote from: WaterGod on June 27, 2008, 06:44:17 PM
And it sucks cause I'm getting my license next month :(
I'm gonna have to get another job.
And you best start saving up.
Where art thou hydroelectric cars?
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
Where art thou hydroelectric cars?
Stopped at the drawing board by big oil.
By the way, Europe has been paying the equivalent of $4 for years.
It's a result of the people of China and India buying more cars than ever before.
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
I still wouldn't rely to much on solar energy.
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
I still wouldn't rely to much on solar energy.
Maybe Ford should look into the Nucleon again...
Or maybe we should make cars that run completely on Ethanol. Of course, Hydrogen power would be great, if more than two stations that had it were built.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
I still wouldn't rely to much on solar energy.
Maybe Ford should look into the Nucleon again...
Or maybe we should make cars that run completely on Ethanol. Of course, Hydrogen power would be great, if more than two stations that had it were built.
Yeah. Hydrogen would most definitely be the best solution out there.
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:15:39 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
I still wouldn't rely to much on solar energy.
Maybe Ford should look into the Nucleon again...
Or maybe we should make cars that run completely on Ethanol. Of course, Hydrogen power would be great, if more than two stations that had it were built.
Yeah. Hydrogen would most definitely be the best solution out there.
Plutonium/Uranium would be good too.
If you could run water through turbines in the car cool and circulate back then we could have endless fuel.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 07:18:04 PM
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Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:03:28 PM
Quote from: SSBBRAWLIN on June 27, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
I was thinking maybe solar powered cars, but then we would be stuck in the middle of no where at night.
It's called storing the solar charge in batteries.
I still wouldn't rely to much on solar energy.
Maybe Ford should look into the Nucleon again...
Or maybe we should make cars that run completely on Ethanol. Of course, Hydrogen power would be great, if more than two stations that had it were built.
Yeah. Hydrogen would most definitely be the best solution out there.
Plutonium/Uranium would be good too.
Isn't Plutonium super strong?
Quote from: Spam on June 27, 2008, 07:19:19 PM
If you could run water through turbines in the car cool and circulate back then we could have endless fuel.
What would power the water through the turbines?
I wonder if you could condense exhaust back into fuel...
Why not have electric cars that recharge themselvesas they drive?
Basicailly, have a battery to get the car going, and have some sort of generator on each of the the 4 wheels that charges the battery and keeps the car going.
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:26:15 PM
Why not have electric cars that recharge themselvesas they drive?
Basicailly, have a battery to get the car going, and have some sort of generator on each of the the 4 wheels that charges the battery and keeps the car going.
Does that qualify as perpetual motion? Where does the car get its initial charge?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:26:15 PM
Why not have electric cars that recharge themselvesas they drive?
Basicailly, have a battery to get the car going, and have some sort of generator on each of the the 4 wheels that charges the battery and keeps the car going.
Does that qualify as perpetual motion? Where does the car get its initial charge?
Lrn2rd
Yep. Many people are starting to live in their small cars because they have no more money to pay for their house, and small cars use less gas.
Why can't we use Alaska again?
i drive a Versa (smallest Nissan car there is) with a CVT (the least gas consumption), and it's still ridiculous.
Yeah, i only have to fill my tank every few weeks, but lately it's hit a major spike. back in January, I could pay $40 to fill my tank. now to fill it not even 2/3rds of the way costs about 50 bucks.
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
It's America's last frontier, the oil that is there isn't worth sacrificing the beauty of the land.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
It's America's last frontier, the oil that is there isn't worth sacrificing the beauty of the land.
As if an underground pipe would do anything.
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 09:13:04 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 09:11:08 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
It's America's last frontier, the oil that is there isn't worth sacrificing the beauty of the land.
As if an underground pipe would do anything.
You still have to build oil wells.
they'll go down, or at least stay steady for a while once the Grand Banks pipelines are up.
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
This is why I learned how to run at speeds of up to 122 mph.
Quote from: Lavamania on June 27, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
This is why I learned how to run at speeds of up to 122 mph.
do you carry a flux capacitor on you?
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: Lavamania on June 27, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
This is why I learned how to run at speeds of up to 122 mph.
do you carry a flux capacitor on you?
How can he generate the necessary 1.21 Gigawatts just by running?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 09:43:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: Lavamania on June 27, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
This is why I learned how to run at speeds of up to 122 mph.
do you carry a flux capacitor on you?
How can he generate the necessary 1.21 Gigawatts just by running?
by the friction created with the shoes against the pavement, the gravity from in his shoes when they're falling to the ground, the arm pumping, and heat from the sun magnified.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 09:46:25 PM
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Quote from: Lavamania on June 27, 2008, 09:40:57 PM
This is why I learned how to run at speeds of up to 122 mph.
do you carry a flux capacitor on you?
How can he generate the necessary 1.21 Gigawatts just by running?
by the friction created with the shoes against the pavement, the gravity from in his shoes when they're falling to the ground, the arm pumping, and heat from the sun magnified.
And if you need gas, just get a bean burrito.
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
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Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
Revolution, I don't think you understand economics. You live in the US. You base things on the market economy. Supply and Demand. Laissez Faire.
Therefore, if people get off their asses, and stop driving as much, or demand that hybrids becomes available to them, the large companies have no choice but to comply, or they die. It is simple economics, and maybe it is because I am a tried and true capitalist, but that's how things work. Hence GM, for instance, closing down four truck plants in the last little while (well, announcing their closure.)
Things balance out by voting with your dollar. By not supporting oil, you support the end of using it. By buying plastics, or driving a vehicle, you have no right to ninny,
Quote from: mackormoses on June 27, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
Revolution, I don't think you understand economics. You live in the US. You base things on the market economy. Supply and Demand. Laissez Faire.
Therefore, if people get off their asses, and stop driving as much, or demand that hybrids becomes available to them, the large companies have no choice but to comply, or they die. It is simple economics, and maybe it is because I am a tried and true capitalist, but that's how things work. Hence GM, for instance, closing down four truck plants in the last little while (well, announcing their closure.)
Things balance out by voting with your dollar. By not supporting oil, you support the end of using it. By buying plastics, or driving a vehicle, you have no right to b****,
Ya I know that is how thins basically work but if we switched to a different sources of energy for our cars the oil company would be out a lot of money. They would try to stop the new source of energy from becoming available. One way they do this is by buying the right of a car (for example) that need no gas. Say this way invited by a gay in his garage and the oil company's made him an offer he could not refuse What do you think will happen?
Quote from: mackormoses on June 27, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
Revolution, I don't think you understand economics. You live in the US. You base things on the market economy. Supply and Demand. Laissez Faire.
Therefore, if people get off their asses, and stop driving as much, or demand that hybrids becomes available to them, the large companies have no choice but to comply, or they die. It is simple economics, and maybe it is because I am a tried and true capitalist, but that's how things work. Hence GM, for instance, closing down four truck plants in the last little while (well, announcing their closure.)
Things balance out by voting with your dollar. By not supporting oil, you support the end of using it. By buying plastics, or driving a vehicle, you have no right to ninny,
I'm just glad that the government is requiring all models of cars and trucks made after 2008 to get at least 25 to the gallon, which basically rules out Hummers.
I don't care what gays invite into their garage.
Quote from: mackormoses on June 27, 2008, 10:46:46 PM
I don't care what gays invite into their garage.
Lol'd.
Think gas is insane? Try paying for diesel or kerosene. Last time I checked it was $4.86 for the diesel... and that's the absolute best I can find...
Also, not every station around here has it, so.. that kinda sucks..
But my car will burn anything.. anything is an alternative fuel for me...
My car's sucked down the following.. sometimes alone or in combination... gasoline, diesel, diesel additive, kerosene, water, expensive extra virgin olive oil, leftover Asian vegetable oil, leftover fast food vegetable oil.. and who knows what else. >_>
3.69 is our price
$5 bucks a gallon for gas here in Southern California. D:
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
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Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
Actually, electic cars already fill the avg. daily driving requirments for over 80% of america's population (the other twenty mostly being truckers and the like). But car companies refuse to make them...cuz they don't want to lose their pals in the oil industry.
We do need to change to SOMETHING, or else Cecil is right, long distance will be a thing of the past.
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Here's why the should:
1. A better option for the consumers
2. The Oil will one day run dry regardless weather or not will drill of short it won't last for ever.
3. We will have to eventually switch to something and unlike hydrogen full cell cars eclectic cars won't require tens or hundreds of thousands new fueling stations across the US.
4. Gas Prices
bohoo
If you don't like it take the bus.
Quote from: ME86 on June 28, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
bohoo
If you don't like it take the bus.
that's not available to everyone you know
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 28, 2008, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Here's why the should:
1. A better option for the consumers
2. The Oil will one day run dry regardless weather or not will drill of short it won't last for ever.
3. We will have to eventually switch to something and unlike hydrogen full cell cars eclectic cars won't require tens or hundreds of thousands new fueling stations across the US.
4. Gas Prices
no government really cares about the environment.
They don't care how low on oil they are as long as they sell it and are left with the most money so they can all die happy knowing they had the most money.
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
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Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:26:15 PM
Why not have electric cars that recharge themselvesas they drive?
Basicailly, have a battery to get the car going, and have some sort of generator on each of the the 4 wheels that charges the battery and keeps the car going.
Does that qualify as perpetual motion? Where does the car get its initial charge?
Lrn2rd
Dude, I had the exact same idea. But use even more of the cars moving parts (like the AC fan) to get even more charge. Also using regenative braking would help, too. That way, fuel would never be needed.
I even thought of a pure permanent magnet motor. But the flaw in that is the magnets eventually de-magnetize...
If there's ever another alternative fuel, it'd be either ethanol (even though it isn't as efficient as gasoline or diesel) or hydrogen (get more hydrogen stations d*** it!).
Besides, the only way to effectively reduce gas prices is to start drilling off shore. It's just that the d*** Democrat's (who are funded by environmentalist b******s who only want to see the world economies get blown apart) don't agree with it and say "there's environmantal implications to it", and yet CHINA is drilling where we could be drilling. They're getting money off our congress's (more like the Democrats) stupidity. And besides, drilling technology and practices has made the process cleaner and more efficient. Geez.
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.
Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:
1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
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Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
I don't deny the possibility either, to tell you the truth... :-[
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.
Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:
1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
1. That has nothing to do with the fuel stuff
2. It's called marketing dumbasses
3. Depends on the type of car. Electric sedan is less expensive than a huge Hummer
4. And yet people spend $40000+ for a new BMW...so I don't know what you're talking about.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.
Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:
1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
I may cost more to make a electric car but that true about every new thing that comes out. The first cell phone were huge you needed a bag pack for them and there were about 4 grand and that was when the dollar was munch stronger. Now the iphone Phone is about 4 hundred. Prices drop over time.
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
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Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
There's enough oil in ANWR, the gulf, Colorado, etc. for the USA to sustain itself for about ten years. So if we take some of that, and some from other countries, and ration it out for a while while we figure out a realistic alternative then yes, oil could save humanity from a crisis.
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 28, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
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Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
I don't deny the possibility either, to tell you the truth... :-[
what's a sail boat lol
Quote from: Nayrman on June 28, 2008, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.
Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:
1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
1. That has nothing to do with the fuel stuff
2. It's called marketing dumbasses
3. Depends on the type of car. Electric sedan is less expensive than a huge Hummer
4. And yet people spend $40000+ for a new BMW...so I don't know what you're talking about.
it makes total sense. the people who can afford $40,000 for a new BMW are the people who aren't really affected by rising gas prices. the people who can't afford rising gas prices can't afford to spend money on an electric car either.
Well, apperently in Japan they're making a water powered car. No joke. Well, I heard and saw it on Youtube so, it could be. But anyways, I hope it's real.
But about the gas prices right now, they are murder. One of these days they're going to charge an arm and a leg, for a gallon.
I quite agree. The gas prices have been changing to a ridiculous ammount every month or so, and It doesn't seem like It'll be stopping soon.
I remember something about brazil working on an alternative method to replace gas. Hopefully SOME Method comes up to replace gas If gas prices can't get lowered.
Quote from: Totla on June 28, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
There's enough oil in ANWR, the gulf, Colorado, etc. for the USA to sustain itself for about ten years. So if we take some of that, and some from other countries, and ration it out for a while while we figure out a realistic alternative then yes, oil could save humanity from a crisis.Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 28, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.
so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
I don't deny the possibility either, to tell you the truth... :-[
what's a sail boat lol
Widespread, long-distance travel in nothing but sailboats is unrealistic.
Buy a hybrid. Not Toyota though. I think every 5 years or 100,000 miles the battery has to be replaced at the cost of $6,000.
Quit you're complaining. In Canada, it's almost 140 a litre
Quote from: Chaos on June 28, 2008, 03:56:20 PM
Well, apperently in Japan they're making a water powered car. No joke. Well, I heard and saw it on Youtube so, it could be. But anyways, I hope it's real.
But about the gas prices right now, they are murder. One of these days they're going to charge an arm and a leg, for a gallon.
An American all ready invented a water powered car. Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU)
It was added in 2006 so I wonder why we don't see them out now. I bet the oil company's made him an offer we can't refuse. Any way I think we wast to munch water as it is. We need to use less of it. Also water vapor is also a green house gas. In fact to munch water vapor is worse than CO2 in the atmosphere.
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 28, 2008, 07:50:43 PM
Quote from: Chaos on June 28, 2008, 03:56:20 PM
Well, apperently in Japan they're making a water powered car. No joke. Well, I heard and saw it on Youtube so, it could be. But anyways, I hope it's real.
But about the gas prices right now, they are murder. One of these days they're going to charge an arm and a leg, for a gallon.
An American all ready invented a water powered car. Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rb_rDkwGnU)
It was added in 2006 so I wonder why we don't see them out now. I bet the oil company's made him an offer we can't refuse. Any way I think we wast to munch water as it is. We need to use less of it. Also water vaper is also a green house gas. In fact to munch water vaper is worse than CO2 in the atmosphere.
I would believe some of this if you could properly spell vapor.
It's all about money these days. But see, if we use water as fuel, won't we have money to use on other things as well? Like not just for common people, but for the government too. Such as war supplies as we are spending enough for it right now, new technology, and pretty much anything we can improve on. But then again, there's probably a deeper story to this.
Quote from: Chaos on June 28, 2008, 08:02:20 PM
It's all about money these days. But see, if we use water as fuel, won't we have money to use on other things as well? Like not just for common people, but for the government too. Such as war supplies as we are spending enough for it right now, new technology, and pretty much anything we can improve on. But then again, there's probably a deeper story to this.
i agree its always about money...#___#
The price will only keep rising.
Humanity has used Gasoline powered cars for nearly a century now, and we're not done yet. Alternative fuel sources have been found, but they're not as effective. Electric Cars cost more than than most expensive cars nowadays, so it's basically not a choice to 9/10 of the Worlds population.
Humanity can't give up Gasoline for some obvious reasons:
-Everyone already uses Gasoline powered cars, so it'd be insanely hard to just stop all of a sudden.
-Oil companies know that the public will pay for it, so, why not make some extra cash while you're at it?
-Other fuel methods have not been successfully developed.
-Legs? What are these "Legs" you speak of?
-Car>Bike>Scooter
-Cars and Airplanes can carry up to twice their weight because of the engines.
Now, there has been successful vehicles tested to use less gas and emit less greenhouse gases, such as hybrids, and some cars that don't emit any type of exhaust at all, electric cars.
Humanity isn't ready for the change to non-gas powered vehicles...but that'll change not too soon. Before you know it, we'll have pumped the earth dry.
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Just saying, the oil companies more than likely hold the patent for Hydrogen-Powered cars.
Quote from: Byte on June 28, 2008, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Just saying, the oil companies more than likely hold the patent for Hydrogen-Powered cars.
Oh, god. If they do, it'd take a Bill Gates fortune to buy it off their hands.
Quote from: red7js on June 29, 2008, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: Byte on June 28, 2008, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:
1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.
VROOM VROOM.
Just saying, the oil companies more than likely hold the patent for Hydrogen-Powered cars.
Oh, god. If they do, it'd take a Bill Gates fortune to buy it off their hands.
I think he just retired >_>