I don't know why, but someone randomly sent me a pm stating the following:
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 12:56:37 PM
Hey, Mack, Ridley would not work as a playable character in a smash bros game.
Oh, oops, forgot to remove their name. :x
As we are, I don't know what this PM stems from, but I don't care.....just prove him wrong, my good sirs.
Ridley could work as a character.
However his moveset and playability would be like using a master hand spin off.
he would have innovative and unique moves however it could be very difficult to use him.
He could work as a character and he would be an enjoyable one
But I cant see it happening X_X
Ridley can be a playable character because... well why CAN'T he be a playable character?
If they can make a moveset for R.O.B., they can make one for Ridley.... if they can resize Olimar, they can resize Ridley. Metroid needs more reps anyway.
The only reason I can think of why he shouldn't be playable is because Sakurai said he would be very big and slow in an interview with NP...
...Baby Ridley would do fine; as long as Baby Mario, Peach and the others are out...
...That takes care of the size...
...You guys do the rest...
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
Ridley can be a playable character because... well why CAN'T he be a playable character?
If they can make a moveset for R.O.B., they can make one for Ridley.... if they can resize Olimar, they can resize Ridley. Metroid needs more reps anyway.
The only reason I can think of why he shouldn't be playable is because Sakurai said he would be very big and slow in an interview with NP...
Just like Bowser.
There's a line dividing those who endorse Ridley for Brawl, and those who don't. I stand on the line.
Quote from: Allegretto on July 02, 2008, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
Ridley can be a playable character because... well why CAN'T he be a playable character?
If they can make a moveset for R.O.B., they can make one for Ridley.... if they can resize Olimar, they can resize Ridley. Metroid needs more reps anyway.
The only reason I can think of why he shouldn't be playable is because Sakurai said he would be very big and slow in an interview with NP...
Just like Bowser.
No, Bowser is a either little bigger or a few inches bigger than Mario, depending on the game. It's easy to fit Bowser in here. Same for Dedede.
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on July 02, 2008, 03:06:40 PM
There's a line dividing those who endorse Ridley for Brawl, and those who don't. I stand on the line.
Quote from: Allegretto on July 02, 2008, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
Ridley can be a playable character because... well why CAN'T he be a playable character?
If they can make a moveset for R.O.B., they can make one for Ridley.... if they can resize Olimar, they can resize Ridley. Metroid needs more reps anyway.
The only reason I can think of why he shouldn't be playable is because Sakurai said he would be very big and slow in an interview with NP...
Just like Bowser.
No, Bowser is a either little bigger or a few inches bigger than Mario, depending on the game. It's easy to fit Bowser in here. Same for Dedede.
But Bowser is still very big and slow... just like Ridley would be :P
Oh... and Bowser is much bigger than Mario a lot of the time...
[spoiler](http://www.virtualfools.com/filler/videogames/j01bowser.jpg)
(http://www.bowsershrine.com/Images/Info/Screens/bowsersunshine.jpg)
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And Ridley isn't big at all here :D
(http://www.emulationgalaxy.co.yu/images/edit/metroid/metroid_1.gif)
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: MasterYoungLink on July 02, 2008, 03:06:40 PM
There's a line dividing those who endorse Ridley for Brawl, and those who don't. I stand on the line.
Quote from: Allegretto on July 02, 2008, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 02:33:45 PM
Ridley can be a playable character because... well why CAN'T he be a playable character?
If they can make a moveset for R.O.B., they can make one for Ridley.... if they can resize Olimar, they can resize Ridley. Metroid needs more reps anyway.
The only reason I can think of why he shouldn't be playable is because Sakurai said he would be very big and slow in an interview with NP...
Just like Bowser.
No, Bowser is a either little bigger or a few inches bigger than Mario, depending on the game. It's easy to fit Bowser in here. Same for Dedede.
But Bowser is still very big and slow... just like Ridley would be :P
Oh... and Bowser is much bigger than Mario a lot of the time...
[spoiler](http://www.virtualfools.com/filler/videogames/j01bowser.jpg)
(http://www.bowsershrine.com/Images/Info/Screens/bowsersunshine.jpg)
[/spoiler]
And Ridley isn't big at all here :D
(http://www.emulationgalaxy.co.yu/images/edit/metroid/metroid_1.gif)
you win.
Hey I got the same pm. ;D Anyway Charizard is all you need and some size arguements.
I am just saying that he wouldn't work very well because it would require an immense amount of time to make him work and that is a pretty huge waste of time, I guess what i meant to say, was he would never be in brawl, i was aware he was small in original metroid at the time. so stop ignoring me mack please, i want you to put my sig in my profile, but i tried and the correct BBcode i put in would not work!
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:28:48 PM
I am just saying that he wouldn't work very well because it would require an immense amount of time to make him work and that is a pretty huge waste of time, I guess what i meant to say, was he would never be in brawl, i was aware he was small in original metroid at the time. so stop ignoring me mack please, i want you to put my sig in my profile, but i tried and the correct BBcode i put in would not work!
Wouldn't any character take a huge amount of time? They couldn't have come up with R.O.B. and G&W easily either O_O
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:28:48 PM
I am just saying that he wouldn't work very well because it would require an immense amount of time to make him work and that is a pretty huge waste of time, I guess what i meant to say, was he would never be in brawl, i was aware he was small in original metroid at the time. so stop ignoring me mack please, i want you to put my sig in my profile, but i tried and the correct BBcode i put in would not work!
Wouldn't any character take a huge amount of time? They couldn't have come up with R.O.B. and G&W easily either O_O
He would take an especially huge amount of time!
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:28:48 PM
I am just saying that he wouldn't work very well because it would require an immense amount of time to make him work and that is a pretty huge waste of time, I guess what i meant to say, was he would never be in brawl, i was aware he was small in original metroid at the time. so stop ignoring me mack please, i want you to put my sig in my profile, but i tried and the correct BBcode i put in would not work!
Wouldn't any character take a huge amount of time? They couldn't have come up with R.O.B. and G&W easily either O_O
He would take an especially huge amount of time!
Why? He appears in a lot of games, more than R.O.B. and Ness, Lucas, Pit, among others. Just because a character is big isn't a reason for the character to take an extra long time to make :P
Fuck, a tetris block could work as a character.
argue importance of Ridley.
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 02, 2008, 07:37:58 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 02, 2008, 07:28:48 PM
I am just saying that he wouldn't work very well because it would require an immense amount of time to make him work and that is a pretty huge waste of time, I guess what i meant to say, was he would never be in brawl, i was aware he was small in original metroid at the time. so stop ignoring me mack please, i want you to put my sig in my profile, but i tried and the correct BBcode i put in would not work!
Wouldn't any character take a huge amount of time? They couldn't have come up with R.O.B. and G&W easily either O_O
He would take an especially huge amount of time!
Why? He appears in a lot of games, more than R.O.B. and Ness, Lucas, Pit, among others. Just because a character is big isn't a reason for the character to take an extra long time to make :P
That is not what i meant and this isn't about the importance of ridley, and i meant he woulp be too complex!
By know your putting your foot in your mouth dude. You might want to stop.
Also, I can't see a slow Ridley. I just fought him again on Super Metroid and he isn't THAT slow. I would say Large character Medium strength with strong Air attacks.
Quote from: MagnumSonic on July 02, 2008, 09:02:11 PM
By know your putting your foot in your mouth dude. You might want to stop.
Also, I can't see a slow Ridley. I just fought him again on Super Metroid and he isn't THAT slow. I would say Large character Medium strength with strong Air attacks.
I would say he should be slowish on the ground (not too slow though), but fast in the air.
Ridley has wings. If he's walking, then he's probably gonna be slow, but to dash, he can sort of glide slightly above the ground. I believe Charizard follows a similar mechanism. Of course, Ridley would have multiple jumps and flying capabilities, and almost anyone could make up a decent moveset for him. Why should he take any longer to program into a game than any other character? He's no more complex than Charizard or Metaknight. Besides, Metroid needs a new character.
Okay, he is a possible character
I guess i am just against ridley, i think we need one of the hunters like Sylux instaed!
Quote from: mario59 on July 03, 2008, 12:05:40 PM
I guess i am just against ridley, i think we need one of the hunters like Sylux instaed!
Why would we need a hunter? Ridley has been in practically every Metroid game. (Was he ever not in one?)
Quote from: Java_Java on July 03, 2008, 01:34:42 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 03, 2008, 12:05:40 PM
I guess i am just against ridley, i think we need one of the hunters like Sylux instaed!
Why would we need a hunter? Ridley has been in practically every Metroid game. (Was he ever not in one?)
Metroid II, Metroid Prime II, and Hunters. But Samus is the only character to appear in more games :O
Yeah, he'd basically be a combination of how they worked Bowser and Charizard in, and huge flying dragon toned down a bit.
Quote from: Ridley on July 02, 2008, 04:26:55 PM
Hey I got the same pm. ;D Anyway Charizard is all you need and some size arguements.
Charizard is about 6 feet tall, last time I checked. Not much bigger than Ivysaur.
I don't see how he couldn't work. He'd have to be about the size as he was in the original Metroid though. :P
OK, for all of you people that said "lol charizards a fukin hooooooooooooooje dargon", Charizard is 5 feet, 7 inches.
Not much taller than an average human. The reason that Ridley is small in the original Metroid, is because everything was small in Metroid. Mother Brain was only about 2 1/2 Samus's...
It would be nice to have another Metroid rep, but it would more than likely be a darned clone, because that's how Smash works. Sakurai being gone might change that, who knows. Dark Samus or a Hunter are the most likely choices.
Quote from: Byte on July 04, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
OK, for all of you people that said "lol charizards a fukin hooooooooooooooje dargon", Charizard is 5 feet, 7 inches.
Not much taller than an average human. The reason that Ridley is small in the original Metroid, is because everything was small in Metroid. Mother Brain was only about 2 1/2 Samus's...
It would be nice to have another Metroid rep, but it would more than likely be a danged clone, because that's how Smash works. Sakurai being gone might change that, who knows. Dark Samus or a Hunter are the most likely choices.
I think the point is that a dragon-like character can work in Smash Bros :P
The size doesn't matter, they can re size Ridley :D
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
He never said he can't work, he just said he'd have to be really slow :P
Quote from: Cornwad on July 04, 2008, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
He never said he can't work, he just said he'd have to be really slow :P
Which is total BS.
Laziness to the extreme...
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 04, 2008, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
He never said he can't work, he just said he'd have to be really slow :P
Which is total BS.
Laziness to the extreme...
yeah he actually laughed when asked about ridley?
there was an interview about it in "i want to say" nintendo power
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 04, 2008, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
He never said he can't work, he just said he'd have to be really slow :P
Which is total BS.
Laziness to the extreme...
yeah he actually laughed when asked about ridley?
there was an interview about it in "i want to say" nintendo power
He never said he couldn't be in, he just said he would be slow :P
In that same interview. I wouldn't mind a slow Ridley. It would be like Charizard :O
Quote from: Cornwad on July 04, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 09:16:23 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 09:02:56 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 04, 2008, 08:53:37 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 04, 2008, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Apollo on July 04, 2008, 08:20:32 PM
no ridley couldnt work so i wouldnt argue THAT for you.
i love to argue but when Sakurai laughs at the idea, then Ridley has no chance
So what? Just because Sakurai doesn't think Ridley can't work, means that he can't work?
He never said he can't work, he just said he'd have to be really slow :P
Which is total BS.
Laziness to the extreme...
yeah he actually laughed when asked about ridley?
there was an interview about it in "i want to say" nintendo power
He never said he couldn't be in, he just said he would be slow :P
In that same interview. I wouldn't mind a slow Ridley. It would be like Charizard :O
Perhaps charizard was supposed to be ridley but was too suckish to be a single character :P
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
Quote from: Java_Java on July 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
If you count each transformation of characters as a character you get 40 :O
I was just about to say the same thing. Pikmin is a Miyamoto franchise, so Olimar automatically deserves to be there :P
And at this point I think its obvious why the retro characters like Pit and the ICs are in Brawl:
Both of their games have Eggplants in them ;D
maybe another reason why Ridley didnt get in is because he was needed for subspace
why alter a character so much in order to make him playable?
ridley fit into sse so easily and was a great boss
THE END
Quote from: Apollo on July 05, 2008, 03:50:52 PM
maybe another reason why Ridley didnt get in is because he was needed for subspace
why alter a character so much in order to make him playable?
ridley fit into sse so easily and was a great boss
THE END
Like R.O.B. was :D
But he wasn't a boss... :(
Oh well, there is always Smash 4
Quote from: Java_Java on July 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
I didn't say that Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers didn't deserve to be there, I said that those others I listed deserved it more. And in terms of whether or not something deserves to be in Smash, I never count their contributions to the Smash games: for example, NOW that Ice Climbers have already been in, there's no way they could go, but if they had never been in Smash in the first place, no one would be complaining "Popo and Nana should have been in Brawl as a team!!!" Meanwhile, we've got tons of Krystal, Ridley, Ray 01, and even Deoxys fans that Sakurai completely ignored. Also, on a less relevant note, why did Silver get an appearance in a level, and Rouge didn't even get a trophy?!? Rouge is way more important to the Sonic series than Silver, or Blaze for that matter (both of whom, by the way, got their own trophies)!
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
I didn't say that Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers didn't deserve to be there, I said that those others I listed deserved it more. And in terms of whether or not something deserves to be in Smash, I never count their contributions to the Smash games: for example, NOW that Ice Climbers have already been in, there's no way they could go, but if they had never been in Smash in the first place, no one would be complaining "Popo and Nana should have been in Brawl as a team!!!" Meanwhile, we've got tons of Krystal, Ridley, Ray 01, and even Deoxys fans that Sakurai completely ignored. Also, on a less relevant note, why did Silver get an appearance in a level, and Rouge didn't even get a trophy?!? Rouge is way more important to the Sonic series than Silver, or Blaze for that matter (both of whom, by the way, got their own trophies)!
Eh... Olimar deserved to be in more than any of those people. With the exception of Ray01, all of those characters are just sub-characters in their series. Shouldn't main characters like Olimar and Pit get in before sub characters?
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
I didn't say that Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers didn't deserve to be there, I said that those others I listed deserved it more. And in terms of whether or not something deserves to be in Smash, I never count their contributions to the Smash games: for example, NOW that Ice Climbers have already been in, there's no way they could go, but if they had never been in Smash in the first place, no one would be complaining "Popo and Nana should have been in Brawl as a team!!!" Meanwhile, we've got tons of Krystal, Ridley, Ray 01, and even Deoxys fans that Sakurai completely ignored. Also, on a less relevant note, why did Silver get an appearance in a level, and Rouge didn't even get a trophy?!? Rouge is way more important to the Sonic series than Silver, or Blaze for that matter (both of whom, by the way, got their own trophies)!
Eh... Olimar deserved to be in more than any of those people. With the exception of Ray01, all of those characters are just sub-characters in their series. Shouldn't main characters like Olimar and Pit get in before sub characters?
Olimar: yes
Pit: not sure, seeing as how he only had two games, both of which are really old and not exactly ground-breaking or super famous
But this still doesn't explain why Ray 01 didn't get in as playable: Custom Robo has had more games than Pikmin, it's been out longer than Pikmin, it's newest game is newer than the newest Pikmin, and because of all this, it's probably more popular than Pikmin. And Ray 01's size isn't a problem, seeing as how even though he's only a foot high, he's still 12x taller than Olimar.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 07, 2008, 05:10:52 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:58:40 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on July 05, 2008, 09:21:14 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 05, 2008, 08:53:07 AM
Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
I didn't say that Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers didn't deserve to be there, I said that those others I listed deserved it more. And in terms of whether or not something deserves to be in Smash, I never count their contributions to the Smash games: for example, NOW that Ice Climbers have already been in, there's no way they could go, but if they had never been in Smash in the first place, no one would be complaining "Popo and Nana should have been in Brawl as a team!!!" Meanwhile, we've got tons of Krystal, Ridley, Ray 01, and even Deoxys fans that Sakurai completely ignored. Also, on a less relevant note, why did Silver get an appearance in a level, and Rouge didn't even get a trophy?!? Rouge is way more important to the Sonic series than Silver, or Blaze for that matter (both of whom, by the way, got their own trophies)!
Eh... Olimar deserved to be in more than any of those people. With the exception of Ray01, all of those characters are just sub-characters in their series. Shouldn't main characters like Olimar and Pit get in before sub characters?
Olimar: yes
Pit: not sure, seeing as how he only had two games, both of which are really old and not exactly ground-breaking or super famous
But this still doesn't explain why Ray 01 didn't get in as playable: Custom Robo has had more games than Pikmin, it's been out longer than Pikmin, it's newest game is newer than the newest Pikmin, and because of all this, it's probably more popular than Pikmin. And Ray 01's size isn't a problem, seeing as how even though he's only a foot high, he's still 12x taller than Olimar.
Ehh... maybe, I've never even played a Custom Robo game.
But Pit got in because fans wanted him in... same with Lucario. They weren't completely ignoring fans.
By hunter i mean non-clone, and i honestly think sakurai might just come back!
Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 09:14:56 PM
By hunter i mean non-clone, and i honestly think sakurai might just come back!
But Ridley has been in almost every Metroid game... every hunter except Sylux has only been in one. Besides, those Japanese people don't seem to be too fond of Metroid Prime. I would think that Ridley (being the only other Metroid character of real importance) would get in first.
I would like to argue that, thugh mother brain would, be impossible to play as, some people think of her as more important.
Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 10:25:52 PM
I would like to argue that, thugh mother brain would, be impossible to play as, some people think of her as more important.
Its a brain in a jar that causes the planet in Metroid to explode. She has never had a trophy or anything other than a sticker in past Smash games. She has only been in Metroid, Super Metroid, and Metroid 0. But she
did appear in Captain N, I suppose.
Ridley however has been in every Metroid game except II, Prime 2, and Hunters. He has had three different trophies in past Smash games and has appeared as two bosses and as a character in Melees opening (with two songs :P). He also killed Samus' parents right in front of her and started both Metroids III and Prime.
I'd say that while Mother Brain is very important to Metroid (more so than the hunters), Ridley is the main villain of the series ;D
Mother Brain= Medusa, Ridley= Eggplant Wizard :D
Cannot do anything other than say, i guess important is not the right word. *Sharp intake of breath* "Famous"?
Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Cannot do anything other than say, i guess important is not the right word. *Sharp intake of breath* "Famous"?
I guess it could go either way with that. I would not expect anyone who has only played the Prime games to know who MB is.... but everyone who played the original Metroid or Super Metroid would.
But then again, all of those people would know who Ridley is too :D
Eh... I still think Ridley is the most important non-Samus Metroid character...
Except for U-mos :O
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Sakurai just hates Ridley: he says Ridley would be really slow, and yet he put Ridley in the game as a boss that was bigger and faster than any playable character! Excuses, Excuses. The reason Ridley didn't get in isn't because of size problems (anyone who still thinks that should be shot), speed problems, popularity, or any other game mechanics, it's because Sakurai made this game for himself instead of the fans; that's why ROB, Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers got in, and yet more popular characters with more games, such as Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01, didn't get in.
I agreed with you until the end.
Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers, all deserve to be there.
Olimar has a popular franchise. Pit added to the number of retro characters. Ice Climbers were a completely unique character that deserved to stay.
I don't think those four characters didn't affect whether or not Krystal, Ridley, and Ray 01 got in.
We didn't need a 35-character limit on the roster..
I didn't say that Olimar, Pit, and Ice Climbers didn't deserve to be there, I said that those others I listed deserved it more. And in terms of whether or not something deserves to be in Smash, I never count their contributions to the Smash games: for example, NOW that Ice Climbers have already been in, there's no way they could go, but if they had never been in Smash in the first place, no one would be complaining "Popo and Nana should have been in Brawl as a team!!!" Meanwhile, we've got tons of Krystal, Ridley, Ray 01, and even Deoxys fans that Sakurai completely ignored. Also, on a less relevant note, why did Silver get an appearance in a level, and Rouge didn't even get a trophy?!? Rouge is way more important to the Sonic series than Silver, or Blaze for that matter (both of whom, by the way, got their own trophies)!
Eh... Olimar deserved to be in more than any of those people. With the exception of Ray01, all of those characters are just sub-characters in their series. Shouldn't main characters like Olimar and Pit get in before sub characters?
Olimar: yes
Pit: not sure, seeing as how he only had two games, both of which are really old and not exactly ground-breaking or super famous
But this still doesn't explain why Ray 01 didn't get in as playable: Custom Robo has had more games than Pikmin, it's been out longer than Pikmin, it's newest game is newer than the newest Pikmin, and because of all this, it's probably more popular than Pikmin. And Ray 01's size isn't a problem, seeing as how even though he's only a foot high, he's still 12x taller than Olimar.
Custom Robo really isn't that popular.
I believe Pikmin sells better than the Custom Robo games.
Both of the Pikmin games have reached 1 million sales.
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Pikmin (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Pikmin)
Now I'm not sure about Custom Robo, but I don't think it's reached that many sales.
It is a good franchise though, and in my opinion Ray 01 should have been a playable character.
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
But we're talking about possible characters for Smash 4, its perfectly relevant ;D
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Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 09:14:56 PM
By hunter i mean non-clone, and i honestly think sakurai might just come back!
But Ridley has been in almost every Metroid game... every hunter except Sylux has only been in one. Besides, those Japanese people don't seem to be too fond of Metroid Prime. I would think that Ridley (being the only other Metroid character of real importance) would get in first.
I still think a Hunter would get in first, despite who's more important. It'd be much easier to do, and Ridley should stay as a boss. He works fine as a boss, why change him?
Quote from: Byte on July 09, 2008, 04:59:30 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 07, 2008, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 09:14:56 PM
By hunter i mean non-clone, and i honestly think sakurai might just come back!
But Ridley has been in almost every Metroid game... every hunter except Sylux has only been in one. Besides, those Japanese people don't seem to be too fond of Metroid Prime. I would think that Ridley (being the only other Metroid character of real importance) would get in first.
I still think a Hunter would get in first, despite who's more important. It'd be much easier to do, and Ridley should stay as a boss. He works fine as a boss, why change him?
I'd rather them not go the easy route, I want to see some creativity in the roster.
This may as well go in the, original ideas thread. :D
Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
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Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
Quote from: Cornwad on July 10, 2008, 02:17:27 PM
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Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world
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can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world
Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P
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can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world
Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P
i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance
Quote from: Apollo on July 10, 2008, 02:32:29 PM
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Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world
Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P
i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance
Why not? Dedede was always a boss in past games, and Ridley has been in enough games to have an inspired moveset...
And having Ridley as a boss again would be boring :D
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Quote from: mario59 on July 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.
sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing
Like Bowser and King Dedede? ;D
no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world
Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P
i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance
Why not? Dedede was always a boss in past games, and Ridley has been in enough games to have an inspired moveset...
And having Ridley as a boss again would be boring :D
yes there have been many bosses made playable in ssb
but unfortunantly i agree with the games creator
"HAHAHA Ridley aint got no business in smash"
not a direct quote from sakurai if you were wondering
*digs back to find Ridley article"
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Background Info
A high-ranking and bloodthirsty Space Pirate, and one of Samus' main antagonists, Ridley shares features with both the pterodactyl and a dragon. Ridley led the Space Pirate attack on Samus' home colony of K-2L, which inevitably lead to the deaths of all the colonists including Samus' mother and father, the former of which Ridley was directly responsible. Samus has since had a personal vendetta against Ridley because of this, and that coupled with her objective to rid the galaxy of Space Pirates has led to numerous showdowns with the boss throughout the series. It is unknown whether he is in fact the main leader of the Space Pirates, or if he takes orders from someone or something else.
First appearing in the original Metroid and destroyed by Samus, Ridley is always revived by the Pirates. Later versions of Ridley included more advanced cybernetic enhancements, such as powerful kinetic weapons, missile launchers, and force-field wings. This form of Ridley is known as Meta Ridley and appears in Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 3. In Metroid Prime 3 Meta Ridley returns for a second battle as Omega Ridley, along with enhancements due to Phazon exposure, as well as new techniques. He also makes a cameo as an X-Parasite clone in Metroid Fusion, in Super Smash Bros, where he can be seen flying through the level Zebes and in Super Smash Bros. Melee both as a Trophy and in the game's opening, where he is fighting Samus at Ceres Space Station.
Unlike many other bosses in the series, Ridley doesn't usually require any specific strategy to defeat. Rather, starting in Super Metroid, the battles against him have the player dodge the swiftly flying dragon, along with his flailing tail and his fiery breath, all the while shooting him with a large number of missiles, making him a particularly challenging opponent.
Also introduced in Super Metroid was a musical theme that played during several boss battles. Despite being used for other bosses, the theme became particularly associated with Ridley, and has been featured solely during all the subsequent battles against him. This theme will also be featured in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
Inclusion in Brawl
Ridley is indeed, one of the most wanted characters to appear playable inside Super Smash Bros. Brawl. There are a plethora of reasons for Ridley's inclusion, and here are a few...
1. Ridley's role as a villain is important, and would fit in nicely in Brawl. Ridley would serve as another villain to face off in the playable character roster.
2. He would fill up the microscopic Metroid roster in Brawl when it comes to playable characters. Ridley fits in well, and is deserving to be included.
3. SImply put, he's unique. Don't bring Charizard into this argument, because Ridley and Charizard really aren't that alike. Speaking of arguments...
Common Arguments
Of course, with every popular character, there's always those who are infuriated by the fact of Ridley's inclusion...
1. The biggest argument against Ridley is his size. He's simply too big. That's a load of bull crap. If you recall from the Smash 64 into, Pikachu is rolling on a Pokeball, with people's shoes walking by. Pikachu is no bigger than those feet, but in the game itself, Pikachu is twice the size of that Pokeball.
And let's not forget Bowser of course... He's been resized infinite times in the Mairo franchise, and Smash Bros. is no different. It's also said that Kirby is, apparently, only 8 inches tall. In Smash Bros., Kirby is half the size of Mario, and I doubt that our plumber is only 16 inches tall.
2. Another argument is... Laughable. He would be too much alike to Charizard. Sure, they're both dragon-like, have tails and claws, have wings, and can breath fire, but that doesn't mean a thing. Look at Kirby and Jigglypuff, or Zelda and Peach. Both strikingly similar in appearance, but have totally original movelists for each of them.
Ridley in Brawl
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First thing that comes to mind when speaking of Ridley in Brawl is that he'd be slow on the ground, but hone amazing aerial ability. Simply speaking, Ridley wouldn't serve much grounded, but his aerial combat would be much better.
Then we look at Ridley's wings. Perfect qualifying for gliding capabilities and a 5-jump. Also, Ridley may look big, but if you look close, he's very, very scrawny. Yeah, he's still heavy, but not Bowser heavy.
Some say that giving Ridley 5 jumps and making him heavy would make him very hard to KO. Well, yeah. Look at King Dedede. He has a multi jump, and is even called by Sakurai as a "Heavy Hitter".
Let's also not forget Ridley's arsenal of weapons. He's got razor sharp claws, a spear-like tail, a fierce bite, and can breath fire and plasma. That's a force to be reckoned with.
Some cons? Well, for one, Ridley's ground game. Clumsy and slow on the ground may cost him. He'd have some lag time and slow execution of techniques, but makes up for it being a capable aerial fighter.
The Movelist
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StatsPower - 4/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 2/5
Running Speed - 1.5/5
Jumping - 5/5
Height - Medium-Tall
Weight - Medium-Heavy
VisualsAppearance - Ridley flies onto the stage.
Fighting Pose - Ridley's wings are tucked in, and Ridley is hunched forward.
Slow Walk - Ridley slowly creeps forward.
Fast Walk - Ridley moves his feet faster, making stomping noises.
Dash - Ridley spirints forward, with his wings extended back.
Crouch - Ridley is on all fours, with is wings closed tight.
Jump - Ridley leaps upwards.
Midair Jump 1, 2, 3, 4 - Ridley flaps his wings.
Midair Dodge - Ridley quickly flaps away from the screen.
Glide - Ridley's wings are extended out as he glides through the air.
Shield - Ridley conceals himself with his wings.
Forward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.
Backward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.
Sidestep Dodge - Ridley leans to the side towards the screen.
Up Taunt - Ridley spreads his wings out and screeches up into the air.
Side Taunt - Ridley flies up a little, performs a back flip loop, and roars forward.
Down Taunt - Ridley flies up and roars forward.
Ground AttacksA, A, A - Ridley performs two claw swipes, followed by a lunging bite.
Dash A - Ridley hovers forward off the ground and performs a front flip, striking enemies with his tail.
Strong A (Side) - Ridley whips his tail forward.
Strong A (Down) - Ridley open his wings forward, whacking enemies in front of him with them.
Strong A (Up) - A crescent tail swipe upward.
Smash A (Side) - Ridley performs a huge lunging bite.
Smash A (Down) - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings extended out.
Smash A (Up) - Ridley jumps up a little while clapping his wings together above him.
Aerial AttacksA - Ridley performs two kick claw swipes.
Smash A (Front) - A quick lunging bite.
Smash A (Back) - Ridley claps his wings behind him.
Smash A (Down) - Ridley drills his tail downward.
Smash A (Up) - Ridley claps his wings upward.
GrabsZ - Ridley snatches the opponent with one hand.
A - Ridley whips the enemy with his tial.
Front - Ridley grasps onto the opponent's shoulders, places his feet on their chest, and pushes off of them, propelling them back.
Back - Ridley slips one of his open wings underneath the foe's feet and catapults them backwards by flapping his wing back.
Down - Ridley throws the enemy down and performs a midair flip, striking enemies twice with his wings.
Up - Ridley slashes the enemy upwards, flies up, and then throws them forward.
Special MovesB: Plasma Burst - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will fire forward a beam of plasma forward with limited range. Enemies caught in the beam will be damaged multiple times and knocked back. The duration, size, and distance of the beam depends on how long you charged the attack. The charge is saveable.
Smash B: Take Down - Ridley rushes forward. If he catches an opponent, Ridley will grab them, hurl them upwards, catch them in midair, and drill them into the ground, creating a small tremor that damages nearby opponents. This attack can only be triggered if an opponent is caught during the rush.
Down B: Cyclone - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will spin on the ground, with his wings extended out for 2-5 seconds (depends on how long the attack was charged). Enemies caught in this will be juggled and damaged multiple times, followed by Ridley breaking out of the spin, knocking enemies back. The charge is not savable.
Up B: Crescent Launch - Ridley simply speeds upwards, with his wings tucked in. At the pinnacle of the technique, Ridley will go into a glide. Opponents are damaged from the initial launch.
Final Smash: Sky Splitter - Ridley roars and dashes forward. If he comes in contact with an opponent, he'll fly up with them in his hands, drop them in midair, and then fly off the screen. Ridley will then keep them suspended in the air by continuously soaring back and forth on and off the screen, thrusting through the suspended foe. Afterwards, Ridley will then soar upwards through the foe, launching them up, and come down on them from above, creating a lightning bolt that strikes downward through the opponent and onto the stage. If Ridley does not grab an opponent during the beginning of the Final Smash, then the Sky Splitter will fail.
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I remember those threads... at least you got one out of 4 :P
Mario59s banned anyway... so...
Quote from: Cornwad on July 20, 2008, 07:27:46 PM
I remember those threads... at least you got one out of 4 :P
Mario59s banned anyway... so...
I also remember the Smash Board posters thread. Those were the days, I was all happy when I had enough intellegent posts to make the list!
Quote from: Cornwad on July 07, 2008, 11:32:39 PM
Quote from: mario59 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:16 PM
Cannot do anything other than say, i guess important is not the right word. *Sharp intake of breath* "Famous"?
I guess it could go either way with that. I would not expect anyone who has only played the Prime games to know who MB is.... but everyone who played the original Metroid or Super Metroid would.
But then again, all of those people would know who Ridley is too :D
Eh... I still think Ridley is the most important non-Samus Metroid character...
Except for U-mos :O
U-Mos would be so awesome in brawl :O
And I don't know why they couldn't have included Ridley in brawl, or even Dark Samus! I would rather have them in brawl rather than Olimar, Ice Climbers, R.O.B, or Wario. They could have resized him easily. They were just lazy.
For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.
Lol, I wonder if the links to my other articles still work...
Quote from: Timmy0591 on July 20, 2008, 07:57:31 PM
For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.
Bowser shrank in the last 10 years, believe it or not.
Quote from: Byte on July 21, 2008, 08:56:48 AM
Quote from: Timmy0591 on July 20, 2008, 07:57:31 PM
For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.
Bowser shrank in the last 10 years, believe it or not.
He got much, much bigger in Sunshine, which is what the Mario characters in Brawl are based off of. Well, that and Luigi's Mansion, but he was pretty big there too.
My point is, ANY character can be shrunk to fit a role in a game if one of Nintendo's biggest mascots can.
What the heck, is this argument STILL going on?!? People have proved Ridley's functionality in Smash countless times, and people are still saying it's not possible?!?!
1. SIZE MATTERS NOT! Olimar was just an inch high, and Bowser was 7x Mario's size in Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, AND Mario Galaxy! And both Bowser and Olimar are playable! And for those who say "Bowser was originally just a bit taller than Mario," I've got news for you: Ridley used to be just a bit bigger than Samus!
2. Perhaps the worst argument I've heard is speed being a problem. If he has decent speed as a boss, they could give him decent speed for a character, too!
3. Who cares if Ridley's a good boss? You know who else could be a good boss? GANONDORF! BOWSER! WOLF! DEDEDE!
4. If the creators of Smash (aka the people who thought ROB deserved to be in more than all but 38 or so other nintendo characters) say "Ridley shouldn't be in" but have no good explanation for it, then quoting them as grounds for argument is just making a giant pitfall for yourself.
5. Tamjammerz eats people who say "there's no moveset for him" for breakfast.
What more evidence is needed to end this argument?
Quote from: TamJammerz on July 21, 2008, 04:51:47 AM
Lol, I wonder if the links to my other articles still work...
Nope.
They link back to the old URL.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 21, 2008, 06:58:25 PM
What the heck, is this argument STILL going on?!? People have proved Ridley's functionality in Smash countless times, and people are still saying it's not possible?!?!
1. SIZE MATTERS NOT! Olimar was just an inch high, and Bowser was 7x Mario's size in Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, AND Mario Galaxy! And both Bowser and Olimar are playable! And for those who say "Bowser was originally just a bit taller than Mario," I've got news for you: Ridley used to be just a bit bigger than Samus!
2. Perhaps the worst argument I've heard is speed being a problem. If he has decent speed as a boss, they could give him decent speed for a character, too!
3. Who cares if Ridley's a good boss? You know who else could be a good boss? GANONDORF! BOWSER! WOLF! DEDEDE!
4. If the creators of Smash (aka the people who thought ROB deserved to be in more than all but 38 or so other nintendo characters) say "Ridley shouldn't be in" but have no good explanation for it, then quoting them as grounds for argument is just making a giant pitfall for yourself.
5. Tamjammerz eats people who say "there's no moveset for him" for breakfast.
What more evidence is needed to end this argument?
You know it :|
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:39:55 AM
If you count each transformation of characters as a character you get 40 :O
What about Pikmin?
Quote from: Live2Die989 on July 22, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:39:55 AM
If you count each transformation of characters as a character you get 40 :O
What about Pikmin?
You can't play as Pikmin.
35 character spots + "Pokemon trainer" is really 3 pokemon not 1 human + Shiek + Zero Suit Samus + Ice Climbers are two people and you can play as either one via color change = 40. Also, it's really 41 if you count Daisy as a Peach clone since Peach has a Daisy outfit.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 22, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Live2Die989 on July 22, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:39:55 AM
If you count each transformation of characters as a character you get 40 :O
What about Pikmin?
You can't play as Pikmin.
35 character spots + "Pokemon trainer" is really 3 pokemon not 1 human + Shiek + Zero Suit Samus + Ice Climbers are two people and you can play as either one via color change = 40. Also, it's really 41 if you count Daisy as a Peach clone since Peach has a Daisy outfit.
But then you would have to say Waluigi and Louie are playable, and that Wario is playable twice. So let's just keep it at 40 :P
Quote from: Cornwad on July 22, 2008, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on July 22, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: Live2Die989 on July 22, 2008, 04:54:48 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2008, 10:39:55 AM
If you count each transformation of characters as a character you get 40 :O
What about Pikmin?
You can't play as Pikmin.
35 character spots + "Pokemon trainer" is really 3 pokemon not 1 human + Shiek + Zero Suit Samus + Ice Climbers are two people and you can play as either one via color change = 40. Also, it's really 41 if you count Daisy as a Peach clone since Peach has a Daisy outfit.
But then you would have to say Waluigi and Louie are playable, and that Wario is playable twice. So let's just keep it at 40 :P
Don't forget Blood Falcon and Classic Wario.
You guys took this out of context.