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Title: I guess you never forget...
Post by: HTA! on July 25, 2008, 12:44:50 PM
After spending so much time with Melee, i found out today its almost impossible to forget the old techs we used.
For example, I can still Wavedash as if I just learned it yesterday, and my Double Jump Bat Drops with Fox are sharp as a razor... albeit a very rusty razor. :D

In short, what things do you just have hammered into your skull, I bet if you experimented you'd be surprised.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: SkyMyl on July 25, 2008, 12:50:46 PM
My Young Link skills are as sharp as his sword. It takes me some time to get used to the jumping, but it's still good.
Some of my Fox techniques from Melee work in Brawl, and vice versa. Of course, they don't work as well as they do in Brawl.
Kirby takes some getting used to, again. I couldn't use any of my Melee Kirby techniques in Brawl, because of his changes, sadly. :'(

So yeah, some of my techniques still work. Oh, and Roy is more kickass than Marth.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: darkmario on July 25, 2008, 09:04:53 PM
 I compleatly forgot my techs in melee.I used to be good with mario,but now I suck at melee.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Level_9_Chao on July 25, 2008, 09:18:38 PM
I never learned to wavedash and never rly had to, so SHFF still works fine for me. Not that my friends use that too much either... >.>
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Macawmoses on July 25, 2008, 09:29:22 PM
Short Hop Fast Fall L-Cancel.....I can do it alright in Melee....still, but things don't translate between the titles. For instance, in Melee the other day, I used Ganon's >B.....let's just say it didn't do what I wanted it to....and over I went D:
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Kilroy on July 26, 2008, 03:15:22 PM
My Luigi in Brawl is completely different than he was in Melee, and I've checked this.

I'd always be using Green Missile because of how useful it was to get around and hurt people at the same time, but it's so much harder to use in Brawl because Luigi accents a LOT more than he did in Melee during the attack ;-;

I only used Luigi in Melee, and I never did any of the so-intercourse ing-useful-techniques-that-take-ages-to-learn-but-once-you-do-you're-the-best-person-around,-even-if-you-sucked-prior-to-learning-this-move
things, because I only played to have fun.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: QingXin on July 26, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
I tried going back to Melee... Ganondorf feels like Sonic, and everyone falls as fast as a brick.

But my tech skills have not diminished, much... I can still wavedash like a pro, and my Mewtwo skills are untouched, and as polished as ever...........................

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I MISS MEWTWO!!!!!
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: SkyMyl on July 26, 2008, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: TamJammerz on July 26, 2008, 04:28:53 PM
I MISS MEWTWO!!!!!
Lucario sucks. Mewtwo for the win.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: RedYoshi on July 26, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Techs, Wavedashes, Fast Falls, etc. I got really good at those in melee. I can't seem to wavedash very well in Brawl though, but the techs and everything else is perfect!
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: HTA! on July 26, 2008, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on July 26, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Techs, Wavedashes, Fast Falls, etc. I got really good at those in melee. I can't seem to wavedash very well in Brawl though, but the techs and everything else is perfect!
That would be because Wavedashing is not possible in Brawl.

And no, Dragonic Reverse is not WD
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Ridley on July 26, 2008, 07:59:01 PM
I never re-adjusted to melee. I got a newcomer as a main so I don't have many strategies to go back with. However I can do general strategies perfectly.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Depster on July 26, 2008, 09:27:58 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 26, 2008, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on July 26, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Techs, Wavedashes, Fast Falls, etc. I got really good at those in melee. I can't seem to wavedash very well in Brawl though, but the techs and everything else is perfect!
That would be because Wavedashing is not possible in Brawl.

And no, Dragonic Reverse is not WD
Ya huh =0
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: QingXin on July 27, 2008, 04:43:12 AM
What's Dragonic Reverse...? Sounds like an unusual name for a technique coming from the Smash Community...
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: CommanderFlint on July 27, 2008, 06:12:27 AM
Melee Falcon makes Sonic look like a turtle. And I can't SHFFL anymore...
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Chloroform? on July 27, 2008, 10:30:05 AM
I haven't played Melee for two years, and even so, I sucked at Melee. All I ever used was Ness, Kirby, Ice Climbers, and Marth, and pretty much did nothing well.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: HTA! on July 27, 2008, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: Depster on July 26, 2008, 09:27:58 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 26, 2008, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on July 26, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Techs, Wavedashes, Fast Falls, etc. I got really good at those in melee. I can't seem to wavedash very well in Brawl though, but the techs and everything else is perfect!
That would be because Wavedashing is not possible in Brawl.

And no, Dragonic Reverse is not WD
Ya huh =0
Nay
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: QingXin on July 27, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
Is anyone gonna answer my question about Dragonic Reverse...?
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: HTA! on July 27, 2008, 07:19:21 PM
Dragonic Reverse only works with Yoshi.
Because his Second jump moves him down first, if you double jump very quickly and then use a smash attack he slides.

I don;t remember all of it, Depster would know.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Depster on July 27, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Ya, it's a Yoshi AT similar to melee's wavedashing.  Probably one of the hardest techs in the game on account of the timing of the buttons.  Basically you jump, double jump, and aerial attack, but the buttons have to be pressed before yoshi even leaves the ground, which is hard because you can't press them too fast or the game won't recognize the controls you inputted.  The effect is that yoshi cancels every bit of his jump and just stays on the ground.  If you tilt the control stick while trying to do this, you will slide in a wavedash-like fashion.  I think it's useful, but for some odd reason most people say it's worthless.  This enables things like the melee style run at someone then WD back for mindgames, it enables running downsmashes, running forwardsmashes, all that stuff, even running tilts, jabs, and specs.  It also can be used like the (aaa forgot the name)-smashes, where you can slide a bit backwards and forward smash, but DR gives more slide.  It's basically a mind game tactic, but also is used just to get some extra options out of a standstill or out of a dash.  Wow that was long... (waits for Dawei's lol-DR-sucks  :D )
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: HTA! on July 27, 2008, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Depster on July 27, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Ya, it's a Yoshi AT similar to melee's wavedashing.  Probably one of the hardest techs in the game on account of the timing of the buttons.  Basically you jump, double jump, and aerial attack, but the buttons have to be pressed before yoshi even leaves the ground, which is hard because you can't press them too fast or the game won't recognize the controls you inputted.  The effect is that yoshi cancels every bit of his jump and just stays on the ground.  If you tilt the control stick while trying to do this, you will slide in a wavedash-like fashion.  I think it's useful, but for some odd reason most people say it's worthless.  This enables things like the melee style run at someone then WD back for mindgames, it enables running downsmashes, running forwardsmashes, all that stuff, even running tilts, jabs, and specs.  It also can be used like the (aaa forgot the name)-smashes, where you can slide a bit backwards and forward smash, but DR gives more slide.  It's basically a mind game tactic, but also is used just to get some extra options out of a standstill or out of a dash.  Wow that was long... (waits for Dawei's lol-DR-sucks  :D )
Squirtle Shellshifting to Hydroplaning is cooler.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: QingXin on July 28, 2008, 06:22:14 AM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 27, 2008, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Depster on July 27, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Ya, it's a Yoshi AT similar to melee's wavedashing.  Probably one of the hardest techs in the game on account of the timing of the buttons.  Basically you jump, double jump, and aerial attack, but the buttons have to be pressed before yoshi even leaves the ground, which is hard because you can't press them too fast or the game won't recognize the controls you inputted.  The effect is that yoshi cancels every bit of his jump and just stays on the ground.  If you tilt the control stick while trying to do this, you will slide in a wavedash-like fashion.  I think it's useful, but for some odd reason most people say it's worthless.  This enables things like the melee style run at someone then WD back for mindgames, it enables running downsmashes, running forwardsmashes, all that stuff, even running tilts, jabs, and specs.  It also can be used like the (aaa forgot the name)-smashes, where you can slide a bit backwards and forward smash, but DR gives more slide.  It's basically a mind game tactic, but also is used just to get some extra options out of a standstill or out of a dash.  Wow that was long... (waits for Dawei's lol-DR-sucks  :D )
Squirtle Shellshifting to Hydroplaning is cooler.
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 27, 2008, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Depster on July 27, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Ya, it's a Yoshi AT similar to melee's wavedashing.  Probably one of the hardest techs in the game on account of the timing of the buttons.  Basically you jump, double jump, and aerial attack, but the buttons have to be pressed before yoshi even leaves the ground, which is hard because you can't press them too fast or the game won't recognize the controls you inputted.  The effect is that yoshi cancels every bit of his jump and just stays on the ground.  If you tilt the control stick while trying to do this, you will slide in a wavedash-like fashion.  I think it's useful, but for some odd reason most people say it's worthless.  This enables things like the melee style run at someone then WD back for mindgames, it enables running downsmashes, running forwardsmashes, all that stuff, even running tilts, jabs, and specs.  It also can be used like the (aaa forgot the name)-smashes, where you can slide a bit backwards and forward smash, but DR gives more slide.  It's basically a mind game tactic, but also is used just to get some extra options out of a standstill or out of a dash.  Wow that was long... (waits for Dawei's lol-DR-sucks  :D )
Squirtle Shellshifting to Hydroplaning is cooler.
Shellshifting is 100x easier :D

I'll stick with that ;)
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Doodle on July 28, 2008, 07:07:20 PM
I didn't really know any of the fancy techniques in Melee. I tried doing them, but got bored with trying to learn them.
I sort of started from scratch when Brawl came out. Characters I was good with in Melee I stink at now, and characters I sucked(or at least thought I sucked) with I'm surprisingly good at. :P
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Depster on July 28, 2008, 08:28:43 PM
DR has like 100 more options though and is sneakier. sides, DR gives you yoshi's DJ SA frames standing still
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: QingXin on July 29, 2008, 07:02:46 AM
Okay, I'm pretty sure I've got Dragonic Reverse down pretty well...

My method? Requires Wiimote + Nunchuck!!! On your second jump, do a Shake Smash immediately after the jump (almost in conjunction with it)... I think people find it so hard because everyone goes for their blue/purple tinted GCN controllers...
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Depster on July 29, 2008, 07:58:22 AM
I use CC and it's pretty easy with that, just slide my thumb really fast
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: RedYoshi on July 31, 2008, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: Hector_the_Axe on July 26, 2008, 06:26:12 PM
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on July 26, 2008, 06:22:32 PM
Techs, Wavedashes, Fast Falls, etc. I got really good at those in melee. I can't seem to wavedash very well in Brawl though, but the techs and everything else is perfect!
That would be because Wavedashing is not possible in Brawl.

And no, Dragonic Reverse is not WD

Yeah, I thought that it was impossible in Brawl I just wasn't sure. It would be nice if you could but I think being able to air dodge more than once in one fall makes up for it.
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: Nayrman on July 31, 2008, 05:02:09 PM
I remember how to short hop forward A Marth spam to start combos. Much harder to do in Brawl IMO...ah well.
GOod thing I main Sonic and Snake then XD
Title: Re: I guess you never forget...
Post by: RedYoshi on August 01, 2008, 12:01:44 AM
Quote from: Depster on July 27, 2008, 08:37:44 PM
Ya, it's a Yoshi AT similar to melee's wavedashing.  Probably one of the hardest techs in the game on account of the timing of the buttons.  Basically you jump, double jump, and aerial attack, but the buttons have to be pressed before yoshi even leaves the ground, which is hard because you can't press them too fast or the game won't recognize the controls you inputted.  The effect is that yoshi cancels every bit of his jump and just stays on the ground.  If you tilt the control stick while trying to do this, you will slide in a wavedash-like fashion.  I think it's useful, but for some odd reason most people say it's worthless.  This enables things like the melee style run at someone then WD back for mindgames, it enables running downsmashes, running forwardsmashes, all that stuff, even running tilts, jabs, and specs.  It also can be used like the (aaa forgot the name)-smashes, where you can slide a bit backwards and forward smash, but DR gives more slide.  It's basically a mind game tactic, but also is used just to get some extra options out of a standstill or out of a dash.  Wow that was long... (waits for Dawei's lol-DR-sucks  :D )

That's awesome because Yoshi is my regular now. I need to try that!