you're entirely wrong.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2008/09/24/hospital-death.html?ref=rss
One case doesn't prove a thing, but I do agree. We have too few staff, too many emergencies, etc.
Quote from: mackormoses on September 24, 2008, 10:01:24 PM
One case doesn't prove a thing, but I do agree. We have too few staff, too many emergencies, etc.
and our hospitals need to at least acknowledge that someone has been sitting in their hospital for almost A DAY AND A HALF.
by the sounds of it, security, janitors, nurses, nobody even inquired as to why he had been sitting there over two straight shifts! I mean come on! you see the same guy in the same place for two of your shifts (if you're assuming the overworked nurse in manitoba, which they are, that's 8 hours of two days straight, 16 hours of seeing this man off and on), wouldn't you wonder why the hell he hasn't received treatment, considering how he's in the EMERGENCY WARD?
Quote from: Jono2 on September 24, 2008, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on September 24, 2008, 10:01:24 PM
One case doesn't prove a thing, but I do agree. We have too few staff, too many emergencies, etc.
and our hospitals need to at least acknowledge that someone has been sitting in their hospital for almost A DAY AND A HALF.
When my grandmother had cancer and had to get to the hospital(do remember the exact reason) she had to wait like a whole 24 hours...
One benefit for paying for health care, I guess.
Quote from: Jono2 on September 24, 2008, 09:49:21 PM
you're entirely wrong.
Can't argue with a self-justifying statement.
I mean that literally.
Quote from: mackormoses on September 24, 2008, 10:01:24 PM
One case doesn't prove a thing, but I do agree. We have too few staff, too many emergencies, etc.
It's not just one case though. At the bottom of the article, it lists four other people who had the same thing happen to them.
Yes, I've heard about that.
That's because they're short on doctors because they go to other cites for more money.
Quote from: TheDarkChief on September 25, 2008, 01:47:17 PM
Yes, I've heard about that.
That's because they're short on doctors because they go to other cites for more money.
thats no excuse for ignoring a man in the emergency ward for 34 hours.
if they're understaffed, ship the patients off somewhere.
You get what you pay for.
If you don't pay, expect a bad deal. It's why the US should never adopt universal health care.
Quote from: Riosan on September 25, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
You get what you pay for.
If you don't pay, expect a bad deal. It's why the US should never adopt universal health care.
I agree 100%.
If anything, you should be required to buy your own health insurance, and even that probably wouldn't work in the US.
Quote from: Riosan on September 25, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
You get what you pay for.
If you don't pay, expect a bad deal. It's why the US should never adopt universal health care.
we pay for it out the wazoo with taxes
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on September 25, 2008, 05:15:21 PM
Quote from: Riosan on September 25, 2008, 03:57:23 PM
You get what you pay for.
If you don't pay, expect a bad deal. It's why the US should never adopt universal health care.
I agree 100%.
If anything, you should be required to buy your own health insurance, and even that probably wouldn't work in the US.
so only the people that can afford health insurance should get health care, and those who can't can just go die in the street?
Our hospitals aren't always speedy either. I had to go get a chest x-ray once and had to wait several hours to get in. And it wasn't cheap either. Even though the x-ray itself took all in 10 minutes to do.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on September 25, 2008, 05:30:55 PM
Our hospitals aren't always speedy either. I had to go get a chest x-ray once and had to wait several hours to get in. And it wasn't cheap either. Even though the x-ray itself took all in 10 minutes to do.
oftentimes when i break/injure a limb (broken arms, sprained wrists, ankles) i have to wait 3+ hours in the ER alone.
Quote from: Jono2 on September 25, 2008, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on September 25, 2008, 05:30:55 PM
Our hospitals aren't always speedy either. I had to go get a chest x-ray once and had to wait several hours to get in. And it wasn't cheap either. Even though the x-ray itself took all in 10 minutes to do.
oftentimes when i break/injure a limb (broken arms, sprained wrists, ankles) i have to wait 3+ hours in the ER alone.
I haven't had that issue, so I wouldn't know how long I'd end up waiting. Neither system works effectively. I think having a mix of the two works the best.
As a point, we're one of the highest taxed nations in the world, so, we pay for the services, we just don't pay per visit, or anything of the like. And these faults happen all the time, in every country, so, it isn't just Canada, I did some research, and found similar articles in the UK, Japan, and the US. It's merely the worker shortage, in my books.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on September 25, 2008, 05:40:31 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on September 25, 2008, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on September 25, 2008, 05:30:55 PM
Our hospitals aren't always speedy either. I had to go get a chest x-ray once and had to wait several hours to get in. And it wasn't cheap either. Even though the x-ray itself took all in 10 minutes to do.
oftentimes when i break/injure a limb (broken arms, sprained wrists, ankles) i have to wait 3+ hours in the ER alone.
I haven't had that issue, so I wouldn't know how long I'd end up waiting. Neither system works effectively. I think having a mix of the two works the best.
and thats exactly what I want.
I know the US's system is flawed as well, but a mix of the two seems to solve at least a few problems.
B--bu--but Sicko said that the Canadian system was better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!111!!1!111
Michael Moore is always right!11!1111111!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on September 26, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
B--bu--but Sicko said that the Canadian system was better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!111!!1!111
Michael Moore is always right!11!1111111!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck no.
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on September 26, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
B--bu--but Sicko said that the Canadian system was better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!111!!1!111
Michael Moore is always right!11!1111111!!!!!!!!!!!
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