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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: Friendly Hostile on April 03, 2009, 11:28:35 PM

Title: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Friendly Hostile on April 03, 2009, 11:28:35 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2009/04/03/ST2009040303761.html

Iowa is now the 3rd State in which gay marriage has been ruled legal.  Never expected a midwestern state to achieve this quite so soon.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Tupin on April 03, 2009, 11:37:04 PM
Yeah, that was pretty random.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Titus Andronicus on April 04, 2009, 07:46:34 AM
What state is that again?
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Nayrman on April 04, 2009, 11:12:57 AM
Very significant. I like this move by Iowa of course, but it's a HUGE step in terms of the gay marriage ratification. This isn't some "ultra-liberal" (as many conservatives like to put) state like the two in New England (Conneticuit and Massachusettes), this is a borderline republican (usually red, but not so far as other states) in the heartland of the country. Big big news...
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Ridley on April 04, 2009, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on April 04, 2009, 11:12:57 AM
Very significant. I like this move by Iowa of course, but it's a HUGE step in terms of the gay marriage ratification. This isn't some "ultra-liberal" (as many conservatives like to put) state like the two in New England (Conneticuit and Massachusettes), this is a borderline republican (usually red, but not so far as other states) in the heartland of the country. Big big news...

I consider myself conservative on some views but I don't see why people care about gays so much. They aren't bothering you, are they?
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Nayrman on April 04, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: Ridley on April 04, 2009, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on April 04, 2009, 11:12:57 AM
Very significant. I like this move by Iowa of course, but it's a HUGE step in terms of the gay marriage ratification. This isn't some "ultra-liberal" (as many conservatives like to put) state like the two in New England (Conneticuit and Massachusettes), this is a borderline republican (usually red, but not so far as other states) in the heartland of the country. Big big news...

I consider myself conservative on some views but I don't see why people care about gays so much. They aren't bothering you, are they?
It's mostly bible swilling southerners who are still miffed about letting blacks have rights and "god help them if the gays can do what they want."

That's basically the deal X_X;;
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 04, 2009, 12:07:03 PM
That is a bit of a shocker. I was expecting the blue states would go long before the Swing States. Quite impressive.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on April 04, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Too bad Kansas and Missouri will never legalize it.
THANKS FRED PHELPS ^_^
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Tupin on April 04, 2009, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on April 04, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Too bad Kansas and Missouri will never legalize it.
THANKS FRED PHELPS ^_^
The major cities of Missouri/Kansas are surprisingly forward-moving.

However, the country is corn, Bibles, truck stops, and more corn.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Silverhawk79 on April 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Tupin on April 04, 2009, 12:13:37 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on April 04, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Too bad Kansas and Missouri will never legalize it.
THANKS FRED PHELPS ^_^
The major cities of Missouri/Kansas are surprisingly forward-moving.

However, the country is corn, Bibles, truck stops, and more corn.
Kansas City was rabidly pro-Obama, which surprised me.
Then again, KC is rabidly black as well.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Tupin on April 04, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Yeah, I think that within the next 20-30 years as more states legalize it, even the most Republican states will do it just so they don't seem like they are behind.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 04, 2009, 01:04:01 PM
Quote from: Tupin on April 04, 2009, 12:21:59 PM
Yeah, I think that within the next 20-30 years as more states legalize it, even the most Republican states will do it just so they don't seem like they are behind.
It's a good  point. And yeah, with places like Canada pressuring the States as well, there is a lot of reason to do so.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Friendly Hostile on April 04, 2009, 01:18:02 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on April 04, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Too bad Kansas and Missouri will never legalize it.
THANKS FRED PHELPS ^_^
If enough states legalize it, and the Federal DOMA is overturned, there might be a nasty showdown in the Supreme Court over these amendments in the state constitutions.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Syncopathic on April 04, 2009, 01:44:03 PM
I really didn't expect this. Like Mack said, I also expected the blue states to do this first.
What's next? A southern state doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Macawmoses on April 04, 2009, 01:54:28 PM
Texas: Proudly Rainbow Colored Since Obama
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Beatnik on April 04, 2009, 01:56:43 PM
I thought we'd have it here in New York before Iowa legalized it.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Friendly Hostile on April 04, 2009, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: Beatnik on April 04, 2009, 01:56:43 PM
I thought we'd have it here in New York before Iowa legalized it.
We're close.  The Senate just needs to get on the ball and pass the darn EMA.
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Spam on April 04, 2009, 02:39:41 PM
Well I'm neutral on the matter and Nayrman your partly an idiot because not all the people raised in the south are racist, sexist, clan-ish, etc...


Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Nayrman on April 04, 2009, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: Spam on April 04, 2009, 02:39:41 PM
Well I'm neutral on the matter and Nayrman your partly an idiot because not all the people raised in the south are racist, sexist, clan-ish, etc...




Most people when I moved here were X_X;;

It's better now, but mostly because so many people in Atlanta/surrounding suburbs moved here from other places in the 90's.
Trust me when I say once you get into the Mid-level georgia to the plains it's pretty redneck still...
Title: Re: Well, I didn't see this one coming.
Post by: Friendly Hostile on April 07, 2009, 09:30:55 PM
In case you guys haven't heard, Vermont became the first state to legalize gay marriage via the legislature the other day.  So it seems it's not just the activist judges that support gay marriage anymore.