No, not the Dreamcast 2, a cooperative project between Sega-Sammy and the main Sega dev team themselves, scheduled for release Winter 2010.
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I personally don't think it's a new system, I think it's new arcade hardware. A new Sega system would be awesome, though.
The Sega 512X.
But I want my DC2 ;_; *continues to brood about SEGA's downfall after going 3D party*
I heard Macintosh bought Sega, so a new system is possible.
No, if Sega was bought out by Apple, it would be much bigger news.
Like I said, this is probably going to be an arcade hardware system like Noami. If it's actually a consumer system, it will be the cheapest available, be in HD, and compete with the Wii's successor.
Quote from: Tupin on May 16, 2009, 07:08:31 PM
No, if Sega was bought out by Apple, it would be much bigger news.
Like I said, this is probably going to be an arcade hardware system like Noami. If it's actually a consumer system, it will be the cheapest available, be in HD, and compete with the Wii's successor.
I'd really like that ;_;
Sad part is that SEGA (at least back in the day) was actually more creative than Nintendo was. If their studio has even half the talent there was during the DC, I can only imagine what system they could make with something akin to the Wii.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 16, 2009, 07:11:02 PM
I'd really like that ;_;
Sad part is that SEGA (at least back in the day) was actually more creative than Nintendo was. If their studio has even half the talent there was during the DC, I can only imagine what system they could make with something akin to the Wii.
The best part is that whatever they are making, they are making it like an arcade machine. SEGA's arcade games are the only things in the company that have been consistently good, and that's the thing they are focusing on.
Quote from: Tupin on May 16, 2009, 07:27:04 PM
The best part is that whatever they are making, they are making it like an arcade machine. SEGA's arcade games are the only things in the company that have been consistently good, and that's the thing they are focusing on.
Of course, we're american, so we'll never see any of those neat things. I hate how our arcades disappeared. I met a guy at Momocon who spend a semester in Japan, and they had these massive MMO Gundam 80 player games. It sounded awesome ;_;
Quote from: Nayrman on May 16, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
Of course, we're american, so we'll never see any of those neat things. I hate how our arcades disappeared. I met a guy at Momocon who spend a semester in Japan, and they had these massive MMO Gundam 80 player games. It sounded awesome ;_;
Ever heard of Dave and Busters? They actually get brand new arcade games there, I think they might have Street Fighter IV.
Quote from: Tupin on May 16, 2009, 07:32:38 PM
Ever heard of Dave and Busters? They actually get brand new arcade games there, I think they might have Street Fighter IV.
All the D&B's near me are terrible. They have some decent arcade games, but nothing spectacular. In Vegas I've been to a GameWorks which as awesome, they had all the big games and such. They even had an original arcade machine of Sonic the Fighters!
I just realized, if Sega were to do this, they would make Sony and Nintendo so mad.
Not really Microsoft, a strangely odd amount of former Dreamcast developers went to develop the Xbox and 360. In fact, the original Xbox was supposed to be able to play Dreamcast games. Sadly, their relationship did not help the Xbox in Japan. People there supported the Dreamcast like Sega never stopped making it.
Retailers in Japan would be quick to restock Sega consoles. Keep in mind this was a country in which the Saturn was as popular as the Playstation, and the Dreamcast was supported until 2007.
Quote from: Tupin on May 16, 2009, 08:00:46 PM
I just realized, if Sega were to do this, they would make Sony and Nintendo so mad.
Not really Microsoft, a strangely odd amount of former Dreamcast developers went to develop the Xbox and 360. In fact, the original Xbox was supposed to be able to play Dreamcast games. Sadly, their relationship did not help the Xbox in Japan. People there supported the Dreamcast like Sega never stopped making it.
Retailers in Japan would be quick to restock Sega consoles. Keep in mind this was a country in which the Saturn was as popular as the Playstation, and the Dreamcast was supported until 2007.
Indie developers still make games for the DC every now and again because it's so easy to code. Since SEGA games (overall) have been selling well, and EA being the money grubbers they are (many cite EA not supporting the DC as one of the reasons it failed here), it should do reasonably well stateside. I know it'd make a lot of gamers happy.
EA not supporting it and making the games so easy to pirate were the main reasons it failed, that and Sony lying about the PS2. (Did you know there was actually a rumor that they couldn't be sold in in the Middle East because they were so powerful that they could help launch missiles?!)
Near the end of the DC's supported life, they became really spiteful. SEGAGAGA is a prime example of this. They hated having to leave the market, but the PS2 ruined them.
Oh, and did I mention that they replaced Sega of America's president the day before the Dreamcast launched and the new one didn't take over until two months after it came out?
Quote from: Tupin on May 16, 2009, 08:25:16 PM
EA not supporting it and making the games so easy to pirate were the main reasons it failed, that and Sony lying about the PS2. (Did you know there was actually a rumor that they couldn't be sold in in the Middle East because they were so powerful that they could help launch missiles?!)
Near the end of the DC's supported life, they became really spiteful. SEGAGAGA is a prime example of this. They hated having to leave the market, but the PS2 ruined them.
Oh, and did I mention that they replaced Sega of America's president the day before the Dreamcast launched and the new didn't take over until two months after it came out?
This is why you can't have corporate wigs be in charge of entertainment companies.
If only there was a new one.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 16, 2009, 07:44:55 PM
In Vegas I've been to a GameWorks which as awesome, they had all the big games and such. They even had an original arcade machine of Sonic the Fighters!
I went there, and I played that. :o Though, I did spend most of my time there playing Gauntlet Legends...
This new Sega whatever it is sounds like it could pack quite a punch. All they need to do is successfully market it, and provide it with good games.
Well, meet the newest Sega console(s).
RingEdge:
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RingWide:
[spoiler](http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x28/TUPPYLUVER95/RingWide.jpg)[/spoiler]
You know, I think this is a consumerized SuperGun, like how the Neo-Geo was. So yeah, awesome arcade games.
those looks like regular processors or something X_X:;
Quote from: Nayrman on May 24, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
those looks like regular processors or something X_X:;
Hopefully they are prototypes.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 24, 2009, 06:00:49 PM
let's hope.
Hey, at least we're going to get awesome games, here's one of the games that it will probably launch with:
Wow, are we late, or something? http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2009/02/sega_ringedge_and_ringwide_platforms.html Check out the date on that. Late February is when it was announced.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 16, 2009, 07:11:02 PM
I'd really like that ;_;
Sad part is that SEGA (at least back in the day) was actually more creative than Nintendo was. If their studio has even half the talent there was during the DC, I can only imagine what system they could make with something akin to the Wii.
Talent? lol I wouldn't go that far. The DC was amazing, but pretty much every other SEGA console was horrendous in competition with Nintendo's. Evidence lies in the fact that they're not in the console biz anymore.
Quote from: Zero on May 30, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Talent? lol I wouldn't go that far. The DC was amazing, but pretty much every other SEGA console was horrendous in competition with Nintendo's. Evidence lies in the fact that they're not in the console biz anymore.
The main problem they had was they always had the least technologically advanced system. They had that problem because they always released their systems first, in order to grab an audience of people who just couldn't wait.
The Dreamcast was the exception, but it couldn't hold up to the PS2, there was too much hype and the DC just got left in the dust.
Quote from: Tupin on May 30, 2009, 01:57:45 PM
The main problem they had was they always had the least technologically advanced system. They had that problem because they always released their systems first, in order to grab an audience of people who just couldn't wait.
The Dreamcast was the exception, but it couldn't hold up to the PS2, there was too much hype and the DC just got left in the dust.
and the PS2 had the DVD thing going. That's the MAIN reason it sold so well. (and pretty much the only reason it sold the first year).
Quote from: Zero on May 30, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Talent? lol I wouldn't go that far. The DC was amazing, but pretty much every other SEGA console was horrendous in competition with Nintendo's. Evidence lies in the fact that they're not in the console biz anymore.
horrendous? The Genesis almost beat the SNES (closest console race in history in any region), the Genesis actually BEAT the SNES in Europe (not that anyone cares, and this was mostly due to SEGA getting licenses that Europeans cared about like the Asterix games). And the Dreamcast had one of the most successful launches of it's time. It's bascially just that they didn't have the longest lasting systems...
Sega always had Europe. Mainly because Nintendo took forever to release anything there.
Quote from: Tupin on May 30, 2009, 06:18:02 PM
Sega always had Europe. Mainly because Nintendo took forever to release anything there.
and yet SEGA and Sony get quite a bit of money from their European divisions. Hell, unlike Nintendo and most Japanese companies, SEGA's European studios actually works on quite a few games themselves.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 30, 2009, 06:26:51 PM
and yet SEGA and Sony get quite a bit of money from their European divisions. Hell, unlike Nintendo and most Japanese companies, SEGA's European studios actually works on quite a few games themselves.
Nintendo of Europe actually does a lot, they cover pretty much all of Africa except for South Africa, all of mainland Asia except for China and South Korea, and for some reason some of the islands in the Pacific. Not saying those are big video game playing regions, though. That, and they are basically translators and distributors, not makers.
Quote from: Tupin on May 30, 2009, 06:37:54 PM
Nintendo of Europe actually does a lot, they cover pretty much all of Africa except for South Africa, all of mainland Asia except for China and South Korea, and for some reason some of the islands in the Pacific. Not saying those are big video game playing regions, though. That, and they are basically translators and distributors, not makers.
I meant in terms of making games. Yea, that's basically what all European divisions do for most gaming companies. As far as I know SEGA and Sony are the only Japanese companies that have their Euro divisions actually do stuff in the game making process.
Obviously Ubisoft is French in it of itself...
Quote from: Nayrman on May 30, 2009, 03:19:30 PM
horrendous? The Genesis almost beat the SNES (closest console race in history in any region), the Genesis actually BEAT the SNES in Europe (not that anyone cares, and this was mostly due to SEGA getting licenses that Europeans cared about like the Asterix games). And the Dreamcast had one of the most successful launches of it's time. It's bascially just that they didn't have the longest lasting systems...
The Genesis almost beat the SNES due to the genius marketing team Sega had at the time. The SNES had a far better library and while I loved both as a kid, I played the SNES more.
The Dreamcast is still one of my favorite consoles, I know all of that.