"Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday when an assailant opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with constituents, killing at least five people and injuring several others in a rampage that rattled the nation.
Giffords was among at least 10 people injured, and the hospital said her outlook was "optimistic" and that she was responding.
"She's in critical condition," Dr. Peter Rhee said. "The neurosurgeons have finished operating on her and I can tell you that in the current time period I am very optimistic about recovery ... she was following commands."
The hospital said a 9-year-old child was among the killed, and a federal judge was also fatally shot."
* http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40978517/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
This happened in Tucson, Arizona. That's where I intercourse ing live. Giffords had a gathering at a Safeway on Ina and Oracle Rd, where she was responding to citizens' problems and opinions and stuff. This poop is intense. All of my local news stations are covering this. Pretty darn crazy. I practically live five minutes away from that Safeway. I wake up and hear there's a massacre just around the corner. Holy poop, man.
Uh, wow. That's insane.
I think it's time to move to Phoenix.
Phoenix is not safe.
Um, Tucson is like two hours away from me. I do live in Arizona as well. This is so going to get mentioned in my U.S. Govt. class for sure.
Holy hell.
That's pretty terrible.
Some advice on how to not get killed
Buy a gun
Then shoot yourself, in the arm or something, and then go to the hospital, he can't kill you or send you to the hospital if you're already at the hospital.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 06:01:37 PM
Some advice on how to not get killed
Buy a gun
Then shoot yourself, in the arm or something, and then go to the hospital, he can't kill you or send you to the hospital if you're already at the hospital.
Good tip on how to not go to the hospital, but if he kills you you don't go there.
I said "he can't kill you or send you to the hospital"
Which is what he did to some people according to the thread
Dumbass.
Ah, my home state. I think I used to live close by there.
Looks like I made a good decision by moving D:
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 06:21:28 PM
I said "he can't kill you or send you to the hospital"
Which is what he did to some people according to the thread
Dumbass.
Damn, way to take it to the extreme.
Using Dumbass, I was not ready for that.
Peace and Love Brother.
He could definitely still kill you if you were in the hospital though.
JrDude. Just stop.
Quote from: Positive Vibes on January 08, 2011, 07:12:01 PM
Damn, way to take it to the extreme.
Using Dumbass, I was not ready for that.
Peace and Love Brother.
He could definitely still kill you if you were in the hospital though.
Yes he indeed could, but then he would more likely get caught since he's killing you in a hospital.
Just saw one of those 5 second commercials on this. You know, those news things that are like "<INTERESTING HEADLINE> ...Tonight at 11."
Yeah, I might just watch that.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 06:01:37 PM
Some advice on how to not get killed
Buy a gun
Then shoot yourself, in the arm or something, and then go to the hospital, he can't kill you or send you to the hospital if you're already at the hospital.
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Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 07:18:59 PM
Yes he indeed could, but then he would more likely get caught since he's killing you in a hospital.
(http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2010/02/double-facepalm.jpg)
Quote from: Sin Jecht on January 08, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
(http://arthropoda.southernfriedscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/facepalm.jpg)
(http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2010/02/double-facepalm.jpg)
Triple facepalmed, win.
Anyway, the fact that he would get caught makes it very unlikely for him to kill there, is the point I was trying to make.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 08:54:57 PM
Triple facepalmed, win.
Anyway, the fact that he would get caught makes it very unlikely for him to kill there, is the point I was trying to make.
Quit while you're not too far behind, this conversation is not going to end well for you otherwise.
Quote from: Sin Jecht on January 08, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
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(http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2010/02/double-facepalm.jpg)
Haha I can relate to this picture because I to! have facepalmed.
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 08, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
Quit while you're not too far behind, this conversation is not going to end well for you otherwise.
Giffords was shot at close range in the head. The bullet went through her skull, her brain, and out the other side of her head. She survived it, but is in critical condition. The necessary surgeries were performed. Doctors said that they were very optimistic and are hopeful that she'll make some form of recovery. She was known for her strong stances on immigration and gun control.
Even if she recovers, though, she'll likely have a case of the loopies. Headshots aren't a pushover, you know. Pretty intense.
Quote from: Superccini Koolfredo on January 08, 2011, 09:53:27 PM
Giffords was shot at close range in the head. The bullet went through her skull, her brain, and out the other side of her head. She survived it, but is in critical condition. The necessary surgeries were performed. Doctors said that they were very optimistic and are hopeful that she'll make some form of recovery. She was known for her strong stances on immigration and gun control.
Even if she recovers, though, she'll likely have a case of the loopies. Headshots aren't a pushover, you know. Pretty intense.
Wait... HOW do you survive THAT?
I'm impressed.
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 08, 2011, 09:54:15 PM
Wait... HOW do you survive THAT?
I'm impressed.
Actually, there are quite a few places you can be shot in the head and survive. It's the bleeding that'll get to you if surgery isn't quick.
Quote from: Superccini Koolfredo on January 08, 2011, 09:53:27 PM
Giffords was shot at close range in the head. The bullet went through her skull, her brain, and out the other side of her head. She survived it, but is in critical condition. The necessary surgeries were performed. Doctors said that they were very optimistic and are hopeful that she'll make some form of recovery. She was known for her strong stances on immigration and gun control.
Even if she recovers, though, she'll likely have a case of the loopies. Headshots aren't a pushover, you know. Pretty intense.
She's incredibly lucky.
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 08, 2011, 09:42:28 PM
Quit while you're not too far behind, this conversation is not going to end well for you otherwise.
I'm making posts that are as useful and meaningful as the posts I'm responding to, except the first one which was just a joke, which are made all the time all over NSFCD. I respond because that is basically what is being asked for in the way you guys are responding, with an exception of the last one where it wasn't basically being asked to respond and I was just an idiot for responding due to me often liking to explain myself.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 08, 2011, 10:42:48 PM
I'm making posts that are as useful and meaningful as the posts I'm responding to, except the first one which was just a joke, which are made all the time all over NSFCD. I respond because that is basically what is being asked for in the way you guys are responding, with an exception of the last one where it wasn't basically being asked to respond and I was just an idiot for responding due to me often liking to explain myself.
C'mon, be more positive.
Quote from: Ingus on January 08, 2011, 11:22:45 PM
C'mon, be more positive.
Can't, I'd explain why but I might say something stupid enough for Super to call me a moron, and last time he did that it came with a warning that caused the message "Watched" to be under my avatar junk.
Taking this threads attention away from rambling.
It would be amazing if she came out of this with no major dysfunctions.
ITT: JrDude attempts to cover up his own silliness.
Quote from: Doodle on January 09, 2011, 01:11:34 AM
ITT: JrDude attempts to cover up his own silliness.
I do?
Wow, really feel for those innocent people and the family of the kid there. That's just messed up on so many levels. With a country where it's so easy to get ahold of guns I'm surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more often.
I COULD say something really mean about the politician(s) deserving every shot fired at them, but I'll wait until she gets out of the hospital, hopefully with no long lasting repercussions.
The alleged gunman said that he made bizarre videos about government, that he didn't trust it. I'm surprised a 22-year old cares that much about govt. itself.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 09, 2011, 01:46:04 AM
I do?
There's no way for your situation to improve at all. My suggestion, leave this thread. You'll thank me later.
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 09, 2011, 01:39:23 PM
There's no way for your situation to improve at all. My suggestion, leave this thread. You'll thank me later.
I like to explain myself, I don't try to "cover up my sillyness," I know I am indeed silly.
Though it's too late to leave, I already got punished.
Quote from: JrDude 益 on January 09, 2011, 06:10:42 PM
I like to explain myself, I don't try to "cover up my sillyness," I know I am indeed silly.
Though it's too late to leave, I already got punished.
Again?
inb4moderated
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 09, 2011, 07:07:32 PM
Again?
inb4moderated
Yes again, I seem to easily annoy people with my bad jokes and with my responses to their responses, especially people named RiddlerRob or SuperKool.
Well ain't that a kick in the head.....
Quote from: JRose on January 09, 2011, 09:36:59 PM
Well ain't that a kick in the head.....
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The fact she survived such a shot is fairly miraculous-most adults can't easily recover from that or simply die because of it.
As much as I dislike the current parties and partisan politics, this is a bit too extreme. Here's where I'm probably going to piss people off : Perhaps if more citizens were armed they could have taken this guy down.
Anyhoo...I was expecting the media to beat this story more, but they stopped once the horse was dead.
Quote from: Alisaihin on January 16, 2011, 02:53:46 PM
Perhaps if more citizens were armed they could have taken this guy down.
There were other armed citizens and non-armed citizens who responded quickly to deal with him and those hit. More people having guns here would have little difference except for perhaps someone getting hit by a stray shot by someone trying to help.
Quote from: Alisaihin on January 16, 2011, 02:53:46 PM
Perhaps if more citizens were armed they could have taken this guy down.
You don't always know though. Also, if you see a guy start shooting people, even if you're armed you get the intercourse out. At least, that's how most people will react. I'm against the whole "more citizens should be armed" thing, but that's a different story.
I don't know how true all this is, but I heard the shooter legally owned the gun. And, he had a history of bad mental problems. IMO, a person who has had mental breakdowns like him in the past should not be allowed to carry firearms. Again, this is just what I heard. Not 100% positive if he legally had the gun or not, I'm just saying.
I know in NY it's very difficult to get legal rights to possess a firearm. It's still possible (bill of rights) but it's not so easy.
Quote from: Kayollini Pomodoro on January 16, 2011, 08:26:01 PM
You don't always know though. Also, if you see a guy start shooting people, even if you're armed you get the intercourse out. At least, that's how most people will react. I'm against the whole "more citizens should be armed" thing, but that's a different story.
I don't know how true all this is, but I heard the shooter legally owned the gun. And, he had a history of bad mental problems. IMO, a person who has had mental breakdowns like him in the past should not be allowed to carry firearms. Again, this is just what I heard. Not 100% positive if he legally had the gun or not, I'm just saying.
I know in NY it's very difficult to get legal rights to possess a firearm. It's still possible (bill of rights) but it's not so easy.
It's mostly because Arizona is pretty much the Wild Wild West when it comes to gun rights. From the surveys and the like I've read, and I've read a number, most people would rather you take their child than their gun rights. OK, maybe not that far, but they do see the two things as rather connected.
As a note, I'm all for gun rights, and even believe someone that has mental issues can own one. But given the circumstances of Loughner, where he was perceived as potentially violent, it's somewhat concerning.
Seeing as this is my first post on the matter, and I've only just looked at the thread here and there, I have to say one thing: political rhetoric likely has little to do with it regardless. The only evidence for it is circumstantial (Palin's delightful map). We don't need to jump to conclusions -- I'm sure we'll find out just why he did it in his trial.
Quote from: Mace on January 16, 2011, 08:45:14 PM
As a note, I'm all for gun rights, and even believe someone that has mental issues can own one. But given the circumstances of Loughner, where he was perceived as potentially violent, it's somewhat concerning.
I'm fine with gun rights too, to an extent. I should have been more specific: Some mental issues aren't as dangerous, in which case, owning a handgun wouldn't be a terrible thing. But yeah, the potential violence thing is enough to be a little nervous about someone like that owning a gun. I just don't think handguns should be given out like candy, either. I don't want EVERYONE having them (or even the majority at least) but the responsible people deserve that right.
Except, in our society it doesn't work that way. There's no way of knowing whether someone's nonviolent and responsible or building up enough anger to kill a first victim (Every serial killer has to start somewhere, even if they have no prior criminal record at all before their first murder), but I digress.
I think the whole getting a gun license thing should be as difficult to get anywhere as it is in New York. Not that I want it to be "difficult," but I think the requirements should be this strict anywhere.