::) Well, do you think it's possible that Sonic and Snake were the cause of this delay. I'm sure Sakurai went to a lot of trouble to get Sonic in. What do you think?
Mabye they saw the negetive comments towards the online and are making it better... please?
That's a thought. But I don't see anything else they can add to the online play. They already said there wouldn't be a ranking system.
C'mon, Sonic and Snake wasn't the delay, maybe because for the development of the Co-op mode in WI-FI and/or the more things they want to add.
I'm sure they are just working on some unexpected bugs and glitches in the game.
To delay this, just to make ONLINE and CO OP Better alone....
thats worth it IMO.
Like I said, them adding Sonic has Hyped and Phyched me up so much,.... it's JUST enough for me
to wait this long.... until Feb 12, 2008 when I get my copy.
There more then likely done with the actual roster,single player,multiplayer, there problem screwing with online components right now, the game will probably be completed some time in december based of the release dates.
I have a feeling that they're fixing online.
And HOPEFULLY they'll add Online Co-Op
Considering the time Snake has been revealed. It's absolutely ridiculous to think Snake could have played any part in it. I doubt it's Sonic either. I heard it was for touch ups and a polish of the online play.
Hopefully we'll get a leaderboard and the ability to see eachothers names in Wi-fi
How about a different mode that allows for matches to be ranked and you can see people's names while keeping the other mode. If anything, we know Smash devs love options.
Quote from: Ikkitrix on October 15, 2007, 03:04:38 PM
How about a different mode that allows for matches to be ranked and you can see people's names while keeping the other mode. If anything, we know Smash devs love options.
But we know Nintendo loves to make crap online play.
Until they remove friend codes, its never going to be good.
There are enough websites to make friendcodes not too much of a barrier in making friends and playing with them, but playing against completely random people who you don't even know the name or general skill level of is going to be LAME. Especially considering the HUGE power gaps between bad players, scrubby players, somewhat bad players, decent players, good players and epically amazing players.
I think that maybe Brawl was delayed because maybe Sakurai could barely get Sonic in and is still working on him. Either that, or he's making online better.
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
I agree with the online co-op
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 16, 2007, 03:37:36 AM
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
Wow, that's one of the stupidest posts I've read in a while! One character does not cause an entire game to be delayed for two month's, that doesn't even make sense, considering we don't know how long sonic has been in the game, but going by what the melee team said about characters, if they have a complete moveset, they've been in the game for quite sometime. The Snapshots update showed that not everything in the game is done, because there still planning a few features.And Solid Snake is popular and well known,the Metal gear franchise is very succesful, the solid series being best sellers.
Whatever the online is. Such as online co-op.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 16, 2007, 03:37:36 AM
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
... I know a hell of a lot more people who know Snake than say... Pit or Lucas. Even that's a little unfair, I bet I know more people who know about Snake than Marth, and he's been in SSBM before.
Quote from: FULL_METAL_RYDER2 on October 16, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 16, 2007, 03:37:36 AM
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
Wow, that's one of the stupidest posts I've read in a while! One character does not cause an entire game to be delayed for two month's, that doesn't even make sense, considering we don't know how long sonic has been in the game, but going by what the melee team said about characters, if they have a complete moveset, they've been in the game for quite sometime. The Snapshots update showed that not everything in the game is done, because there still planning a few features.And Solid Snake is popular and well known,the Metal gear franchise is very succesful, the solid series being best sellers.
Quote from: FULL_METAL_RYDER2 on October 16, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 16, 2007, 03:37:36 AM
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
Wow, that's one of the stupidest posts I've read in a while! One character does not cause an entire game to be delayed for two month's, that doesn't even make sense, considering we don't know how long sonic has been in the game, but going by what the melee team said about characters, if they have a complete moveset, they've been in the game for quite sometime. The Snapshots update showed that not everything in the game is done, because there still planning a few features.And Solid Snake is popular and well known,the Metal gear franchise is very succesful, the solid series being best sellers.
I don't think stupidest is even a word, but I see that I didn't prove my point well enough. Think about it. Sakurai doesn't ask Sega if he could put Sonic in his game. Sega isn't going to have an answer for him in one day. I'm sure the process is more complicated than that. Plus, because Sonic's in Sakurai has to have a Sonic stage designed which just makes more work for everybody. Sonic will most likely have trophies too. Sega also has to have a conference with Nintendo about Sonic being in brawl. So, don't tell me that it's not extra work to get in a third party character. We didn't find out about the Dec 3 release till last summer. Just because he said info on the delay on Oct 12 didn't been it occured on that day that the staff new they needed more time.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 17, 2007, 03:38:42 AM
Quote from: FULL_METAL_RYDER2 on October 16, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on October 16, 2007, 03:37:36 AM
An online co-opertive play? Don't you think that's a bit extreme. It looks fun enough to play alone. He had to have gotten into a lot of trouble to get Sonic in which could possibly be recent project. The game would've been quicker to make if Sonic wasn't included and the launch might have stayed Dec 3. Yes, I agree that Snake wasn't a problem especially since he was in the game from the start after we saw the trailer which was a huge spoiler for the MGS fans while the rest of us didn't even know who he was. Snake doesn't deserve to be in Brawl. He only got in there because his creator and Sakurai are friends. Is Snake really that popular and well-known?
Wow, that's one of the stupidest posts I've read in a while! One character does not cause an entire game to be delayed for two month's, that doesn't even make sense, considering we don't know how long sonic has been in the game, but going by what the melee team said about characters, if they have a complete moveset, they've been in the game for quite sometime. The Snapshots update showed that not everything in the game is done, because there still planning a few features.And Solid Snake is popular and well known,the Metal gear franchise is very succesful, the solid series being best sellers.
I don't think stupidest is even a word, but I see that I didn't prove my point well enough. Think about it. Sakurai doesn't ask Sega if he could put Sonic in his game. Sega isn't going to have an answer for him in one day. I'm sure the process is more complicated than that. Plus, because Sonic's in Sakurai has to have a Sonic stage designed which just makes more work for everybody. Sonic will most likely have trophies too. Sega also has to have a conference with Nintendo about Sonic being in brawl. So, don't tell me that it's not extra work to get in a third party character. We didn't find out about the Dec 3 release till last summer. Just because he said info on the delay on Oct 12 didn't been it occured on that day that the staff new they needed more time.
That still doesn't make ANY since at all, everything you listed is the PROCESS of getting him in, he's already in the game, and since he has been getting the same amount of representation as Snake did when he was announced, I'd assume there are stages and trophies are all done, considering a trophy is just art from an old game with a paragraph of written information by it, I highly doubt that takes much time at all. Why would they delay the effing game to get him in, if he's already in?
again, you make no sense.
Quote from: Cornwad on October 15, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
Mabye they saw the negetive comments towards the online and are making it better... please?
I hope so. This game would be so much better without friend codes. Well, any game would, but whatever.
I thought it was confirmed that there would be online co-op. Right around when the release date and Sonic were confirmed :P
I think they're just gonna polish the gameplay. I'd think that by now they'd have most of the elements of the game programmed in, they just want a long time to test it and to polish off the fighting. maybe balance the characters more (meta knight looks like he's too powerful already just from the videos).
Mabye the thing in this picture is so amazing, it takes four months to finish :O
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various07/various07_071012g.jpg)
Quote from: Cornwad on October 17, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
Mabye the thing in this picture is so amazing, it takes four months to finish :O
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various07/various07_071012g.jpg)
HAHA! MAYBE!
Quote from: wiiboychris on October 17, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on October 17, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
Mabye the thing in this picture is so amazing, it takes four months to finish :O
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various07/various07_071012g.jpg)
HAHA! MAYBE!
Brilliant!
The new mode is to add a kitty in to any of your pictures! :P
They just needed more time. It's probably several things.
I'm thinking they are improving wi-fi. Maybe they are putting more into Subspace.
Quote from: OCD1 on October 17, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on October 15, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
Mabye they saw the negetive comments towards the online and are making it better... please?
I hope so. This game would be so much better without friend codes. Well, any game would, but whatever.
who cares about fc's now since we can share them here that way you know you will fight your friends and random hackers, or people that drop out when they are loseing
Quote from: Commissar Andy on October 17, 2007, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: OCD1 on October 17, 2007, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on October 15, 2007, 12:55:38 PM
Mabye they saw the negetive comments towards the online and are making it better... please?
I hope so. This game would be so much better without friend codes. Well, any game would, but whatever.
who cares about fc's now since we can share them here that way you know you will fight your friends and random hackers, or people that drop out when they are loseing
Yeah...
Quote from: Cornwad on October 17, 2007, 09:57:25 AM
I thought it was confirmed that there would be online co-op. Right around when the release date and Sonic were confirmed :P
It was lol... I bet they are adding new MODES to wifi. I mean, with online sandbag, coop, and maybe 1v1, 2v2, ffa, maybe even multiman or target test over wifi? that stuff might take a while to work on. I think it is not only polishing wifi but adding modes to it as well.
In game developement to add more in demand characters. Sonic (I believe) was only added to the game because he was in so high demand. That's what I believe they are doing with other charaters IMO :)
You know what would be sick? You can make videos of fights.