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The Smash Canceling Experiment Trials!

Started by Shujinco2, December 21, 2007, 03:45:44 PM

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Shujinco2

Well, I got this idea while I was talking to Dawei. I asked him if there is a way to Smash Cancel, and he said no. BUT, he also said it would be the motherload of moves for mind games, so that's why I'm going to try finding out (If I can) how to smash cancel!

If some people would help me out with this, I'd appreciate it VERY much. As I can't play Melee for another 2 or 3 weeks, this can't be done with me alone!

Well, I'm going to start this out slow. This is most likely not going to work, but I have to do EVERY possibility before I can consider this real or not, so I'm starting with this!

BTW, Dawei and other great smashers, I KNOW THIS MAY NOT WORK, but Dawei said so himself, it would be the MOTHERLODE of all mind game techniques, so that's why I'm trying anyway.

Here goes nothing!


Testers:
Triforce_Luigi
Dawei
Grim_Tuesday
Ridely



Smash Canceling Experiment Trial 1:

Basically, Use Fox's or Gannondorf's (Or any other character's who Up+Smash lifts them in the air.) UP+A smash attack, but try Air dodging while doing it.

Results:
     Failed with all characters.

Notes: Apparently, Up Smashing and leaving the ground doesn't count as a jump. :-\


Smash Canceling Experiment Trial 2:

While using a Kirby Smash Attack, simply use Kirby's Down+B move.

Results:
     Up+A smash:
     Down+A smash:
     Forward+A smash:
     Back+A smash:

Notes: If sucessful, stone would cause too much lag.


Smash Canceling Experiment Trial 3:

Grab a ledge or go off a platform while doing your Smash Attack. Probably done best with Link's Forward Smash.

Results:
     Failure.

Notes: Can only be done with smash attacks that move the character.

Triforce_Luigi

This sounds intriguing. I do believe I will help in this.

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:02:37 PM
This sounds intriguing. I do believe I will help in this.
YAYZ!

Now, since Dawei is pretty good, I'm PRETTY sure he has a copy of Melee, so I hope he can help out too! ;D

Triforce_Luigi

Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Triforce_Luigi

Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?
Well, whoever does it. DSoesn't matter.

I just wish I had a freaking wii! :( Then I could finally start playing Melee again, and experiment around a bit. :(

Triforce_Luigi

Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?
Well, whoever does it. DSoesn't matter.

I just wish I had a freaking wii! :( Then I could finally start playing Melee again, and experiment around a bit. :(

What about your GameCube?

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?
Well, whoever does it. DSoesn't matter.

I just wish I had a freaking wii! :( Then I could finally start playing Melee again, and experiment around a bit. :(

What about your GameCube?
If I could find the rest of the pieces of it, but I don't think it would work. :(

Triforce_Luigi

Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?
Well, whoever does it. DSoesn't matter.

I just wish I had a freaking wii! :( Then I could finally start playing Melee again, and experiment around a bit. :(

What about your GameCube?
If I could find the rest of the pieces of it, but I don't think it would work. :(

Wait... Pieces? I'm not sure I want to know...

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:34:19 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on December 21, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on December 21, 2007, 04:08:12 PM
Results: Failed
Notes: I used Falco, whose Up Smash is basically the same as Fox's Up Smash. It didn't work, even with my most perfect timing. It may differ between characters however, because I was too lazy to try them all.
ALRIGHT! 1 step closer to finding the truth!

Now, try other characters.

Didn't I just say I was too lazy?
Well, whoever does it. DSoesn't matter.

I just wish I had a freaking wii! :( Then I could finally start playing Melee again, and experiment around a bit. :(

What about your GameCube?
If I could find the rest of the pieces of it, but I don't think it would work. :(

Wait... Pieces? I'm not sure I want to know...
It got Falcon Pawnch'd. :(

Shujinco2

Alright, I added another Experament trial to the list for some people to try out.

So have fun and give me the results!

Triforce_Luigi

Results: All failed
Notes: I find there is too much lag after a Smash attack to launch Kirby's Stone attack.

Dawei

The kirby thing wouldn't work that great anyway because of the lag from it afterwards.

Anyway, I would help, but my friend and I are having some intense C. Falcon vs. Fox matches, and I doubt he would be willing to. Maybe tomorrow.

Shujinco2

Quote from: Dawei on December 21, 2007, 07:18:06 PM
The kirby thing wouldn't work that great anyway because of the lag from it afterwards.

Anyway, I would help, but my friend and I are having some intense C. Falcon vs. Fox matches, and I doubt he would be willing to. Maybe tomorrow.
Well, I'll add you anyway. ;)

Hmm, since the Up smash theory failed, what should I try next?

*Thinks*

We should see what happens if you happen to grab a ledge while doing your Smash Attack!