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The current tier list.

Started by CommanderFlint, December 31, 2007, 09:13:53 AM

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CommanderFlint

It was never Sakurai's intention for tiers to exist. He wanted every character balanced and even with there own strengths and weaknesses. However it's impossible to avoid tiers in any competitive game (Pokemon's a example: lol you expect a Metapod to own a Groundon?) Anyways here's the tier list. A tier list is based on how well a character performs in a balanced area(No items, and stage is Final Destination,etc.) oh and it's usually exprimented with human players and low level computers(lv 9 computers don't actually fight like humans). Correct me if I'm wrong.

Top Tier
Fox
Falco

High Tier
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Middle Tier
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Dr.Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf

Low Tier
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu

Bottom Tier
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr.Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo

You'll notice that Speed is a great factor and there ability to reduce lag too. :o Anyways if your dissapointed with the list complain to pros at the Smashboards, not me. Whenever this tier list is posted people complain that Link, Mewtwo, Roy, Kirby, and Ganondorfare too low. OH WELL. I use Ness and Captain Falcon. It's always good to have a higher tier character to use if your low tier one is too low on the list from your opponent. Oh and don't think just because your using a high tier character that you'll win. Your skill matters more then tiers, but they still effect the way you play.

Ridley

Good job making the list. Can you make one based on what we saw from the Brawl Trailors for the Brawl characters?
...Friend codes were probably implemented by the same people who wanted tripping in Brawl...
...It's quite obvious...

CommanderFlint

I didn't make it lol. IDK. But I heard Mario or Peach were awesome there.

Ridley

Quote from: CommanderFlint on December 31, 2007, 09:33:28 AM
I didn't make it lol. IDK. But I heard Mario or Peach were awesome there.

Also Fox has been nerfed.
...Friend codes were probably implemented by the same people who wanted tripping in Brawl...
...It's quite obvious...

Shujinco2

Quote from: CommanderFlint on December 31, 2007, 09:13:53 AM
It was never Sakurai's intention for tiers to exist. He wanted every character balanced and even with there own strengths and weaknesses. However it's impossible to avoid tiers in any competitive game (Pokemon's a example: lol you expect a Metapod to own a Groundon?) Anyways here's the tier list. A tier list is based on how well a character performs in a balanced area(No items, and stage is Final Destination,etc.) oh and it's usually exprimented with human players and low level computers(lv 9 computers don't actually fight like humans). Correct me if I'm wrong.

Top Tier
Fox
Falco

High Tier
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Middle Tier
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Dr.Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf

Low Tier
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu

Bottom Tier
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr.Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo

You'll notice that Speed is a great factor and there ability to reduce lag too. :o Anyways if your dissapointed with the list complain to pros at the Smashboards, not me. Whenever this tier list is posted people complain that Link, Mewtwo, Roy, Kirby, and Ganondorfare too low. OH WELL. I use Ness and Captain Falcon. It's always good to have a higher tier character to use if your low tier one is too low on the list from your opponent. Oh and don't think just because your using a high tier character that you'll win. Your skill matters more then tiers, but they still effect the way you play.
:O

Captain Falcon, THAT WAS IT!

Dawei

Why do you guys compliment him, but when I brought the tiers here so long ago you said they were Bulll poop. AHHHHHHHHHH

So yeah, you're a little late Commander. I've taught them a good amount of basic professional stuff. I'm not sure what I've forgot, but if you have the need to educate these under-educated Smashers, try to think more outside of the box.

CommanderFlint

Well that thing where training on lower level computers improves you better was clever through right? :P I just found that out two months ago. I'm using lv. 7s to train now.

Dawei

Quote from: CommanderFlint on December 31, 2007, 09:49:38 AM
Well that thing where training on lower level computers improves you better was clever through right? :P I just found that out two months ago. I'm using lv. 7s to train now.
A little late again, but better :P.

I usually use 1s simply because of my own mindgame (don't want to start accepting them as real people) and 8s because 9's have inhuman reflexes. I also use 5's occasionally because anything past that DIs the same way every time.

Shujinco2

Quote from: Dawei on December 31, 2007, 09:44:37 AM
Why do you guys compliment him, but when I brought the tiers here so long ago you said they were Bulll s***. AHHHHHHHHHH

So yeah, you're a little late Commander. I've taught them a good amount of basic professional stuff. I'm not sure what I've forgot, but if you have the need to educate these under-educated Smashers, try to think more outside of the box.
He tought me a BUNCH of stuffs! ;D

I just wish I could play more. :(

Triforceman22

Link's low tier....:(

But how could ganondorf beat him?!
Link's way faster, and attacks faster than the big G... :-\


QuoteRobotnik: GET A LOAD OF THIS!!!!!!!!

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforceman22 on December 31, 2007, 10:28:36 AM
Link's low tier....:(

But how could ganondorf beat him?!
Link's way faster, and attacks faster than the big G... :-\
Yes, BUT, While Ganon is VERY strong, Ganon is a fast Heavy Weight! PLAY, Most of Ganon's moves don't have a lot of lag.

CommanderFlint

Cause he's so darn powerful. And his SHFFLing's great. And Ganon's moves lag(Most heavy characters do).

Triforceman22

Quote from: CommanderFlint on December 31, 2007, 10:51:27 AM
Cause he's so darn powerful. And his SHFFLing's great. And Ganon's moves lag(Most heavy characters do).

Yeah, that's kind of logic I guess...
but i will still alwys use Link. :)


QuoteRobotnik: GET A LOAD OF THIS!!!!!!!!

Shujinco2

Quote from: Triforceman22 on December 31, 2007, 11:21:44 AM
Quote from: CommanderFlint on December 31, 2007, 10:51:27 AM
Cause he's so darn powerful. And his SHFFLing's great. And Ganon's moves lag(Most heavy characters do).

Yeah, that's kind of logic I guess...
but i will still alwys use Link. :)
:O

YOUR LINK VS. MY NESS opr JIGGLYPUFF!

Java

#14
I don't think anyone's posted a Tier List here yet.
Very nice.

My apologies Dawei if you did because I haven't seen it.


Also, how come you don't post at NS2 anymore Flint?