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Started by PHOENIXBLAST, January 26, 2008, 11:13:46 AM

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Bowser Jr.
Geno

PHOENIXBLAST

Oh for Bowser Jr.'s Up A (recover right?) his paintbrush is thrown up, and draws a little rope or something (similar to Lucas' snake) and then he uses it to come up.

His side B or something wrong be using his paintbrush like a sword or something.

Tupin

I know what one of Geno's taunts could be...

He turns himself back into a doll for a few seconds.


Quote from: SkyMyl
Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.

Nayrman

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
I know what one of Geno's taunts could be...

He turns himself back into a doll for a few seconds.
He is the doll. Outside of the doll he's just a star spirit (like a poltergeist or something...they never really explain it)

Tupin

Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
I know what one of Geno's taunts could be...

He turns himself back into a doll for a few seconds.
He is the doll. Outside of the doll he's just a star spirit (like a poltergeist or something...they never really explain it)
But he can turn himself into an inanimate object, he does after you assemble the seven stars.


Quote from: SkyMyl
Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.

Nayrman

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
I know what one of Geno's taunts could be...

He turns himself back into a doll for a few seconds.
He is the doll. Outside of the doll he's just a star spirit (like a poltergeist or something...they never really explain it)
But he can turn himself into an inanimate object, he does after you assemble the seven stars.
Oh now I get what you mean. I thought you meant posses the doll or something.

Apollo

Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
ok well one big thing people like to try and point out is that bowser jr would just be a clone from bowser.
i disagree because he has potential for many moves of his own. i would love to see his bubbly teleportation.
Clone because he hasn't done anything Bowser hasn't done (without his Brush). If anyting he does LESS than Bowser himself does, thus leaving my wonder why he should be in the first place. Geno has probably one of the easiest special movelists/FS to make out of every character in teh game.
but theres a lot of characters that arent much different from other characters
like falco
Recent games have shown some diversity. In the two games Luigi headlined in (Mario 2 and Mansion) he was VERY different than Mario, there are now other weapons in Star Fox that Falco can use now, etc. I still have yet to see Bjr use anything unique other than running away when I wup him again.
(This is coming right off of my head)
Geno:
B: Rocket Punch - longer the hold the farther and more damage it does (can be rapidly used like Falco's blaster)
B Forward: Star Shooter - shoots stars that lie around on the ground and if touch explode or denotate by themselves over a short time
B down: Geno blast- Shoots the ground with his energy beam to create a shockwave on the ground, if used in the air it pushes him upwards slighty and the beam just goes to the ground
B up: Um...I honestly don't have clue on this one. I need some time to think of one for this. Sorry (goes to check youtube vids)
Final Smash: Geno Whirl - it does 9999 damage in RPG...so of course this is his final smash. Does a ton of damage without as much knockback.
nice moveset i guess
i dont like the ton of damage final samsh though
you cant say that bowser jrs always getting his butt kicked because all villains from all games are also "always getting their butts kicked"

Nayrman

Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
ok well one big thing people like to try and point out is that bowser jr would just be a clone from bowser.
i disagree because he has potential for many moves of his own. i would love to see his bubbly teleportation.
Clone because he hasn't done anything Bowser hasn't done (without his Brush). If anyting he does LESS than Bowser himself does, thus leaving my wonder why he should be in the first place. Geno has probably one of the easiest special movelists/FS to make out of every character in teh game.
but theres a lot of characters that arent much different from other characters
like falco
Recent games have shown some diversity. In the two games Luigi headlined in (Mario 2 and Mansion) he was VERY different than Mario, there are now other weapons in Star Fox that Falco can use now, etc. I still have yet to see Bjr use anything unique other than running away when I wup him again.
(This is coming right off of my head)
Geno:
B: Rocket Punch - longer the hold the farther and more damage it does (can be rapidly used like Falco's blaster)
B Forward: Star Shooter - shoots stars that lie around on the ground and if touch explode or denotate by themselves over a short time
B down: Geno blast- Shoots the ground with his energy beam to create a shockwave on the ground, if used in the air it pushes him upwards slighty and the beam just goes to the ground
B up: Um...I honestly don't have clue on this one. I need some time to think of one for this. Sorry (goes to check youtube vids)
Final Smash: Geno Whirl - it does 9999 damage in RPG...so of course this is his final smash. Does a ton of damage without as much knockback.
nice moveset i guess
i dont like the ton of damage final samsh though
you cant say that bowser jrs always getting his butt kicked because all villains from all games are also "always getting their butts kicked"
I mean a slightly above average damage FS (not a 999 damage or something....).
I mean how Bjr is a complete wimp...he doesn't seem to ever pose a serious threat to the gamer. Bowser was tough as crap in the old games, Ganon is as fearsome as ever, Eggman is still an evil mad scientist, etc. Bjr has never once been hard or troublesome...just a pain in the ass

Tupin

Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 27, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
I know what one of Geno's taunts could be...

He turns himself back into a doll for a few seconds.
He is the doll. Outside of the doll he's just a star spirit (like a poltergeist or something...they never really explain it)
But he can turn himself into an inanimate object, he does after you assemble the seven stars.
Oh now I get what you mean. I thought you meant posses the doll or something.
Well, he is a possessed doll that was sent to help Mario by a higher authority, and he makes himself lifeless after you collect all the stars.


Quote from: SkyMyl
Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.

Apollo

Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
ok well one big thing people like to try and point out is that bowser jr would just be a clone from bowser.
i disagree because he has potential for many moves of his own. i would love to see his bubbly teleportation.
Clone because he hasn't done anything Bowser hasn't done (without his Brush). If anyting he does LESS than Bowser himself does, thus leaving my wonder why he should be in the first place. Geno has probably one of the easiest special movelists/FS to make out of every character in teh game.
but theres a lot of characters that arent much different from other characters
like falco
Recent games have shown some diversity. In the two games Luigi headlined in (Mario 2 and Mansion) he was VERY different than Mario, there are now other weapons in Star Fox that Falco can use now, etc. I still have yet to see Bjr use anything unique other than running away when I wup him again.
(This is coming right off of my head)
Geno:
B: Rocket Punch - longer the hold the farther and more damage it does (can be rapidly used like Falco's blaster)
B Forward: Star Shooter - shoots stars that lie around on the ground and if touch explode or denotate by themselves over a short time
B down: Geno blast- Shoots the ground with his energy beam to create a shockwave on the ground, if used in the air it pushes him upwards slighty and the beam just goes to the ground
B up: Um...I honestly don't have clue on this one. I need some time to think of one for this. Sorry (goes to check youtube vids)
Final Smash: Geno Whirl - it does 9999 damage in RPG...so of course this is his final smash. Does a ton of damage without as much knockback.
nice moveset i guess
i dont like the ton of damage final samsh though
you cant say that bowser jrs always getting his butt kicked because all villains from all games are also "always getting their butts kicked"
I mean a slightly above average damage FS (not a 999 damage or something....).
I mean how Bjr is a complete wimp...he doesn't seem to ever pose a serious threat to the gamer. Bowser was tough as crap in the old games, Ganon is as fearsome as ever, Eggman is still an evil mad scientist, etc. Bjr has never once been hard or troublesome...just a pain in the ass
it cold also be that he is a mini boss
mini bosses are never really that hard

PHOENIXBLAST

Quote from: PHOENIXBLAST on January 27, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
Oh for Bowser Jr.'s Up A (recover right?) his paintbrush is thrown up, and draws a little rope or something (similar to Lucas' snake) and then he uses it to come up.

His side B or something wrong be using his paintbrush like a sword or something.


Anyone? No critism?

Nayrman

Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
ok well one big thing people like to try and point out is that bowser jr would just be a clone from bowser.
i disagree because he has potential for many moves of his own. i would love to see his bubbly teleportation.
Clone because he hasn't done anything Bowser hasn't done (without his Brush). If anyting he does LESS than Bowser himself does, thus leaving my wonder why he should be in the first place. Geno has probably one of the easiest special movelists/FS to make out of every character in teh game.
but theres a lot of characters that arent much different from other characters
like falco
Recent games have shown some diversity. In the two games Luigi headlined in (Mario 2 and Mansion) he was VERY different than Mario, there are now other weapons in Star Fox that Falco can use now, etc. I still have yet to see Bjr use anything unique other than running away when I wup him again.
(This is coming right off of my head)
Geno:
B: Rocket Punch - longer the hold the farther and more damage it does (can be rapidly used like Falco's blaster)
B Forward: Star Shooter - shoots stars that lie around on the ground and if touch explode or denotate by themselves over a short time
B down: Geno blast- Shoots the ground with his energy beam to create a shockwave on the ground, if used in the air it pushes him upwards slighty and the beam just goes to the ground
B up: Um...I honestly don't have clue on this one. I need some time to think of one for this. Sorry (goes to check youtube vids)
Final Smash: Geno Whirl - it does 9999 damage in RPG...so of course this is his final smash. Does a ton of damage without as much knockback.
nice moveset i guess
i dont like the ton of damage final samsh though
you cant say that bowser jrs always getting his butt kicked because all villains from all games are also "always getting their butts kicked"
I mean a slightly above average damage FS (not a 999 damage or something....).
I mean how Bjr is a complete wimp...he doesn't seem to ever pose a serious threat to the gamer. Bowser was tough as crap in the old games, Ganon is as fearsome as ever, Eggman is still an evil mad scientist, etc. Bjr has never once been hard or troublesome...just a pain in the ass
it cold also be that he is a mini boss
mini bosses are never really that hard
Since when does a mini-boss deserve getting into Smash then when there are many other full bosses that should get in first? (Vaati, Wolf, Ridley, etc.)

Apollo

Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 01:28:30 PM
ok well one big thing people like to try and point out is that bowser jr would just be a clone from bowser.
i disagree because he has potential for many moves of his own. i would love to see his bubbly teleportation.
Clone because he hasn't done anything Bowser hasn't done (without his Brush). If anyting he does LESS than Bowser himself does, thus leaving my wonder why he should be in the first place. Geno has probably one of the easiest special movelists/FS to make out of every character in teh game.
but theres a lot of characters that arent much different from other characters
like falco
Recent games have shown some diversity. In the two games Luigi headlined in (Mario 2 and Mansion) he was VERY different than Mario, there are now other weapons in Star Fox that Falco can use now, etc. I still have yet to see Bjr use anything unique other than running away when I wup him again.
(This is coming right off of my head)
Geno:
B: Rocket Punch - longer the hold the farther and more damage it does (can be rapidly used like Falco's blaster)
B Forward: Star Shooter - shoots stars that lie around on the ground and if touch explode or denotate by themselves over a short time
B down: Geno blast- Shoots the ground with his energy beam to create a shockwave on the ground, if used in the air it pushes him upwards slighty and the beam just goes to the ground
B up: Um...I honestly don't have clue on this one. I need some time to think of one for this. Sorry (goes to check youtube vids)
Final Smash: Geno Whirl - it does 9999 damage in RPG...so of course this is his final smash. Does a ton of damage without as much knockback.
nice moveset i guess
i dont like the ton of damage final samsh though
you cant say that bowser jrs always getting his butt kicked because all villains from all games are also "always getting their butts kicked"
I mean a slightly above average damage FS (not a 999 damage or something....).
I mean how Bjr is a complete wimp...he doesn't seem to ever pose a serious threat to the gamer. Bowser was tough as crap in the old games, Ganon is as fearsome as ever, Eggman is still an evil mad scientist, etc. Bjr has never once been hard or troublesome...just a pain in the ass
it cold also be that he is a mini boss
mini bosses are never really that hard
Since when does a mini-boss deserve getting into Smash then when there are many other full bosses that should get in first? (Vaati, Wolf, Ridley, etc.)
omg
i do love vaati
but if thats your point then why are sidekicks in as well?

Apollo

Quote from: PHOENIXBLAST on January 27, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: PHOENIXBLAST on January 27, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
Oh for Bowser Jr.'s Up A (recover right?) his paintbrush is thrown up, and draws a little rope or something (similar to Lucas' snake) and then he uses it to come up.

His side B or something wrong be using his paintbrush like a sword or something.


Anyone? No critism?
i think he should use his paintbrush for sword like moves.
i would really like to see him teleport by bursting into paint bubbles
i think that should be his up b move.
his down b should be shadow mario

PHOENIXBLAST

Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: PHOENIXBLAST on January 27, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: PHOENIXBLAST on January 27, 2008, 01:44:51 PM
Oh for Bowser Jr.'s Up A (recover right?) his paintbrush is thrown up, and draws a little rope or something (similar to Lucas' snake) and then he uses it to come up.

His side B or something wrong be using his paintbrush like a sword or something.


Anyone? No critism?
i think he should use his paintbrush for sword like moves.
i would really like to see him teleport by bursting into paint bubbles
i think that should be his up b move.
his down b should be shadow mario


Shadow Mario?

So his Up B would be like Metaknight's teleportation thing? So you would hit where you want to go, or would a new bubble appear somewhere randomly?

Nayrman

Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 02:24:47 PM

omg
i do love vaati
but if thats your point then why are sidekicks in as well?

There are three main characters: Main hero, sidekickish characters, main villain.
USually sidekick villains don't do much (which is why Fawful has no real chance)