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Kilroy

Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
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Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
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cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.
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Kaz

Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.

DS game cards aren't really "cartridges," but okay.
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Kilroy

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Quote from: Kaz on May 14, 2008, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.

DS game cards aren't really "cartridges," but okay.
I still don't understand what they are, then.

If Nintendo can make something that small that holds, ugh, I can't remember, a Gig, I think? *goes to Wikipedia* two gigs.

Anyway, why don't they just make the card larger, and use that rather than discs.
1984 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSTRUCTION NOT MANUAL
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Zovistograt

Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: Kaz on May 14, 2008, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.

DS game cards aren't really "cartridges," but okay.
I still don't understand what they are, then.

If Nintendo can make something that small that holds, ugh, I can't remember, a Gig, I think? *goes to Wikipedia* two gigs.

Anyway, why don't they just make the card larger, and use that rather than discs.
They are a kind of SD card-type thing

Why make the card larger when a MicroSD can be the size and thickness of a fingernail and hold a gig?

Also those things cost more $$$ to mass produce.  It would make games and stuff more expensive.
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Kilroy

Quote from: Zovistograt on May 14, 2008, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: Kaz on May 14, 2008, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.

DS game cards aren't really "cartridges," but okay.
I still don't understand what they are, then.

If Nintendo can make something that small that holds, ugh, I can't remember, a Gig, I think? *goes to Wikipedia* two gigs.

Anyway, why don't they just make the card larger, and use that rather than discs.
They are a kind of SD card-type thing

Why make the card larger when a MicroSD can be the size and thickness of a fingernail and hold a gig?

Also those things cost more $$$ to mass produce.  It would make games and stuff more expensive.
That's true. It's good for them, and IMO, bad for us.

Sure, it's cheaper, but, as a generic rule of life is, the more expensive thing is better. I'm not saying that EVERYTHING more expensive is better, but I see this as one of the situations in which it's true.

Discs require loading and a lot of care.
Cartridges do not require loading (technically), and don't need as much care as a Disc.

Discs are cheaper than Cartridges, but that comes at a price. Discs can be gone with a simple scratch, while a cartridge has a lifespan because of the internal battery.

Yes, both have their pros and cons (but what doesn't), but after all that it comes down to opinions. I will always like cartridges.

And also, why make it bigger? Why use Blu-Ray rather than HD-DVD? Blu-Ray has more space than HD-DVD, thus increasing picture quality and the size of the gam in general.
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Tupin

Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.


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Kilroy

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.
This be true.

Sadly.
1984 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSTRUCTION NOT MANUAL
"yes you are anusface, but i am better than!!" - taw, steam forums
 FOR NSF MASCOT

Tupin

Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.
This be true.

Sadly.
Nothing compares to having a physical copy of a game/movie.


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Tuppy frightens me with his knowledge of legacy technology.

BOSSNIG

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.
This be true.

Sadly.
Nothing compares to having a physical copy of a game/movie.

You would need a big HD on a console to digitally distribute games.
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Kilroy

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.
This be true.

Sadly.
Nothing compares to having a physical copy of a game/movie.
The rarity factor will go plop.
1984 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN INSTRUCTION NOT MANUAL
"yes you are anusface, but i am better than!!" - taw, steam forums
 FOR NSF MASCOT

Kaz

Quote from: Darklink on May 14, 2008, 03:50:28 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 14, 2008, 03:42:06 PM
Meh, digital distribution will take over all entertainment like ten years from now.

Sadly.
This be true.

Sadly.
Nothing compares to having a physical copy of a game/movie.

You would need a big HD on a console to digitally distribute games.

Which is quickly becoming easier and less expensive to do. Tuppy's right. That's the direction that technology is progressing in.
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Shujinco2

Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.
Well, I didn't know discs were cheaper. :-\ That changes everything. :-\

HOWEVER, I do like not having to pay 3 dollars everytime I want my cartridge cleaned. I am not very good with putting things back where they belong, and that leads up to VERY scratched up and dirty discs, and $3 per cleaning per disc, it adds up really fast.

And how are discs easier to protect than cartridges? All you really have to do for cartridges is not put it near anything stupid and don't step on it. Those go for CD's too, but you have to keep it away from dust and scratches too, so I kinda don't get that. :-\

However, I guess discs ARE better. But that doesn't mean cartridges aren't good too! Maybe not as good, but still good! Right?

BOSSNIG

Quote from: Shujinco on May 15, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.
Well, I didn't know discs were cheaper. :-\ That changes everything. :-\

HOWEVER, I do like not having to pay 3 dollars everytime I want my cartridge cleaned. I am not very good with putting things back where they belong, and that leads up to VERY scratched up and dirty discs, and $3 per cleaning per disc, it adds up really fast.

And how are discs easier to protect than cartridges? All you really have to do for cartridges is not put it near anything stupid and don't step on it. Those go for CD's too, but you have to keep it away from dust and scratches too, so I kinda don't get that. :-\

However, I guess discs ARE better. But that doesn't mean cartridges aren't good too! Maybe not as good, but still good! Right?

Ahahahahaha. You pay to clean discs.

Buy a Disk Doctor, works great and fixes it every time for me.
IF U WERE KILLED TOMORROW, I WOULDNT GO 2 UR FUNERAL CUZ ID B N JAIL 4 KILLIN DA MOTHA FUKER THAT KILLED U!
..._.....____________________, ,
....../ `---___________----_____] = = = = = D
...../_==o;;;;;;;;_______.:/
.....), ---.(_(__) /
....// (..) ), ----"
...//___//
..//___//
.//___//

WE TRUE HOMIES
WE RIDE TOGETHER
WE DIE TOGETHER

Shujinco2

Quote from: Darklink on May 15, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 15, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 14, 2008, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 13, 2008, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: Olimar on May 13, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on May 13, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on May 13, 2008, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Quote from: Shujinco on May 12, 2008, 01:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on May 12, 2008, 01:26:27 PM
cratridges are a downside.
How? They may have less memory then CD's, but geeze, the slightest scratch, and that CD is as good as gone! With cartridges, just blow, and your good. :)

i have tons of scratches on my smash bros melee disk.  it's all cut up.  I've had it basically since launch, and it still runs fine. :\

cartridges were by far the inferior technology, and nintendo dropped the ball by using them for the N64.
However, even if a scratched disc works, discs have been known to develop strange pits and even holes screwing them up if they're really old.  Some older DVDs are starting to get weird too.
With portability and storage comes the loss of durability.
I still think that discs are inferior. >_>;

:\

not only are discs cheaper, they're more easily mass-produceable, hold more storage space, are faster, allow better boxes, have a better storage system (actually IN the case), and are much easier to protect and run.

the only thing that cartridges have on their side is that they don't require something else to store memory on, which is also a downside, because current gen consoles would not be able to run with that small amount of memory that carts have.

sorry, carts are worse in every way except nostalgia.
Cartridges can hold more space AND go faster, idiot.

Sure, better storage, but who needs storage when all you need to do is blow in it? Sure, the internal battery will eventually die, but I don't see one in a DS cart. Obviously Nintendo sprung an idea.
Well, I didn't know discs were cheaper. :-\ That changes everything. :-\

HOWEVER, I do like not having to pay 3 dollars everytime I want my cartridge cleaned. I am not very good with putting things back where they belong, and that leads up to VERY scratched up and dirty discs, and $3 per cleaning per disc, it adds up really fast.

And how are discs easier to protect than cartridges? All you really have to do for cartridges is not put it near anything stupid and don't step on it. Those go for CD's too, but you have to keep it away from dust and scratches too, so I kinda don't get that. :-\

However, I guess discs ARE better. But that doesn't mean cartridges aren't good too! Maybe not as good, but still good! Right?

Ahahahahaha. You pay to clean discs.

Buy a Disk Doctor, works great and fixes it every time for me.
We have one. It actually doesn't work too well, not for my discs anyway. However, the place we go to to clean our discs does a REALLY nice job! Only things that could not be fixed haven't worked after that place. I would ALMOST say it was worth the $3.

Tupin

I just spray Windex on them and clean them with a cloth.


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