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Nayrman

Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"

uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.

so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill  a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
Actually, electic cars already fill the avg. daily driving requirments for over 80% of america's population (the other twenty mostly being truckers and the like). But car companies refuse to make them...cuz they don't want to lose their pals in the oil industry.
We do need to change to SOMETHING, or else Cecil is right, long distance will be a thing of the past.

Jono2

there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:

1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.

VROOM VROOM.

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RevolutionSoldier

Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:

1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.

VROOM VROOM.

Here's why the should:

1. A better option for the consumers
2. The Oil will one day run dry regardless weather or not will drill of short it won't last for ever.
3. We will have to eventually switch to something and unlike hydrogen full cell cars eclectic cars won't require tens or hundreds of thousands new fueling stations across the US.
4. Gas Prices
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Gwen Khan

Quote from: ME86 on June 28, 2008, 11:08:01 AM
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Water ☮

Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 28, 2008, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 28, 2008, 10:30:24 AM
there's no reason for a car company to make an electric car, because:

1. they'll lose their oil buddies, prices of cars will subsequently go up.
2. people won't have to buy cars nearly as often.
3. because of 2, mechanics will go out of business.
4. the obvious "A Gasoline-powered vehicle sounds better than an electric vehicle" argument.

VROOM VROOM.

Here's why the should:

1. A better option for the consumers
2. The Oil will one day run dry regardless weather or not will drill of short it won't last for ever.
3. We will have to eventually switch to something and unlike hydrogen full cell cars eclectic cars won't require tens or hundreds of thousands new fueling stations across the US.
4. Gas Prices
no government really cares about the environment.
They don't care how low on oil they are as long as they sell it and are left with the most money so they can all die happy knowing they had the most money.

Silverhawk79

Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"

uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.

so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill  a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.

The Seventh

Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:37:09 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 27, 2008, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: Blaziken on June 27, 2008, 08:26:15 PM
Why not have electric cars that recharge themselvesas they drive?

Basicailly, have a battery to get the car going, and have some sort of generator on each of the the 4 wheels that charges the battery and keeps the car going.
Does that qualify as perpetual motion? Where does the car get its initial charge?
Lrn2rd
Dude, I had the exact same idea.  But use even more of the cars moving parts (like the AC fan) to get even more charge.  Also using regenative braking would help, too.  That way, fuel would never be needed.

I even thought of a pure permanent magnet motor.  But the flaw in that is the magnets eventually de-magnetize...

If there's ever another alternative fuel, it'd be either ethanol (even though it isn't as efficient as gasoline or diesel) or hydrogen (get more hydrogen stations d*** it!).

Besides, the only way to effectively reduce gas prices is to start drilling off shore.  It's just that the d*** Democrat's (who are funded by environmentalist b******s who only want to see the world economies get blown apart) don't agree with it and say "there's environmantal implications to it", and yet CHINA is drilling where we could be drilling.  They're getting money off our congress's (more like the Democrats) stupidity.  And besides, drilling technology and practices has made the process cleaner and more efficient.  Geez.
meh

Tupin

If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.

Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:

1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.


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Cecil_and_Kain

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Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 28, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"

uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.

so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill  a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
I don't deny the possibility either, to tell you the truth...  :-[

Nayrman

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.

Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:

1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
1. That has nothing to do with the fuel stuff
2. It's called marketing dumbasses
3. Depends on the type of car. Electric sedan is less expensive than a huge Hummer
4. And yet people spend $40000+ for a new BMW...so I don't know what you're talking about.

RevolutionSoldier

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.

Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:

1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.

I may cost more to make a electric car but that true about every new thing that comes out. The first cell phone were huge you needed a bag pack for them and there were about 4 grand and that was when the dollar was munch stronger. Now the iphone Phone is about 4 hundred. Prices drop over time.
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Totla

Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"
There's enough oil in ANWR, the gulf, Colorado, etc. for the USA to sustain itself for about ten years. So if we take some of that, and some from other countries, and ration it out for a while while we figure out a realistic alternative then yes, oil could save humanity from a crisis.
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 28, 2008, 12:21:52 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 28, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2008, 10:13:12 PM
Quote from: RevolutionSoldier on June 27, 2008, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on June 27, 2008, 10:05:54 PM
Quote from: Cecil_and_Kain on June 27, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Totla on June 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on June 27, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
Why can't we use Alaska again?
Liberals. Who are backed by environmentalists, who wouldn't let us drill if the fate of humanity was at stake.
Do you seriously think oil would save humanity from any form of crisis? -_-"

uhh, if all the oil were to disappear now, the world would be in chaos.

so yes.
Oil will not save us. Oil it hurting humanity deeply. I think we need to stop using oil all together with in the next 40 or 50 years and start doing it now. We need to consider the effects we have on our planet that will come back to bite us. We could have this problem solved by now if the oil and automobile company did not kill the eclectic car or if the oil company's did not kill  a water power car. Or maybe if GM worried about whats will happen 6 years down the line in stead of 6 month and did not stop producing electric cars or destroyed the one out there maybe we would have some better options right now.
Not going to happen. There are billions of cars on the road (possible exaggeration), and 99% of them run on gas. There's no way we'll ever be able to convert them all to electric, and think about airplanes and ships. Electric engines sure as hell won't work as their main propulsion systems, unless they make ultra-powerful energy cells in the future.
So what you are suggesting is that when every drop of oil is gone, distant transportation as we know it will cease to exist.
It's possible.
I don't deny the possibility either, to tell you the truth...  :-[
what's a sail boat lol

Jono2

Quote from: Nayrman on June 28, 2008, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on June 28, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
If no new reserves are discovered, oil will be completely gone by the end of the century.

Car companies are too afraid to make electric cars because:

1. No one will buy them because they think electric cars are slow.
2. They are afraid that bigger, less expensive gas burning cars will outshine the electric ones.
3. It costs more to make an electric car.
4. Even though people hate gas prices and would do anything to make them cheaper, they wouldn't buy an electric car over a gas one because it is more expensive.
1. That has nothing to do with the fuel stuff
2. It's called marketing dumbasses
3. Depends on the type of car. Electric sedan is less expensive than a huge Hummer
4. And yet people spend $40000+ for a new BMW...so I don't know what you're talking about.

it makes total sense.  the people who can afford $40,000 for a new BMW are the people who aren't really affected by rising gas prices.  the people who can't afford rising gas prices can't afford to spend money on an electric car either.

Quote from: LinkXLR on January 30, 2008, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: famy on January 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
is big willy unleashed a will smith game

...I'm not even gonna touch this one.

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Chaos

Well, apperently in Japan they're making a water powered car. No joke. Well, I heard and saw it on Youtube so, it could be. But anyways, I hope it's real.

But about the gas prices right now, they are murder. One of these days they're going to charge an arm and a leg, for a gallon.