I need someone to argue for me

[Apollo]

can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.

sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing

Like Bowser and King Dedede?  ;D

no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world

Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P

i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance

[Cornwad]

can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.

sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing

Like Bowser and King Dedede?  ;D

no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world

Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P

i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance

Why not? Dedede was always a boss in past games, and Ridley has been in enough games to have an inspired moveset...

And having Ridley as a boss again would be boring :D

[Apollo]

can we move this to another board. this has no relevance to the subject and if mack was here and this was not his thread, he would lock it and tell you to make a new thread for this.

sounds like we got another mackormoses suck up
jk kinda
well anyways
ridley is a really good boss and bosses should be saved for beating up, not playing

Like Bowser and King Dedede?  ;D

no not at all
those characters can easily be made playable
same reason rayquaza isnt playable
sometimes characters just have a certain place in the world

Its not a question on how easy they are to make playable, they must have spent some time getting PT to work out...
And Rayquaza isn't playable because no one likes Rayquaza :P

i like him but yes i agree that he does not belong as playable
ridley may have the desire from public but as far as gameplay he doesnt have a chance

Why not? Dedede was always a boss in past games, and Ridley has been in enough games to have an inspired moveset...

And having Ridley as a boss again would be boring :D

yes there have been many bosses made playable in ssb
but unfortunantly i agree with the games creator
"HAHAHA Ridley aint got no business in smash"
not a direct quote from sakurai if you were wondering

[QingXin]

*digs back to find Ridley article"

Okay... Here we go. Prepare for a dose of nostalgia!!  :D :D :D

Ridley

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Background Info
A high-ranking and bloodthirsty Space Pirate, and one of Samus' main antagonists, Ridley shares features with both the pterodactyl and a dragon. Ridley led the Space Pirate attack on Samus' home colony of K-2L, which inevitably lead to the deaths of all the colonists including Samus' mother and father, the former of which Ridley was directly responsible. Samus has since had a personal vendetta against Ridley because of this, and that coupled with her objective to rid the galaxy of Space Pirates has led to numerous showdowns with the boss throughout the series. It is unknown whether he is in fact the main leader of the Space Pirates, or if he takes orders from someone or something else.

First appearing in the original Metroid and destroyed by Samus, Ridley is always revived by the Pirates. Later versions of Ridley included more advanced cybernetic enhancements, such as powerful kinetic weapons, missile launchers, and force-field wings. This form of Ridley is known as Meta Ridley and appears in Metroid Prime and Metroid Prime 3. In Metroid Prime 3 Meta Ridley returns for a second battle as Omega Ridley, along with enhancements due to Phazon exposure, as well as new techniques. He also makes a cameo as an X-Parasite clone in Metroid Fusion, in Super Smash Bros, where he can be seen flying through the level Zebes and in Super Smash Bros. Melee both as a Trophy and in the game's opening, where he is fighting Samus at Ceres Space Station.

Unlike many other bosses in the series, Ridley doesn't usually require any specific strategy to defeat. Rather, starting in Super Metroid, the battles against him have the player dodge the swiftly flying dragon, along with his flailing tail and his fiery breath, all the while shooting him with a large number of missiles, making him a particularly challenging opponent.

Also introduced in Super Metroid was a musical theme that played during several boss battles. Despite being used for other bosses, the theme became particularly associated with Ridley, and has been featured solely during all the subsequent battles against him. This theme will also be featured in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

Inclusion in Brawl
Ridley is indeed, one of the most wanted characters to appear playable inside Super Smash Bros. Brawl. There are a plethora of reasons for Ridley's inclusion, and here are a few...

1. Ridley's role as a villain is important, and would fit in nicely in Brawl. Ridley would serve as another villain to face off in the playable character roster.

2. He would fill up the microscopic Metroid roster in Brawl when it comes to playable characters. Ridley fits in well, and is deserving to be included.

3. SImply put, he's unique. Don't bring Charizard into this argument, because Ridley and Charizard really aren't that alike. Speaking of arguments...

Common Arguments
Of course, with every popular character, there's always those who are infuriated by the fact of Ridley's inclusion...

1. The biggest argument against Ridley is his size. He's simply too big. That's a load of bull crap. If you recall from the Smash 64 into, Pikachu is rolling on a Pokeball, with people's shoes walking by. Pikachu is no bigger than those feet, but in the game itself, Pikachu is twice the size of that Pokeball.

And let's not forget Bowser of course... He's been resized infinite times in the Mairo franchise, and Smash Bros. is no different. It's also said that Kirby is, apparently, only 8 inches tall. In Smash Bros., Kirby is half the size of Mario, and I doubt that our plumber is only 16 inches tall.

2. Another argument is... Laughable. He would be too much alike to Charizard. Sure, they're both dragon-like, have tails and claws, have wings, and can breath fire, but that doesn't mean a thing. Look at Kirby and Jigglypuff, or Zelda and Peach. Both strikingly similar in appearance, but have totally original movelists for each of them.

Ridley in Brawl

First thing that comes to mind when speaking of Ridley in Brawl is that he'd be slow on the ground, but hone amazing aerial ability. Simply speaking, Ridley wouldn't serve much grounded, but his aerial combat would be much better.

Then we look at Ridley's wings. Perfect qualifying for gliding capabilities and a 5-jump. Also, Ridley may look big, but if you look close, he's very, very scrawny. Yeah, he's still heavy, but not Bowser heavy.

Some say that giving Ridley 5 jumps and making him heavy would make him very hard to KO. Well, yeah. Look at King Dedede. He has a multi jump, and is even called by Sakurai as a "Heavy Hitter".

Let's also not forget Ridley's arsenal of weapons. He's got razor sharp claws, a spear-like tail, a fierce bite, and can breath fire and plasma. That's a force to be reckoned with.

Some cons? Well, for one, Ridley's ground game. Clumsy and slow on the ground may cost him. He'd have some lag time and slow execution of techniques, but makes up for it being a capable aerial fighter.

The Movelist

Stats

Power - 4/5
Range - 4/5
Attacking Speed - 2/5
Running Speed - 1.5/5
Jumping - 5/5
Height - Medium-Tall
Weight - Medium-Heavy


Visuals

Appearance - Ridley flies onto the stage.

Fighting Pose - Ridley's wings are tucked in, and Ridley is hunched forward.

Slow Walk - Ridley slowly creeps forward.

Fast Walk - Ridley moves his feet faster, making stomping noises.

Dash - Ridley spirints forward, with his wings extended back.

Crouch - Ridley is on all fours, with is wings closed tight.

Jump - Ridley leaps upwards.

Midair Jump 1, 2, 3, 4 - Ridley flaps his wings.

Midair Dodge - Ridley quickly flaps away from the screen.

Glide - Ridley's wings are extended out as he glides through the air.

Shield - Ridley conceals himself with his wings.

Forward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.

Backward Roll - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings covering him.

Sidestep Dodge - Ridley leans to the side towards the screen.

Up Taunt - Ridley spreads his wings out and screeches up into the air.

Side Taunt - Ridley flies up a little, performs a back flip loop, and roars forward.

Down Taunt - Ridley flies up and roars forward.


Ground Attacks

A, A, A - Ridley performs two claw swipes, followed by a lunging bite.

Dash A - Ridley hovers forward off the ground and performs a front flip, striking enemies with his tail.

Strong A (Side) - Ridley whips his tail forward.

Strong A (Down) - Ridley open his wings forward, whacking enemies in front of him with them.

Strong A (Up) - A crescent tail swipe upward.

Smash A (Side) - Ridley performs a huge lunging bite.

Smash A (Down) - Ridley spins on the ground, with his wings extended out.

Smash A (Up) - Ridley jumps up a little while clapping his wings together above him.


Aerial Attacks

A - Ridley performs two kick claw swipes.

Smash A (Front) - A quick lunging bite.

Smash A (Back) - Ridley claps his wings behind him.

Smash A (Down) - Ridley drills his tail downward.

Smash A (Up) - Ridley claps his wings upward.


Grabs

Z - Ridley snatches the opponent with one hand.

A - Ridley whips the enemy with his tial.

Front - Ridley grasps onto the opponent's shoulders, places his feet on their chest, and pushes off of them, propelling them back.

Back - Ridley slips one of his open wings underneath the foe's feet and catapults them backwards by flapping his wing back.

Down - Ridley throws the enemy down and performs a midair flip, striking enemies twice with his wings.

Up - Ridley slashes the enemy upwards, flies up, and then throws them forward.


Special Moves

B: Plasma Burst - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will fire forward a beam of plasma forward with limited range. Enemies caught in the beam will be damaged multiple times and knocked back. The duration, size, and distance of the beam depends on how long you charged the attack. The charge is saveable.

Smash B: Take Down - Ridley rushes forward. If he catches an opponent, Ridley will grab them, hurl them upwards, catch them in midair, and drill them into the ground, creating a small tremor that damages nearby opponents. This attack can only be triggered if an opponent is caught during the rush.

Down B: Cyclone - This attack is chargeable. When released, Ridley will spin on the ground, with his wings extended out for 2-5 seconds (depends on how long the attack was charged). Enemies caught in this will be juggled and damaged multiple times, followed by Ridley breaking out of the spin, knocking enemies back. The charge is not savable.

Up B: Crescent Launch - Ridley simply speeds upwards, with his wings tucked in. At the pinnacle of the technique, Ridley will go into a glide. Opponents are damaged from the initial launch.

Final Smash: Sky Splitter - Ridley roars and dashes forward. If he comes in contact with an opponent, he'll fly up with them in his hands, drop them in midair, and then fly off the screen. Ridley will then keep them suspended in the air by continuously soaring back and forth on and off the screen, thrusting through the suspended foe. Afterwards, Ridley will then soar upwards through the foe, launching them up, and come down on them from above, creating a lightning bolt that strikes downward through the opponent and onto the stage. If Ridley does not grab an opponent during the beginning of the Final Smash, then the Sky Splitter will fail.

Thanks for reading!!

Sorry if some of the images don't work... This article is centuries old.

[Cornwad]

I remember those threads... at least you got one out of 4 :P
Mario59s banned anyway... so...

[thunderhero4]

I remember those threads... at least you got one out of 4 :P
Mario59s banned anyway... so...

I also remember the Smash Board posters thread. Those were the days, I was all happy when I had enough intellegent posts to make the list!

[ThePowerOfOne]

Cannot do anything other than say, i guess important is not the right word. *Sharp intake of breath* "Famous"?

I guess it could go either way with that. I would not expect anyone who has only played the Prime games to know who MB is.... but everyone who played the original Metroid or Super Metroid would.

But then again, all of those people would know who Ridley is too :D
Eh... I still think Ridley is the most important non-Samus Metroid character...
Except for U-mos :O

U-Mos would be so awesome in brawl :O

And I don't know why they couldn't have included Ridley in brawl, or even Dark Samus! I would rather have them in brawl rather than Olimar, Ice Climbers, R.O.B, or Wario. They could have resized him easily. They were just lazy.

[Timmy0591]

For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.

[QingXin]

Lol, I wonder if the links to my other articles still work...

[Kilroy]

For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.

Bowser shrank in the last 10 years, believe it or not.

[Cornwad]

For all those people who don't think Ridley could fit in Brawl as a playable character. Just take a look at Bowser in SM64 compaired to how big Mario was. Anything is possible.

Bowser shrank in the last 10 years, believe it or not.

He got much, much bigger in Sunshine, which is what the Mario characters in Brawl are based off of. Well, that and Luigi's Mansion, but he was pretty big there too.

[Timmy0591]

My point is, ANY character can be shrunk to fit a role in a game if one of Nintendo's biggest mascots can.

[Neerb]

What the heck, is this argument STILL going on?!?  People have proved Ridley's functionality in Smash countless times, and people are still saying it's not possible?!?!

1.  SIZE MATTERS NOT!  Olimar was just an inch high, and Bowser was 7x Mario's size in Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, AND Mario Galaxy!  And both Bowser and Olimar are playable!  And for those who say "Bowser was originally just a bit taller than Mario," I've got news for you:  Ridley used to be just a bit bigger than Samus!
2.  Perhaps the worst argument I've heard is speed being a problem.  If he has decent speed as a boss, they could give him decent speed for a character, too!
3.  Who cares if Ridley's a good boss?  You know who else could be a good boss?  GANONDORF!  BOWSER!  WOLF!  DEDEDE!
4.  If the creators of Smash (aka the people who thought ROB deserved to be in more than all but 38 or so other nintendo characters) say "Ridley shouldn't be in" but have no good explanation for it, then quoting them as grounds for argument is just making a giant pitfall for yourself.
5.  Tamjammerz eats people who say "there's no moveset for him" for breakfast.

What more evidence is needed to end this argument?

[Java]

Lol, I wonder if the links to my other articles still work...

Nope.
They link back to the old URL.

[QingXin]

What the heck, is this argument STILL going on?!?  People have proved Ridley's functionality in Smash countless times, and people are still saying it's not possible?!?!

1.  SIZE MATTERS NOT!  Olimar was just an inch high, and Bowser was 7x Mario's size in Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, AND Mario Galaxy!  And both Bowser and Olimar are playable!  And for those who say "Bowser was originally just a bit taller than Mario," I've got news for you:  Ridley used to be just a bit bigger than Samus!
2.  Perhaps the worst argument I've heard is speed being a problem.  If he has decent speed as a boss, they could give him decent speed for a character, too!
3.  Who cares if Ridley's a good boss?  You know who else could be a good boss?  GANONDORF!  BOWSER!  WOLF!  DEDEDE!
4.  If the creators of Smash (aka the people who thought ROB deserved to be in more than all but 38 or so other nintendo characters) say "Ridley shouldn't be in" but have no good explanation for it, then quoting them as grounds for argument is just making a giant pitfall for yourself.
5.  Tamjammerz eats people who say "there's no moveset for him" for breakfast.

What more evidence is needed to end this argument?

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