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Started by Indigo, August 15, 2008, 06:47:07 PM

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Indigo

                            Agree or Dissagree
                            Mario Art ?


                                 Do you think of video games as an actual art form? Many of you may say no, it's just a game, but before you do consider this. In the early 1900's when movies were made it was purely entertainment, but as it evolved to become more and more elaborate it developed a story, a plot, and many memorable characters that can be compared to many book characters. This comes to show an example of evolution there entertainment that reflects on how we envision what are minds accept as entertainment. Cave drawing were just stick figures with pointy sticks, but it changed and morphed into something beatiful and unique.

                                          When games first started it was the story of two paddles playing catch, and now it's something much more. It has living breathing characters with real emotions. You can feel like that is a real person. It's not just jumping over barraels for 500 points. An example is a game in which my opinion is by far the best Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy VI. Not nine, but six. It featured characters who had to find love, themselves, and eachother. It showed the effects of death, and the true feelings of love that could be revealed in something new. This was a major moment for entertainment in gaming. Both graphically and in storytelling. It showed what life feeled like after everyone you cared about died as the planet shattered and almost showed succesful suicide, opera, and amazing visuals.

                                             Games like Crysis have shown the artform of graphics in moving top notch animation as well, so do you agree or disagree?

Doodle

Eh, I don't agree. I don't really see games as art, but just a game. It can have story and all that, but it's still just a game to me.
YEAH

Indigo

Then it looks like we agree to disagree  :D

Kilroy

I definitely agree. Video games are just starting to evolve into a true art form, like movies, but they're young right now.
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Doodle

YEAH

Silverhawk79

I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.

Tupin


It's an emerging art form. Gaming has really only been around for 25 years, think how simple cinema was in 1923.

Some games can be considered art, but the industry is too flooded and young to gain mainstream recognition.

Bioshock is the perfect piece of evidence for the "games as art" debate, by the way. Even with its anticlimactic endings.


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Indigo

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on August 15, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.
*cough* Chrono Trigger *cough*

Tupin

Quote from: supercoolbros on August 15, 2008, 07:24:34 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on August 15, 2008, 07:18:28 PM
I agree. Many newer games (Bioshock, Portal, etc) are being considered as being true art, as well as older games like Earthbound, Super Mario RPG, and a ton of SNES games that I can't remember right now.
*cough* Chrono Trigger *cough*
Nah, it was something else, something even better...

Terranigma.

jk.  :P

Terranigma is awesome, though.


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Zovistograt

I consider nearly every type of media (and some other odd things, like placement of random stuff and even literal garbage) some sort of art, so games with their mixed media and amazing art direction are masterpieces to me...except for that cookie-cutter movie/TV show/whatever game market.  That stuff sucks.  So let me rephrase that: GOOD games are masterpieces to me in the art world.

I'm a purist in some things, but in art I am experimental to the core...which includes music as well.
"I lovat a gabber.  I could listen to maure and moravar again.  Regn onder river.  Flies do your float.  Thick is the life for mere." - James Joyce (Finnegans Wake, page 213)

Mystic

Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.

Kilroy

Quote from: Mystic on August 15, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Bombs are art?
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Zovistograt

Quote from: Byte on August 15, 2008, 08:42:02 PM
Quote from: Mystic on August 15, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
Anything man made is art. Video games are man made.
Bombs are art?
yeah, they go under pyrotechnics.
"I lovat a gabber.  I could listen to maure and moravar again.  Regn onder river.  Flies do your float.  Thick is the life for mere." - James Joyce (Finnegans Wake, page 213)

Mystic

Any form of entertainment is art. Better?