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Started by Dill, October 15, 2008, 06:31:58 PM

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StarWindWizard7

With great respect to Dill,
I'll lock this thread to hopefully avoid a conflict between countries.
   

Riosan

Quote from: SUPERKOOL on October 15, 2008, 07:45:51 PM
Seriously, though, if the threads don't go against any rules, there is no good reason for them to be locked.

Relax, mang. It's one thread, it's not the end of the world.
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Dill

I'm told that everyone here thinks that this thread was made because I think Roisan is a useless waste of a rank and may as well be replaced with a baby wearing a "NO U" bib and holding a lock button, and this seemed like a nice time to take a stab at him. This is most honestly not the case. I made this thread because I find it to be a legitimate question, and I knew that only members here could answer it. Nobody has yet to even attempt to answer it with anything more than," They are corrupt."

Some more examples, since Roy's is too biased to touch: on Nsider2, I made a thread which over the course of an hour became a musical. It was locked because the moderator of the board grew tired of the entertainment. Obviously, this thread was much better than all others of the board, most of which this moderator posted in. Another example would be Silver once locked a thread Trace and myself (and others) were posting in. His reason, if I recall, was that he grew tired of the same, brilliant joke being said in succession.

None of these threads broke any rules stated. And, as I've said many times before, these same beautiful people whom I show nothing but the upmost respect for are very easily shining their own hypocrisy by condoning the creation of threads which are much less entertaining than my own, some of which even breaking rules.

So I ask again: in general, and with no specific relation to Roisan's idiocy, why does this happen?

Riosan

Quote from: Dill on October 16, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
words words words

Just fyi, I don't mod to impress you.

But thanks for being concerned. I'll send you a nice Thanksgiving gift.
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Zovistograt

I think that mods in general cannot be entirely impartial and do have opinions, and sadly, that opinion is usually that the mod is superior to the non-mod.

If you think about it, only people who think mods should be superior to regular users would even WANT to be a mod in the first place; others would see it only as an annoying job.
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Dill

Quote from: Riosan on October 16, 2008, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: Dill on October 16, 2008, 05:39:21 PM
words words words

Just fyi, I don't mod to impress you.

I have trouble understanding why you shouldn't be. Apparently people are confused that once they do become a mod, it's a free ride, and you have to be really bad at it for people to notice. I suppose that's something you can learn from Nsider, too.

Golly, you guys sure did come from the garbage can of social networking.

Macawmoses

As Zovi said, staff are biased, regardless. It's a sad fact, but we can't deny it.

Touching on the free ride thing, though, I see that as real too. But that is a story for another day.

Simply, I don't think it is isolated to NSider, I feel it is life in general. Whether we like it or not, there's also going to be opinion, and it is a quirk that does indeed make life interesting.

Riosan

Quote from: Zovistograt on October 16, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
If you think about it, only people who think mods should be superior to regular users would even WANT to be a mod in the first place; others would see it only as an annoying job.

I was asked to be a mod by Silver when NSF was first created, that's how I got my jorb.

At times, yes, it's annoying, and I hate doing it. At different times, I enjoy the ability to lock threads and ban users when no one else will.
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Dill

Quote from: Riosan on October 16, 2008, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on October 16, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
If you think about it, only people who think mods should be superior to regular users would even WANT to be a mod in the first place; others would see it only as an annoying job.

I was asked to be a mod by Silver when NSF was first created, that's how I got my jorb.

At times, yes, it's annoying, and I hate doing it. At different times, I enjoy the ability to lock threads and ban users when no one else will.

Sometimes being a hipster is not always the best decision. There's a reason why your best friends don't actually jump off of a cliff.

Zovistograt

Quote from: Riosan on October 16, 2008, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: Zovistograt on October 16, 2008, 05:59:04 PM
If you think about it, only people who think mods should be superior to regular users would even WANT to be a mod in the first place; others would see it only as an annoying job.

I was asked to be a mod by Silver when NSF was first created, that's how I got my jorb.

At times, yes, it's annoying, and I hate doing it. At different times, I enjoy the ability to lock threads and ban users when no one else will.
mmhmmm but you still made the choice to accept the position.

And perhaps there is sometimes good reason why "no one else will."  I move that staff should have checks and balances so that the interests of one person are canceled with the others to possibly create less bias overall.
"I lovat a gabber.  I could listen to maure and moravar again.  Regn onder river.  Flies do your float.  Thick is the life for mere." - James Joyce (Finnegans Wake, page 213)

Riosan

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Quote from: Zovistograt on October 16, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
mmhmmm but you still made the choice to accept the position.

This is true.


Quote from: Zovistograt on October 16, 2008, 06:16:29 PM
I move that staff should have checks and balances so that the interests of one person are canceled with the others to possibly create less bias overall.

Personally, I like the forum the way it is, where one mod can make a decision without having to consult everyone else on what their specific thoughts are. Yes, your idea sounds good in theory, but in practice, there's always going to be bias, and there's nothing to prevent bias.
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Silverhawk79

Quote from: Dill on October 16, 2008, 05:39:21 PMAnother example would be Silver once locked a thread Trace and myself (and others) were posting in. His reason, if I recall, was that he grew tired of the same, brilliant joke being said in succession.
I don't recall this particular thread.

Matt

You have the power to unlock threads, so to be honest, unlock it and give a reason why you feel that it should be unlocked. Instead of having to ask others what reasons or why they lock the threads they do. Like others have said in this thread, it is in interest of the person who feels the need to lock or unlock the thread.

Macawmoses

Quote from: `Matt` on October 16, 2008, 06:48:08 PM
You have the power to unlock threads, so to be honest, unlock it and give a reason why you feel that it should be unlocked. Instead of having to ask others what reasons or why they lock the threads they do. Like others have said in this thread, it is in interest of the person who feels the need to lock or unlock the thread.
He has made it clear that his point is all post NSider sites. He doesn't have power at NS2, for instance, thus, that statement applies only to the NSFCD part of his issue.

Moriarty

Hrm, I can really see it now. Riosan is obviously a bulldozer. And Silver his steamroller lackey. It all makes sense.

I can completely understand where Dill is coming from (post-Wagnerian Germany as of late) and he has a valid point. And even though your defense may be your bias, that still doesn't completely answer the question at hand. One thread over the other - no rules broken and both threads legitimate thoughts - can be tolerable of bias, and it will happen. However the fact that some threads stay open with rules broken, incomplete thoughts (and metaphors) and flat out tomfoolery over other threads that may not be to the moderator's liking but are legitimate threads is outright disgusting. 
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