Most underrated/overrated Mario game?

Tupin · January 05, 2009, 06:45:45 PM

In your opinion.

Most underrated: Super Mario Sunshine.

While the mechanic of FLUDD was not liked by some, I personally loved this games personality. Everything about it, from the graphics, to the music, to the locales, it all was perfect for a Mario game. My only gripe is one thing. Have you SEEN the beta of it with the huge Delfino Plaza? Looks even better than the game we got.

Most overrated: Pretty much all of the Nintendo made Mario games are awesome, but I must say, Mario Party has gotten VERY old. Mario Party 4 was like the last really good one, they need to either start making it themselves or give it to another second party.

What about yours?

Nayrman · January 05, 2009, 06:48:33 PM

I'm not going to include spin-offs, because only Kart, Golf, and Parties 1-4 were any good.

Underrated: Mario 2 (it was still a fun game)
Overrated: Mario galaxy

SkyMyl · January 05, 2009, 06:53:16 PM

Underrated: Super Mario Bros. 2/Doki Doki Panic/Yoshi Yoshi Panic
Overrated: Super Mario 64

Seriously.

Tupin · January 05, 2009, 07:14:00 PM

I thought I was the only one who thought that Super Mario 64 and Galaxy were overrated. =D

SkyMyl · January 05, 2009, 07:20:54 PM

Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 05, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
I thought I was the only one who thought that Super Mario 64 and Galaxy were overrated. =D

Glad to know I'm not alone. =)

Tupin · January 05, 2009, 07:26:16 PM

Quote from: MasterYoungLink on January 05, 2009, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 05, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
I thought I was the only one who thought that Super Mario 64 and Galaxy were overrated. =D
Glad to know I'm not alone. =)

I swear, I thought it was just okay until Nintendo made that GARBAGE DS port.

I think it was just so they could say, "SEE? It IS as powerful as an N64!" >=(

Java · January 05, 2009, 08:28:59 PM

Most Underrated: Super Mario 2 (US) - I always thought this was a great game.

Most Overrated: Super Mario 64 - I just can't get into it for some reason. I've tried so many times! I've had more fun with Galaxy than 64.

Quote from: Nayrman on January 05, 2009, 06:48:33 PM
I'm not going to include spin-offs, because only Kart, Golf, and Parties 1-4 were any good.

Mario Tennis 64 was awesome and both Strikers are pretty good, I don't know what you're talking about...
I've never been much of a golf fan, so I wouldn't know about that.

Triforce_Luigi · January 05, 2009, 09:26:32 PM

Underrated: Either Luigi's Mansion or Sunshine. Both had awesomeadditions to the game mechanics.

Overrated: Galaxy. It's pretty easy, and while it's pretty good, it's not that good.

Shujinco2 · January 05, 2009, 09:29:55 PM

Underrated: Super Mario Land. Few know of the awesomeness that is this game.

Overrated: I gotta say, Super Mario World. I still like it (A lot), but it most certanly is not the best Mario game ever.

JrDude · January 06, 2009, 03:35:53 AM

Underrated: Mario Galaxy - Everyone is saying it's overrated, but look at that, that's just proving that it's not liked, thus, not overrated. I thought it was a GREAT game, the weird gravity, the races with that Galactic Mario, the icescatting thing was probably my favorite for some reason, the only thing I didn't like is having to start ALL OVER with Luigi to get everything the game had.

Overrated: Mario RPG - Yes, it was a great game, but it is liked a little too much, I liked the game, but it just didn't draw me in like everyone made me think it would.

Red · January 06, 2009, 01:02:41 PM

I don't know how anyone can say Super Mario 64 is overrated. Sure the DS port ruined it, but I don't think you should count that, just count the original. It deserves all the hype.

Most overrated: Galaxy.

Most underrated: Super Mario Brothers 2 (US).

Zero · January 06, 2009, 01:29:57 PM

The DS port wasn't bad at all. When the DS was first released, it was the only game worth mentioning that was available for it at launch. What exactly "ruined" the game? The most common complaint is the lack of an analog stick, but I find the D-pad to work just fine. I don't need an analog stick to enjoy the game.

I still play some of the mini-games.

And as for the thread topic:

Most overrated: Super Mario 64

The game is wonderful no doubt, most games that are "overrated" tend to be. It's just that people tend to call it a near perfect game and...that is far from the truth.

Most underrated: Super Mario Sunshine

People constantly ninny about the FLUDD crap and how the game wasn't as similar to Mario 64 as "it should have been". It was innovative, incredibly fun, and actually, next to Super Mario Bros. 3, this game is my favorite Mario game. It had its flaws, but they weren't significant enough for this game to be bad.

Doodle · January 06, 2009, 01:48:14 PM

Underrated: Probably Super Mario Sunshine or Luigi's Mansion.
Super Mario Sunshine was different, and pretty fun. I loved F.L.U.D.D. :) The only thing I didn't like was the blue coins. They were kind of annoying, too.
Luigi's Mansion was fun, too.

Overrated: It's obviously Super Mario RPG.
I don't get it. I played the game for the SNES. Everybody makes it seem like the best game, and it really wasn't. Don't get me wrong, it was a good game. But not as great as everyone makes it seem.

Red · January 06, 2009, 04:18:26 PM

Quote from: Zero on January 06, 2009, 01:29:57 PM
The DS port wasn't bad at all. When the DS was first released, it was the only game worth mentioning that was available for it at launch. What exactly "ruined" the game? The most common complaint is the lack of an analog stick, but I find the D-pad to work just fine. I don't need an analog stick to enjoy the game.

It wasn't bad, but that's the problem.

It wasn't bad.

That's all that can be said about it? Not great? That was the problem, the game was just average, and when compared to the greatness of 64, it doesn't cut it. Plus, it completely takes away the nostalgia factor, which isn't that big of a deal, but still...

It ruined the game, because looking at a DS for a couple of stars is nothing compared to staying up all night, in the light of a television screen, playing a kick ass game. The DS version never had the same charm.

Zero · January 06, 2009, 07:22:48 PM

Quote from: Red on January 06, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Zero on January 06, 2009, 01:29:57 PM
The DS port wasn't bad at all. When the DS was first released, it was the only game worth mentioning that was available for it at launch. What exactly "ruined" the game? The most common complaint is the lack of an analog stick, but I find the D-pad to work just fine. I don't need an analog stick to enjoy the game.
It wasn't bad, but that's the problem.

It wasn't bad.

That's all that can be said about it? Not great? That was the problem, the game was just average, and when compared to the greatness of 64, it doesn't cut it. Plus, it completely takes away the nostalgia factor, which isn't that big of a deal, but still...

It ruined the game, because looking at a DS for a couple of stars is nothing compared to staying up all night, in the light of a television screen, playing a kick ass game. The DS version never had the same charm.

Of course the DS version never had the same charm. Ports of games never have the same charm as the originals. In what ways, do you think Nintendo could have ported the game, and retained the same charm?

Also, nostalgia factor is another point I should have made. Nostalgia leads to biased statements. Not to mention, you can't really "take away" nostalgia. The way you remember the game is entirely up to you. Those memories are yours, and I don't quite see how a port of a game you adored should impact your opinion over said game.