Were you disappointed with Brawl?

[Dawei]

I didnt expect it to be perfect, but the character roster was good except for a few.  Characters were way to easy.  I regret playing SSE before unlocking everybody.  Watching ten pop ups of characters I unlocked just because I saw them was painful.  It was basically getting something I didnt work for.  Plus you dont even have to fight the chars you unlock in SSE.  I miss Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu.  They should've stayed, infact everybody should've stayed.  I dont mind having three Links.  The more the better.  Toon Link and Young Link have slight differences.  The most pointless features in brawl were the 30 second demos of games we already played or own, and the stickers.  I thought the alot of the items like ACs and Pkmn caused too much damage and knockback than they should.  (Like ZSS's armor)  The stage builder is fun to use but needs more tools.  Tripping I've gotten used to but I think the tripping happens too often.  Besides that I think Brawl is a great game and was worth the wait.  I do like it better than melee mostly because there are more characters and stages and also because I'm not good at melee anymore.

Because I'm sure you were good at it before...

[JrDude]

I didnt expect it to be perfect, but the character roster was good except for a few.  Characters were way to easy.  I regret playing SSE before unlocking everybody.  Watching ten pop ups of characters I unlocked just because I saw them was painful.  It was basically getting something I didnt work for.  Plus you dont even have to fight the chars you unlock in SSE.  I miss Mewtwo, Roy, and Pichu.  They should've stayed, infact everybody should've stayed.  I dont mind having three Links.  The more the better.  Toon Link and Young Link have slight differences.  The most pointless features in brawl were the 30 second demos of games we already played or own, and the stickers.  I thought the alot of the items like ACs and Pkmn caused too much damage and knockback than they should.  (Like ZSS's armor)  The stage builder is fun to use but needs more tools.  Tripping I've gotten used to but I think the tripping happens too often.  Besides that I think Brawl is a great game and was worth the wait.  I do like it better than melee mostly because there are more characters and stages and also because I'm not good at melee anymore.

Because I'm sure you were good at it before...

Almost everyone thinks they are/were good at games when they never play against another human being, or win against amateurs who also think they are good at the game.

[StarWindWizard7]

For the most part, I'm fine with brawl, but You and I both know that they could of made far better then what it is.

MY Only major gripe is SSBB's online features.

1.Constantly being DC'ed.
2. Friend Code B.S.
3. No Online Subspace emissary mode.
4. L A G.
5. Not having more options online, (such as if you just want to play 1 on 1 with somebody online, or looking for 1 vs 1 vs 1, or TURNING ITEMS OFF etc..)



Lack of More worthy characters is a problem.
And even though making a stage is awesome, it lacks true variety.

When it comes down to the point where people Hack/modify the game JUST to make it more enjoyable, that alone says enough.

Also, characters are too far unbalanced with eachother.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl to me gets a 8.7/10 (honestly)

[Custom]

My expectations were as low as you could possibly get.

I still think Brawl was one of the biggest video game fails of all time. Complete watered down casual poop.

I agree. I was really disappointed with Brawl. I didn't have high expectations after what Nintendo has been doing to itself, but I still had a little bit of hope that Brawl was going to be good.
The Stage builder sucked. Friend codes made online as annoying than the lag that comes with it.
I thought story mode was cool when I first played through it. Then I realized I would never play story again and I had already unlocked all the characters. No fun ways to unlock them like in Melee.
I haven't picked up Brawl since.. I would say 2 weeks after its release date.

[Triforceman22]

I'm fine with it.

Lol @ whiny Bitches

[RX-78-2]

I wasn't disappointed with what I expected (except they said over 50 characters at first, and what do we get? NOT 50 THAT'S FOR SURE), but I was disappointed with what I didn't expect.

Graphics = GOOD
Sound = GOOD
Music = GREAT
Characters = OKAY: There could've been more, they should've put more diverse characters, less clones, no nerfs _{(NOOOO FOX)}, no character removals _{(NOOOO ROY)}, no removals of anything actually)
Stages = GOOD: They should just have EVERY SINGLE STAGE FROM ALL GAMES instead of just picking and choosing some "good ones"
Gameplay = OKAY: SSE was okay, but really gave the message of "I don't have Internet so I'll play this instead", tripping is not fun, glitches (or whatever they are) are annoying (MEEEEEEETTTTTTTAAAAAA KKKKKKKKNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT), challenges and events were okay, but some challenges are ridiculous
Online = AT LEAST IT'S THERE: This could've been done much better, and that goes for the Wii and all it's games as a whole. "Friend codes"? What the [expletive] is this? They should've copied Xbox 360. Also, it needs 8-player local and online play and DLC, and NO LAG
Extras = OKAY: The movies could've been better. I really enjoyed the "Special Movie" in Melee and was hoping for a sequel that including the unlockable characters in it, Stage Builder is fun, but could be less restrictive

Hopefully I'm not forgetting anything in my little review here.  :) Overall, it gets about an 8/10. I'm feeling generous.

[HyruleOceanic]

No im not

[Neerb]

It didn't fill everyone's exact requirements for "Game of the Century," but it's still a great game.  I personally am grateful we got as much as we did, even if it didn't have everything.  I mean, sure it's slower and more aerial-based than Melee, but I don't think that's really as game-breaking as you people think, and note:

Brawl had Wi-Fi, Melee didn't.
Brawl had Stage Creator, Melee didn't.
Brawl had story, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 35+ characters, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 3rd parties, Melee didn't.
Brawl had My Music, Melee didn't.

So go ahead, whine all you want about how it would have been better to just get Melee Online, but when you do, remember that most of the things you say are s*** in Brawl, Melee DIDN'T EVEN HAVE.

[jnfs2014]

Stop thumping old breads!

Oh, and to Smashbro25

1. Online could be better.

2. Stage Builder was basic.

3. Oh, you mean the "enemy of my enemy is my friend story"?

4. Yet they added some characters that didn't need to be in there, and not add others.

5. No complaint.

6. No complaint.

/rant.

So yeah, Brawl sucks. Well, compared to Melee. But Brawl is a different type of Smash game. It's not Melee with online. Brawl is a casual game with a hardcore name. It's overall a solid title for the Wii, but pales in comparison to what it could have been.

[Mutilator7]

They took out the competitive techniques that the previous two games had to dumb it down. They took out the enjoyable parts of the previous two games and filled it with features that could be greatly improved on, i mean i have to hack to actually somewhat enjoy the stage creator. Race to the finish and board the platforms :( Online was horrendous, i don't even know what went wrong, they have lag-free 12 player mario kart, but can't handle a 4 person smash? I did however like the changes to target test, they were cool along with co-op in target test and homerun contest. SSE should have had lives instead of percentage, would've made more sense, and the stickers on trophies were cool though. Overall it's an okay game. So yes and no. But mostly yes.

[Captain Justice]

Brawl had Wi-Fi, Melee didn't.
Brawl had Stage Creator, Melee didn't.
Brawl had story, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 35+ characters, Melee didn't.
Brawl had 3rd parties, Melee didn't.
Brawl had My Music, Melee didn't.

1. I'll give you that, but the Wi Fi is so bare bones and full of lag, that its not much of an improvement.
2. Stage Builder is a horrible addition that gave the game develpoers an excuse to put poopty stages in the game. Brawl would have been way better without it.
3. Brawl had a story (barely), so what? Melee's 1P mode was far better.
4. Characters aren't important, Melee had 29 which is more then enough.
5. 3rd parties.....big deal who cares? No improvement there.
6. My Music would have been an ok feature if they used it right. Once again hardly any stages and way too much music (most of it goes un-listened to)

[chaosgear]

skimmed this topic, and i can sum it up in to 3 words:

WAAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH.

nothing but complaints. arent you people ever happy? i think brawl was great! its just that you all had high expectations.

1. I'll give you that, but the Wi Fi is so bare bones and full of lag, that its not much of an improvement.
2. Stage Builder is a horrible addition that gave the game develpoers an excuse to put s***ty stages in the game. Brawl would have been way better without it.
3. Brawl had a story (barely), so what? Melee's 1P mode was far better.
4. Characters aren't important, Melee had 29 which is more then enough.
5. 3rd parties.....big deal who cares? No improvement there.
6. My Music would have been an ok feature if they used it right. Once again hardly any stages and way too much music (most of it goes un-listened to)

1. IMPROVEMENT!? IT NEVER HAD A FIRST! WHAT IMPROVEMENT!?
2. better without it? not hardly.
3. debatable. very debatable.
4. characters are very important in my book.
5. no comment.
6. you must not be a fan of the games in brawl. any fan would flip over that feature.

[Captain Justice]

skimmed this topic, and i can sum it up in to 3 words:

WAAAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAH.

nothing but complaints. arent you people ever happy? i think brawl was great! its just that you all had high expectations.1. IMPROVEMENT!? IT NEVER HAD A FIRST! WHAT IMPROVEMENT!?
2. better without it? not hardly.
3. debatable. very debatable.
4. characters are very important in my book.
5. no comment.
6. you must not be a fan of the games in brawl. any fan would flip over that feature.

I had high expectations? Once again my expectations were as low as you can get....and I still hated it.

[The Riddler]

You all need to stop whining. It's fun and you know it.
For online play, sure it lags like hell, but aren't there fixes? The problem mostly lies with Nintendo on that front, ALL of Wii's online games suck.
For the stage builder: If you don't like it, don't use it. It was a neat little feature and as basic as it was, it's still fun to toy around with. I've made some stages myself I thought were fun.
For the story: Sure it made unlocking characters very easy, but at least it had a plot, it had a sense of completion (for those of us who like getting 100% of everything), and was overall fun and interesting.
Anyone who says the characters suck needs to get the intercourse  out now. In a game like this, the more the merrier, who cares if you don't like a character specifically? Sure they could have and should have kept Roy/Mewtwo (and ironically the people who say they should have kept them say Pichu should be gone. Hypocrits.), but they added a nice number of fun characters. As for games that needed reps? Let me guess, you're butthurt 'cause Ridley was a boss and not playable. Ridley is far suited better as a boss, shut the intercourse  up.
I personally would prefer LESS third party additions, I'm fine with just Snake and Sonic (and if they have to build from there, add Tails/Knuckles.)
The music feature wasn't done right, but they still had a ton of options.

On to the other "points of failure". Nerfed characters? Improves the balance of the game. More butthurt Fox spammers because their character doesn't rape everything anymore.
No more wavedashing? It wasn't a feature to begin with. It was an exploit. I'm glad it's gone.
SMASHBALLS ARE TOO POWERFUL. Turn them off, tourneyfag.

The game is fun to play and you intercourse ing know it. Stop complaining.
I was not disappointed.

[Captain Justice]

hey, dumbass, don't put words in my mouth. the game was intercourse ing boring as hell no matter how hard I tried to enjoy it.

and more balance? lmao MK is so much better then any other character that people are contemplating a hard ban on him. The entire metagame revolves around how to counter MK, and currently he completely dominates the tourny scene. Brawl is an unbalanced piece of poop.

1P mode was completely blown to pieces. Melee had a fun little 1P mode (nothing too fancy, since its a multiplayer game). Brawl's 1P revolves fully around that hideous SSE that absorbed all the creators time (time that could and should of been used on something else).

Stage Builder is garbage, as you can't make intercourse ing poop in it. If stage builder weren't made then I'm sure there would have been some more actual stages in Brawl (good stages, not gimmicky pieces of trash like 75mm).