Hardcore Game

[DededeCloneChris]

Well, it has been troubling since...well, since I heard the word.

What is exactly a hardcore game to you?

Is it hardcore if the game has an insane difficulty that you need to pass eventually?

Is it hardcore if you enjoy the game?

Is it hardcore if people think graphics are awesome and not the gameplay (or backwards)?

Is it hardcore if there are many ways to pass it?

I'd like to see your thoughts and answers if you can so I can know the correct answer.

[Nayrman]

A hardcore game is a game that has gone through a decent development length, either has a long and engaging single player experience or a profound/robust online/multiplayer mode that aims to push it's respective genre and console. Obviously not many achieve this, but that is the ultimate goal. These take a lot more time and money, but when they succeed they're shining examples of how good gaming can be. However, failure's can be almost disastrous.

A casual game would be something like Wii Sports or Wii Play. Something that doesn't take a lot of time, effort, or money to produce to create a simple (or to some extent, easier) experience for people who don't know the in's and out's of gaming.  While these tend to make a decent amount of money, assuming they're done right, most of these games barely tap the potential of what gaming can achieve. Too many of these games and it comes across as pandering to the crowd while being lazy.

[StarWindWizard7]

Graphics IMO isn't really necessary in making a game hardcore.

A hardcore game has "Ingredients" like (and I'm using an Adventure game)

1. Epic Story line.
2. Longevity, atleast 25+ hours long (WITHOUT Side Quests).

Probably a bit more I can list, but it's not AS Important.
Nintendo lacks some of this.

[Nayrman]

Graphics IMO isn't really necessary in making a game hardcore.

A hardcore game has "Ingredients" like (and I'm using an Adventure game)

1. Epic Story line.
2. Longevity, atleast 25+ hours long (WITHOUT Side Quests).

Probably a bit more I can list, but it's not AS Important.
Nintendo lacks some of this.

Outside of Zelda and Metroid, Nintendo has none of those.
(and I'm not adding RPG's to that since RPG's are sometimes blatantly padded out with slower gameplay)

[Magnum]

IT NEEDS TO HAVE BLOOD AND GUTS AND CREATURES GETTING RIPPED INTO TINY PIECES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kilroy]

Is it fun?
Does it have extensive and unique (read: not repetitive) gameplay?
Does it have extensive and unique (read: not repetitive and actually makes sense) story?
Is it challenging?

[StarWindWizard7]

Outside of Zelda and Metroid, Nintendo has none of those.
(and I'm not adding RPG's to that since RPG's are sometimes blatantly padded out with slower gameplay)

So, with that being said, it has come to Nayr and I's attention that Nintendo is Lazy.

Simple as that.

[DededeCloneChris]

So, with that being said, it has come to Nayr and I's attention that Nintendo is Lazy.

Simple as that.

Thank you for sharing your hatred to Nintendo. It was lovely.

Now, more examples about a hardcore game?

[Tupin]

Hardcore games are very long and have many side-quests/secrets to uncover, while casual games are short and very easy to pick up and play.

The best games would mix elements of both, but I'm not going to buy a game at $60 that lasts less than 10 hours.

[Macawmoses]

Most gamers here call a hardcore game the following:

FPS
Fighter
Rated M title

That's about all hardcore is to most people. And most people are what make a definition. We make them for the masses. So the definition of a hardcore title (thanks to idiots) is: a game that's either a FPS or Fighter with an M rating. Some RPG's that are epic too. But MMMMMMMMMMMMMM rated.

[DededeCloneChris]

Most gamers here call a hardcore game the following:

FPS
Fighter
Rated M title

That's about all hardcore is to most people. And most people are what make a definition. We make them for the masses. So the definition of a hardcore title (thanks to idiots) is: a game that's either a FPS or Fighter with an M rating. Some RPG's that are epic too. But MMMMMMMMMMMMMM rated.

Team Fortress 2 came to my mind for some reason...

[Nayrman]

Most gamers here call a hardcore game the following:

FPS
Fighter
Rated M title

That's about all hardcore is to most people. And most people are what make a definition. We make them for the masses. So the definition of a hardcore title (thanks to idiots) is: a game that's either a FPS or Fighter with an M rating. Some RPG's that are epic too. But MMMMMMMMMMMMMM rated.

only the "core who are actually just a bunch of high school and college dudes" think that @_@;;

[Triforceman22]

A Hardcore game to me, is when the development team takes thier time with the game they are creating. Not rushing it, and listening to the fans is quite crucial too.

It also should have quite alot of replay value. ( like side quests, unlockables, and/or a multiplayer mode.
The game should also be quite polished. Having little to no problems that ruin the fun.

[StarWindWizard7]

Thank you for sharing your hatred to Nintendo. It was lovely.

Now, more examples about a hardcore game?

*face palms*

SHOW me right now where it said, "I hate Nintendo".
They are lazy IMHO, but I still don't hate them.
They can piss me off, but I don't hate them.
They can again and again disappoint me, but I don't hate them.

WHY do people try to accuse me of something I never even said.
It's getting annoying.

[Macawmoses]

only the "core who are actually just a bunch of high school and college dudes" think that @_@;;

And that core is the majority. Who are you to tell the demographic that defines gaming they are wrong? Oh right, you're in that demographic. It's the majority definition.