EA Stands By Tiger

Macawmoses · January 04, 2010, 08:07:09 PM

http://www.easports.com/blogs/itsinthegame/post/slug/ea-sports-moves-forward-with-tiger-woods-pga-tour-online-launch-in-january

Basically, EA is one of the few companies standing firmly by Tiger Woods.

it's bothered me that Gilette/etc. have dropped him. I mean, imagine this campaign:

Gilette: Our razor makes such a clean shave, women flock to you. Tiger's razor of choice

See? brilliant.

What do you think of the sponsorship drops?.

Nayrman · January 04, 2010, 08:17:01 PM

I don't blame the advertisers. Whenever a famous celebrity's image has dropped to the point of pretty much little repair, there is litter reason to stick with him unless your product especially deals with what they do.
Basically I know why EA and Nike are standing by him, since he's the number 1 golfer BY FAR and is the most recognizable athletic figure in the country. However, for guys like Gillete and such who deal with a product that has nothing to do with golf, it makes sense to drop a guy in so much poop right now.

Titus Andronicus · January 04, 2010, 08:37:53 PM

Quote from: Nayrman on January 04, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
I don't blame the advertisers. Whenever a famous celebrity's image has dropped to the point of pretty much little repair, there is litter reason to stick with him unless your product especially deals with what they do.
Basically I know why EA and Nike are standing by him, since he's the number 1 golfer BY FAR and is the most recognizable athletic figure in the country. However, for guys like Gillete and such who deal with a product that has nothing to do with golf, it makes sense to drop a guy in so much poop right now.

what about like michael phelps? companies started dropping him and he's also arguably the most recognizable athletic figure in the country.

Nayrman · January 04, 2010, 09:08:06 PM

Quote from: Titus Andronicus on January 04, 2010, 08:37:53 PM
what about like michael phelps? companies started dropping him and he's also arguably the most recognizable athletic figure in the country.

competing once every four years doesn't make him the most famous. You have to consistently play to be that. Not to mention swimming only ever gets mentioned during the Olympics so bah.
Also, I don't count relatively normal human functions like swimming, running, etc. sports in the newer sense of the word (how the hell is all these XXXm dashes and relays Olympic sports yet things that are a HELL of a lot more athletic like things in the X games not?)

Titus Andronicus · January 04, 2010, 09:20:19 PM

Quote from: Nayrman on January 04, 2010, 09:08:06 PM
competing once every four years doesn't make him the most famous. You have to consistently play to be that. Not to mention swimming only ever gets mentioned during the Olympics so bah.
Also, I don't count relatively normal human functions like swimming, running, etc. sports in the newer sense of the word (how the hell is all these XXXm dashes and relays Olympic sports yet things that are a HELL of a lot more athletic like things in the X games not?)

thinking that he competes once every 4 years is intercourse ing hilarious, just because he's only mentioned once every four years doesn't mean he only competes that often

and you think that swimming doesnt count? you obviously are not a swimmer or else youd know that its not as easy as "simple survival" or skills that everyone has. you can train for years and not be nearly as good as michael phelps. he has natural talent that deserves recognition, and i think it's really unfair of you to count him out because you know how to swim too. i can hit a golf ball. does that mean i should not include tiger when i think of sports?

Mystic · January 04, 2010, 09:20:47 PM

Gillette would be clever. Otherwise, it's seen as a risk.

Doodle · January 05, 2010, 06:08:42 AM

Michael Phelps is never in the media. The last thing I remember about him is that weed scandal, which was months ago. :U

Nayrman · January 05, 2010, 08:01:36 AM

Quote from: Titus Andronicus on January 04, 2010, 09:20:19 PM
thinking that he competes once every 4 years is intercourse ing hilarious, just because he's only mentioned once every four years doesn't mean he only competes that often

and you think that swimming doesnt count? you obviously are not a swimmer or else youd know that its not as easy as "simple survival" or skills that everyone has. you can train for years and not be nearly as good as michael phelps. he has natural talent that deserves recognition, and i think it's really unfair of you to count him out because you know how to swim too. i can hit a golf ball. does that mean i should not include tiger when i think of sports?

I know he competes but no one intercourse ing cares unless it's the Olympics.
I do know how to swim, I kind of always knew so how someone can't know how to baffles me honestly. Unless you're in like some kind of white water rapids or something, the action of swimming is pretty simple in it of itself. Is Phelps the fastest swimmer in the world by far? Yea, but so what? It's basically why I don't care for the summer Olympics...

Things like golf are very different from swimming or the running competitions. There are factors beyond the athlete's control that make it a sport. In things like swimming, you just well, swim. (Yes I know water feedback from the other swimmers but bah), things like wind in golf, the course itself, etc.

Custom · January 05, 2010, 08:08:30 AM

Who gives a intercourse ? He plays golf well, let him do it. Let him sell your products.

Who cares if he sleeps with 30 women? It's all good.

Rius · January 05, 2010, 09:33:17 AM

The same reason political parties suddenly come out and criticize their members when they get caught doing something, no matter how much support they gave them before; if someone is doing something immoral, then your association with them means you support said activity. By ending his sponsorship, it serves the dual purpose of disassociation and public admonishment. Of course, whether this actually means something to the general populace is another question... some people will continue to buy the products because they ended his sponsorship, others will see the companies as sell outs and stop buying the products. Though I figure most people just don't care.

Nayrman, the thing that all sports hold in common is that lack of control a player has over his competitors and teammates; environmental factors are what skill and ability must account for. I can't throw a ball worth crap, but if I play the game it's still a sport. Even if you have some sort of ability to run or swim, you are almost guaranteed to lose against someone who trains to do those things competitively. Just because swimming and track/field sports don't feature physical contact or some sort of ball doesn't mean they are some kind of semi-sport. Besides, with those it's still a competition of athletic ability; sports like competitive chess and Rubik's cube solving are on the other end.

Titus Andronicus · January 05, 2010, 11:20:12 AM

Quote from: Nayrman on January 05, 2010, 08:01:36 AM
Things like golf are very different from swimming or the running competitions. There are factors beyond the athlete's control that make it a sport. In things like swimming, you just well, swim. (Yes I know water feedback from the other swimmers but bah), things like wind in golf, the course itself, etc.

This is what I'm getting at you for. There are tons of factors beyond the swimmer's control. There's technique you have to learn and get just right or else you're simply not going to go that fast. To assume otherwise is flat out ignorant. Not to mention different strokes as well. I'd like to see you even try to swim butterfly, let alone swim it fast and not have it tire you out to the point where you can swim it for over 50 yards. You're assuming way too much about stuff you don't know, and it is irksome.

Nayrman · January 05, 2010, 11:54:18 AM

Quote from: Titus Andronicus on January 05, 2010, 11:20:12 AM
This is what I'm getting at you for. There are tons of factors beyond the swimmer's control. There's technique you have to learn and get just right or else you're simply not going to go that fast. To assume otherwise is flat out ignorant. Not to mention different strokes as well. I'd like to see you even try to swim butterfly, let alone swim it fast and not have it tire you out to the point where you can swim it for over 50 yards. You're assuming way too much about stuff you don't know, and it is irksome.

every sport uses form so I don't see how that's unique to swimming. Yes the form is important but that's hardly an issue since all physical activity requires proper form in order to be effective. It really doesn't disprove my point since Yoga requires perfect form and that is by no means a sport.
And since when do you have to be a professional at it to criticize it? Besides, I don't see your credentials regarding swimming.

Titus Andronicus · January 05, 2010, 02:02:21 PM

Quote from: Nayrman on January 05, 2010, 11:54:18 AM
every sport uses form so I don't see how that's unique to swimming. Yes the form is important but that's hardly an issue since all physical activity requires proper form in order to be effective. It really doesn't disprove my point since Yoga requires perfect form and that is by no means a sport.
And since when do you have to be a professional at it to criticize it? Besides, I don't see your credentials regarding swimming.

So because there's wind resistance in golf, it's suddenly that much more of a sport? I honestly don't know how to argue against such a stupid argument. Golf and swimming are equally sports. If anything, one must be in better shape and more athletic to be a swimmer than a golfer.

Credentials as a swimmer? I'm a swimmer and know how much each and every practice, swimming 6000 to 7000 yards in a time period of two hours, kicks my ass. I refuse to believe that it can't be accepted as a sport, simply because it does not acquire much media attention, because there is absolutely no way you don't think it's a sport due to the ability and talent needed to be good at it. Soccer doesn't get much popularity in the states. Is that not a sport?

Nayrman · January 05, 2010, 02:24:00 PM

Quote from: Titus Andronicus on January 05, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
So because there's wind resistance in golf, it's suddenly that much more of a sport? I honestly don't know how to argue against such a stupid argument. Golf and swimming are equally sports. If anything, one must be in better shape and more athletic to be a swimmer than a golfer.

Credentials as a swimmer? I'm a swimmer and know how much each and every practice, swimming 6000 to 7000 yards in a time period of two hours, kicks my ass. I refuse to believe that it can't be accepted as a sport, simply because it does not acquire much media attention, because there is absolutely no way you don't think it's a sport due to the ability and talent needed to be good at it. Soccer doesn't get much popularity in the states. Is that not a sport?

That was my argument to Phelps not being the most famous athlete in the states, not against swimming as a sport (like how Beckham will never be the most famous athlete in the states since he plays a sport most americans don't care about).

I don't consider things "sports" in the sense that they're inherently doable by every able person (AGAIN, I SAID ABLE meaning as long as you are physically capable of performing the action, handicapped or not). Everyone I know knows how to swim. So because some people decide to race then it's automatically a sport? Same for running. Sure I'm no where near that fast a runner, but I can physically run and "compete" if I so chose. Does that make me an athlete? If so, then every able bodied person on earth is an athlete. Yes, there is a gray area where every able bodied person can physically perform soccer or basketball or something. I dunno, something about it being a mostly "timed" sport doesn't sit well with me....

I would like to know, do you consider skateboarding a sport? Whenever I get into this argument that's a question I tend to ask since it can help define what your definition is.

Titus Andronicus · January 05, 2010, 02:33:43 PM

Quote from: Nayrman on January 05, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
That was my argument to Phelps not being the most famous athlete in the states, not against swimming as a sport (like how Beckham will never be the most famous athlete in the states since he plays a sport most americans don't care about).

I don't consider things "sports" in the sense that they're inherently doable by every able person (AGAIN, I SAID ABLE meaning as long as you are physically capable of performing the action, handicapped or not). Everyone I know knows how to swim. So because some people decide to race then it's automatically a sport? Same for running. Sure I'm no where near that fast a runner, but I can physically run and "compete" if I so chose. Does that make me an athlete? If so, then every able bodied person on earth is an athlete. Yes, there is a gray area where every able bodied person can physically perform soccer or basketball or something. I dunno, something about it being a mostly "timed" sport doesn't sit well with me....

I would like to know, do you consider skateboarding a sport? Whenever I get into this argument that's a question I tend to ask since it can help define what your definition is.

So because I'm able to play basketball, I'm a basketball player? Because I can ride a skateboard, I'm a skateboarder? All people are generally able to do any sport unless handicapped otherwise. The definition of a sport doesn't require you to not be able to do it until you try it as a sport at all. It is a set of rules attached to any sort of physical activity, generally physical. Swimming has rules attached.

I might not be the best skateboarder, but I know how to ride one. That makes me just as able to perform as any person who jumps into a pool calling themselves a swimmer. You're basically requiring that there be some sort of inanimate object involved, whether it be a ball or a board. That's ridiculous.