God's Losing

[えっちーせんぱい]

Atheist, because I don't buy into the "we'll never know the answer" junk the agnostics go by.

But we will never know :D

I'm Agnostic, but I'm the "I don't care what exists and I don't care what you are" type, although I find people that do or don't do things based on their religion out of their will stupid.

[JrDude]

Christian, I have much evidence that God exists, evidence that can't be shown to others, but too much for me not to believe.

I was born Catholic, however I disagree with most of its views (masturbation = sin?) so I created my own religion. I'm naming it Kayism. Envy is no longer a mortal sin. ^^

Yes, masturbation = sin, but it doesn't mean you can't do it, it's like lying, you know it's wrong but you do it anyway, along with a lot of other things, but everyone sins, and sinning doesn't mean you go to hell, so 1 little thing shouldn't bother you. (I know you disagree with other things, but I was just saying that because some people disagree with one thing and get butthurt and get unfaithful)

[Friendly Hostile]

But we will never know :D

I'm Agnostic, but I'm the "I don't care what exists and I don't care what you are" type, although I find people that do or don't do things based on their religion out of their will stupid.

And how do you know that?  I think humanity's desire to always seek further answers does give us the capability to know.  It's simply a matter of when and how.

[Rius]

I'm... not exactly sure that's how sin is supposed to work in Christianity.
(You know it's wrong, but you're going to do it anyway because it's just one little thing and you're not going to go to hell for it.)

But that's how it seems to be in practice, regardless.

And how do you know that?  I think humanity's desire to always seek further answers does give us the capability to know.  It's simply a matter of when and how.

If a god exists, then the nature of the god is pretty important, too. If there's a god who doesn't want you to know and wants you to be faithful anyway, then I doubt men would ever know in this lifetime. If there is "god" in the sense that the universe itself is god, then yeah, we have a pretty good chance, considering our tenacious nature. Obviously, I prefer the latter.

[Friendly Hostile]

See, I think if there were a  God that doesn't want you to know if he exists, he wouldn't have created man to desire to always learn more.  Why would you make a creation that will intrinsically try to find out if you actually exist, when your entire intent is for your creation not to know?

[Rius]

See, I think if there were a  God that doesn't want you to know if he exists, he wouldn't have created man to desire to always learn more.  Why would you make a creation that will intrinsically try to find out if you actually exist, when your entire intent is for your creation not to know?

That's where the faith part comes in, I would presume. Since Christianity is the only religion I'm familiar with, I have to pick on it. According to the Bible, it was inspired by God and the miracles recorded were God's work, thus proof of his existence. I don't want to get into that circular logic, but really, in the end all you can do is have faith in a book written and censored by men. If that's the God one believes in, then part of that belief is that you'll never know the true nature of God in this life. Doesn't make sense to me, but that's why I'm not an adherent.

On the other hand, some... well, I guess they're Christians, believe that the true nature of God is love/good/etc. By that definition of God, there's less blind faith and more belief in those things those people have actually experienced in their lives. And if they experienced those things, the God they believe in has given proof of its existence. More along my line of thought, main difference is the replacement of love/good with nature itself.

[JrDude]

On the other hand, some... well, I guess they're Christians, believe that the true nature of God is love/good/etc. By that definition of God, there's less blind faith and more belief in those things those people have actually experienced in their lives. And if they experienced those things, the God they believe in has given proof of its existence. More along my line of thought, main difference is the replacement of love/good with nature itself.

Whether it was directed towards me or not, this is not the evidence I meant.



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[Rius]

Whether it was directed towards me or not, this is not the evidence I meant.

I hadn't even seen your post, I was thinking of my mom. But, okay, obviously what I just said doesn't apply to everyone.

[Lohn Jocke]

God is now following you on Twitter!

God  is now following your tweets on Twitter

A little information about God:
53 followers
596 tweets
following 64 people

It's funny because that was me following you on twitter =3

[Doodle]

Atheist. I think religion is silly.

Pretty much this.
It seems dumb to get so involved in such a thing.

[Kilroy]

I suppose I'm Christian.....
My family is fairly religious, like my mom said he believes the whole god made us thing over theory of evolution :|

But I will quote my brother: "I don't believe in magic"

I thought you were Episcopalian :3

[Lotos]

I identify as a Deist, but I'm contemplating pandeism. For those who don't know, deists believe in a Creator who set universe into motion and is non-interfering; the laws of nature are the evidence of the Creator's existence. Pandeism is the philosophy that the Creator both made the universe and continues to exist as the universe. Fun stuff.

Pandeism does sound like fun.  Does that creator have a big set of rules that we should follow?

[Rius]

Pandeism does sound like fun.  Does that creator have a big set of rules that we should follow?

Well, the laws of nature, which are in effect whether you like it or not. A major point of deism/pandeism is to observe nature and user your own logic to make moral decisions.

[PsychoYoshi]

A deist of sorts; Some kind of higher power created the universe, but I reserve my judgment on whether the higher power still exists and is sentient in some way, or has merged with the universe à la pandeism. Every type of religious or spiritual belief, organized or not, is a different piece of some vast puzzle that we'll never be able to solve. I don't buy the argument that we will one day be omniscient and know whether a god exists or not. Does that mean that we shouldn't grapple with such issues? No, because the beauty is in the effort of trying to find the truth, not necessarily the results in this case.

Why would you make a creation that will intrinsically try to find out if you actually exist, when your entire intent is for your creation not to know?

This assumes that the higher power is Grandpa God from Christianity and is perfectly, purely Lawful Good. If there's a sentient higher power still in existence, I think it is either True Neutral (or very, very borderline Neutral Good) and finds it a lot more interesting (and entertaining) to sit back and watch what we do, or has such alien modus operandi compared with our own that we'd never be able to understand it.

[ThePowerOfOne]

See, I think if there were a  God that doesn't want you to know if he exists, he wouldn't have created man to desire to always learn more.  Why would you make a creation that will intrinsically try to find out if you actually exist, when your entire intent is for your creation not to know?

That's what I don't get. Why would you try to find out if God does exist? Honestly, who gives a poop.

Just seems like trying to figure it out causes more problems than just simply leaving it alone.