Any transformers fans out there want to explain me this please?

phatyo · July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM

In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.

Custom · July 11, 2011, 11:49:55 PM

i'm a transformers fan so i hate the movies and walked out of the second one and didn't bother with the third

TheDarkChief · July 12, 2011, 01:14:14 AM

i stopped watching transformers for the story after generation 1

Super · July 12, 2011, 02:42:06 AM

lol transformers

Hero_of_Darkness · July 12, 2011, 06:24:22 AM

Because the writers didn't think of the third movie yet.

Bearissoslow · July 12, 2011, 09:04:18 AM

how about you stop being a stupid intercourse that questions michael bay movies and just enjoy it for it is

then again there's nothing to enjoy there

Hero_of_Darkness · July 12, 2011, 09:17:20 AM

Quote from: Bearissoslow on July 12, 2011, 09:04:18 AM
how about you stop being a stupid intercourse that questions michael bay movies and just enjoy it for it is

then again there's nothing to enjoy there

Hey now, it wasn't a bad movie. I mean, yeah, the story sucked and the beginning dragged-on with WAAAAAAY too much focus on Sam, but twist and the action were decent. It's a solid 3/5 movie. It was better than the second movie by far, at the very least. Well, the last 45 minutes at least...

Tahrann · July 12, 2011, 10:47:43 AM

Quote from: Hero_of_Darkness on July 12, 2011, 09:17:20 AM
Hey now, it wasn't a bad movie. I mean, yeah, the story sucked and the beginning dragged-on with WAAAAAAY too much focus on Sam, but twist and the action were decent. It's a solid 3/5 movie. It was better than the second movie by far, at the very least. Well, the last 45 minutes at least...

I wanted a bit more of an all-out war. But, meh, it was not bad.

Neerb · July 12, 2011, 11:09:54 AM

Quote from: phatyo on July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.

I see it more as a series of complex back-up plans; if he didn't get the All Spark in the first movie, he had the Sun Harvester as a back up, and if the Sun Harvester didn't work, then he had the Space Bridge, and of course all three failed because of Sam.

As for jeopardizing his deals, he had that covered too, since his back-ups couldn't do anything anyway unless he wanted them to. If the All Spark worked and he didn't need the Fallen's help, then he could just leave Fallen plugged into his life support chair at his little base on Saturn. And Sentinel Prime couldn't be revived without the Matrix of Leadership, which was also needed to power the Sun Harvester, so if Megatron and the Fallen's sun-eating plan worked, they would just leave the guy dead on the moon, and of course their plan working meant they had the Matrix, so the Autobots wouldn't be able to revive him either.

It's actually pretty genre savvy for Megatron to have somehow had all these plans using all-powerful plot devices in motion at the same time; it's just too bad for him that Shia Labouf is an all-powerful plot device in of himself.

Doodle · July 12, 2011, 02:15:44 PM

Quote from: phatyo on July 11, 2011, 11:22:17 PM
In the second movie megatron is working with the fallen to destroy earth and acts like his little slave. Meanwhile in his head he knew that he had a deal with the guy on the moon to bring there planet to earth or a new home they were looking for the survival of there planet. And inslave the human race as they were trying in the third movie. So If he would of destroyed the earth with fallen wouldn't he be jeaportizing the deal with the guy who was found on the moon? This makes no sense to me.

[spoiler]
>there
>there
>inslave
>would of
>jeaportizing
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It's a doggy dog world out there and you guys are taking it for granite.

Bearissoslow · July 12, 2011, 04:20:22 PM

Quote from: Doodle on July 12, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
[spoiler]
>there
>there
>inslave
>would of
>jeaportizing
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It's a doggy dog world out there and you guys are taking it for granite.

jesus christ you're screaming newfag.

Hero_of_Darkness · July 12, 2011, 05:38:46 PM

Quote from: Tahrann on July 12, 2011, 10:47:43 AM
I wanted a bit more of an all-out war. But, meh, it was not bad.

Yeah, it was really weird how only a small part of the US army cared enough to try to save the world. They really could have done more with it.

Mutilator7 · July 12, 2011, 06:21:29 PM

I was surprised at the length of the third Transformers, it was extremely short, about 20 minutes.

Wait, you're telling me that other 2 and a half hours was a Transformers movie?
All i saw was a director's weird obsession with the military and a kid working out his issues with his girlfriend

Kayo · July 12, 2011, 06:42:08 PM

I take it Transformers 3 wasn't so good?

The Seventh · July 12, 2011, 06:59:17 PM

Quote from: Kayo on July 12, 2011, 06:42:08 PM
I take it Transformers 3 wasn't so good?

I personally thought it wasn't TERRIBLE, but they did drag on the early part waaaay more than they should have.

Quote from: Neerb on July 12, 2011, 11:09:54 AM
I see it more as a series of complex back-up plans; if he didn't get the All Spark in the first movie, he had the Sun Harvester as a back up, and if the Sun Harvester didn't work, then he had the Space Bridge, and of course all three failed because of Sam.

As for jeopardizing his deals, he had that covered too, since his back-ups couldn't do anything anyway unless he wanted them to. If the All Spark worked and he didn't need the Fallen's help, then he could just leave Fallen plugged into his life support chair at his little base on Saturn. And Sentinel Prime couldn't be revived without the Matrix of Leadership, which was also needed to power the Sun Harvester, so if Megatron and the Fallen's sun-eating plan worked, they would just leave the guy dead on the moon, and of course their plan working meant they had the Matrix, so the Autobots wouldn't be able to revive him either.

It's actually pretty genre savvy for Megatron to have somehow had all these plans using all-powerful plot devices in motion at the same time; it's just too bad for him that Shia Labouf is an all-powerful plot device in of himself.

I never thought of it that way. Crazy.

Though all this is coming from someone who never saw the first two movies and don't know much about their plots soooo...yeah.

Gawd I vaguely remember the old cartoons...kinda wanna watch them now for nostalgia's sake.