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it's around 54 I believe
Yeah, I was just watching this.
I wondered what that was...
I think it was Knuckle Joe...
That didn't look like Bowser Jr. at all...
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 10:15:48 AM
That didn't look like Bowser Jr. at all...
When he jumps in the whole pause, you see an oval or circle with a bunch of spikes on it. I got this off of ns2 BTW
Yeah, thats probably Joe, his hair is the spikey part.
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
I don't hate Bowser Jr. :(
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
I don't hate Bowser Jr. :(
Well, what general age are you? (Basically, are you old enough to remember the origional koopa kids on their last game on the SNES?)
Personally, I hate the schmuck. I want the origional koopa kids back. They were much tougher than this prick...who never even fights you directly. He's either shadow mario or in his stupid little ship.
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
It looks like Bowser Jr. to me.
You can see the spikes on his back.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 10:42:49 AM
It looks like Bowser Jr. to me.
You can see the spikes on his back.
Knuckle Joe has spikey hair. Overall I htink it's Knuckle since it's more round with the apendages sticking out, rather than an actual body like BJr.
Trust me I'd LOVE to have Bjr. as a AT rather than a full blown character X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
I don't hate Bowser Jr. :(
Well, what general age are you? (Basically, are you old enough to remember the origional koopa kids on their last game on the SNES?)
Personally, I hate the schmuck. I want the origional koopa kids back. They were much tougher than this prick...who never even fights you directly. He's either shadow mario or in his stupid little ship.
Yeah, what ever happened to the Koopa Kids? I think the last game they appeared in was M&L.
They should have been brought back in New Super Mario Bros. Bowser Jr. doesn't deserve to capture the Princess.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
You're also seem to be forgetting that even if the Doc leaves, Mario series still has the most reps (tied) in the game based on Melee numbers. So we may see neither possibly. Although it's basically either Bjr. or Geno...and I'd MUCH rather have Geno. Much more origional, and FAR less annoying
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
(http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/cc/180px-Colorkids.jpg)
Those are the 3D Koopa Kids.
I don't see how there could be 7 fighters unless there's like a tag team...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
Would they be a tag team or something?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
Would they be a tag team or something?
They should have been Bowser's FS :D
I just want them to be in the actuall games more than Bowser Jr... they were more original.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
But does Sakurai like him more than Geno?
Thats all that really matters.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Can someone tell me what Mario game DOESN"T make the best seller list? Half of Sonic's scharacter's suck and his games still manage to sell well...
The only way we could tell which is more popular it to take a huge poll of tons of places. Although I really should go back on the Nsider forums archive and find FATMANONICE's petition he sent to Sakurai in favor of Geno about a year and a half ago. He had over 2000 signatures on it...so the demand is there for him (since tht was only from three or four internet forums at the time)
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 11:03:27 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
But does Sakurai like him more than Geno?
Thats all that really matters.
i havent asked him, but im sure he likes what will make people happy.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Can someone tell me what Mario game DOESN"T make the best seller list? Half of Sonic's scharacter's suck and his games still manage to sell well...
The only way we could tell which is more popular it to take a huge poll of tons of places. Although I really should go back on the Nsider forums archive and find FATMANONICE's petition he sent to Sakurai in favor of Geno about a year and a half ago. He had over 2000 signatures on it...so the demand is there for him (since tht was only from three or four internet forums at the time)
Besides, didn't Sakurai go out of his way to mention Geno in his journal on the preview site?
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:04:35 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Can someone tell me what Mario game DOESN"T make the best seller list? Half of Sonic's scharacter's suck and his games still manage to sell well...
The only way we could tell which is more popular it to take a huge poll of tons of places. Although I really should go back on the Nsider forums archive and find FATMANONICE's petition he sent to Sakurai in favor of Geno about a year and a half ago. He had over 2000 signatures on it...so the demand is there for him (since tht was only from three or four internet forums at the time)
quite a few mario games dont make best sellers
the ones where nintendo really goes all out like the 3 games i mentioned are good examples though
im sure a lot of people would like to see geno, but most people would RATHER see Bowser Jr.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:07:22 AM
quite a few mario games dont make best sellers
the ones where nintendo really goes all out like the 3 games i mentioned are good examples though
im sure a lot of people would like to see geno, but most people would RATHER see Bowser Jr.
You know what I meant by the besteller comment. Mario and PKMN are propbably the most easily marketable games in the universe...so if anything their "meh" games sell despite of their shortcomings (not saying those Mario games are BAD, but Sunshine wasn't that great, and NSMB was great, but not like the old Mario games were. Galaxy is the only one that comes close)
More people woudl rather see Bjr? I think you are basing that off of Geno's relative obscurity right now. If he was more well known outside of the gaming community, I'm sure he'd get more people wanting him. Also, please don't use that as a reason as to why Geno shouldn't be in. We got Pit in and he hadn't been in a game since 1991 on the GB that no one bought...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:07:22 AM
quite a few mario games dont make best sellers
the ones where nintendo really goes all out like the 3 games i mentioned are good examples though
im sure a lot of people would like to see geno, but most people would RATHER see Bowser Jr.
You know what I meant by the besteller comment. Mario and PKMN are propbably the most easily marketable games in the universe...so if anything their "meh" games sell despite of their shortcomings (not saying those Mario games are BAD, but Sunshine wasn't that great, and NSMB was great, but not like the old Mario games were. Galaxy is the only one that comes close)
More people woudl rather see Bjr? I think you are basing that off of Geno's relative obscurity right now. If he was more well known outside of the gaming community, I'm sure he'd get more people wanting him. Also, please don't use that as a reason as to why Geno shouldn't be in. We got Pit in and he hadn't been in a game since 1991 on the GB that no one bought...
first of all
sunshine is probably my second favorite game ever, right behind ssbm
im sure geno might be more popular if there were more games with him in it, but there arent.
Bowser jr has become one of the biggest mario icons in recent years
he has a lot of potential moves and even has the potential to trnasform into shadow mario
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:07:22 AM
quite a few mario games dont make best sellers
the ones where nintendo really goes all out like the 3 games i mentioned are good examples though
im sure a lot of people would like to see geno, but most people would RATHER see Bowser Jr.
You know what I meant by the besteller comment. Mario and PKMN are propbably the most easily marketable games in the universe...so if anything their "meh" games sell despite of their shortcomings (not saying those Mario games are BAD, but Sunshine wasn't that great, and NSMB was great, but not like the old Mario games were. Galaxy is the only one that comes close)
More people woudl rather see Bjr? I think you are basing that off of Geno's relative obscurity right now. If he was more well known outside of the gaming community, I'm sure he'd get more people wanting him. Also, please don't use that as a reason as to why Geno shouldn't be in. We got Pit in and he hadn't been in a game since 1991 on the GB that no one bought...
first of all
sunshine is probably my second favorite game ever, right behind ssbm
im sure geno might be more popular if there were more games with him in it, but there arent.
Bowser jr has become one of the biggest mario icons in recent years
he has a lot of potential moves and even has the potential to trnasform into shadow mario
The second fav game is mere opinion (if you look around most gaming sites and forums, Sunshine is generally seen as the "meh" Mario game few overly like). But again, both of those are opinion. One of the biggest icons....wouldn't that go to pretty much anyone in a Mario game....? I mean, all the characters are pretty easily recognizable. Heck, goomba is a bigger icon then since he's been in more games than Bjr.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
Interesting, if they were to be in, I think they would probably be costume changes, and not 7 individual characters, or something like the Ice Climbers.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:16:46 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:07:22 AM
quite a few mario games dont make best sellers
the ones where nintendo really goes all out like the 3 games i mentioned are good examples though
im sure a lot of people would like to see geno, but most people would RATHER see Bowser Jr.
You know what I meant by the besteller comment. Mario and PKMN are propbably the most easily marketable games in the universe...so if anything their "meh" games sell despite of their shortcomings (not saying those Mario games are BAD, but Sunshine wasn't that great, and NSMB was great, but not like the old Mario games were. Galaxy is the only one that comes close)
More people woudl rather see Bjr? I think you are basing that off of Geno's relative obscurity right now. If he was more well known outside of the gaming community, I'm sure he'd get more people wanting him. Also, please don't use that as a reason as to why Geno shouldn't be in. We got Pit in and he hadn't been in a game since 1991 on the GB that no one bought...
first of all
sunshine is probably my second favorite game ever, right behind ssbm
im sure geno might be more popular if there were more games with him in it, but there arent.
Bowser jr has become one of the biggest mario icons in recent years
he has a lot of potential moves and even has the potential to trnasform into shadow mario
The second fav game is mere opinion (if you look around most gaming sites and forums, Sunshine is generally seen as the "meh" Mario game few overly like). But again, both of those are opinion. One of the biggest icons....wouldn't that go to pretty much anyone in a Mario game....? I mean, all the characters are pretty easily recognizable. Heck, goomba is a bigger icon then since he's been in more games than Bjr.
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
What website and how many reviews?
And tell me, if he's so popular why doesn't he play more of a role than "ZOMG I KIDNAPPED ZE PRINCESS AGAIN!" junk. I mean, Bowser is busy creating a new galaxy to rule the universe, Wario is taking Mario castle in the one game he was the main villain, and so forth. BJr. does the same exact thing in every game...so I doubt he's "popular" as you put it, rather than Mario is having good games and people just sort of ignore him (hell, you only fight him once in galaxy, and that was on of the easiest boss fights I've ever played)
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
What website and how many reviews?
And tell me, if he's so popular why doesn't he play more of a role than "ZOMG I KIDNAPPED ZE PRINCESS AGAIN!" junk. I mean, Bowser is busy creating a new galaxy to rule the universe, Wario is taking Mario castle in the one game he was the main villain, and so forth. BJr. does the same exact thing in every game...so I doubt he's "popular" as you put it, rather than Mario is having good games and people just sort of ignore him (hell, you only fight him once in galaxy, and that was on of the easiest boss fights I've ever played)
i remember fighting him about 3 times in Galaxy.
The reason he doesnt do much is because he is a mini-boss and he is also like 8 years old.
Last time i checked, there arent many 8 year olds creating their own galaxies or taking over the world. ;)
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
What website and how many reviews?
And tell me, if he's so popular why doesn't he play more of a role than "ZOMG I KIDNAPPED ZE PRINCESS AGAIN!" junk. I mean, Bowser is busy creating a new galaxy to rule the universe, Wario is taking Mario castle in the one game he was the main villain, and so forth. BJr. does the same exact thing in every game...so I doubt he's "popular" as you put it, rather than Mario is having good games and people just sort of ignore him (hell, you only fight him once in galaxy, and that was on of the easiest boss fights I've ever played)
i remember fighting him about 3 times in Galaxy.
The reason he doesnt do much is because he is a mini-boss and he is also like 8 years old.
Last time i checked, there arent many 8 year olds creating their own galaxies or taking over the world. ;)
Two of those fights were King Caliente...not Bjr.
I remember the Koopa Kids helping Bowser take over the world in Mario 3 with their flying airship armada X_X;;
I just don't see the real reason to put him in as a playable character.
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
People just like Super Mario RPG, I guess.
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
People just like Super Mario RPG, I guess.
Yea, Mario RPG was the first good RPG game I ever played. And Geno was the best character in the game (one of his moves does 9999 damage every time if you know how to use it...but only in non boss fights)
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
People just like Super Mario RPG, I guess.
Yea, Mario RPG was the first good RPG game I ever played. And Geno was the best character in the game (one of his moves does 9999 damage every time if you know how to use it...but only in non boss fights)
Thats all? One move does massive damage?
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
People just like Super Mario RPG, I guess.
Yea, Mario RPG was the first good RPG game I ever played. And Geno was the best character in the game (one of his moves does 9999 damage every time if you know how to use it...but only in non boss fights)
Thats all? One move does massive damage?
Giving an example. He was still the best character in teh game and was the only character of any actual interest (Mario: save princess blah blah blah, etc.)
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:55:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 11:51:49 AM
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
I've been wondering what makes Geno so popular and most wanted for brawl?
People just like Super Mario RPG, I guess.
Yea, Mario RPG was the first good RPG game I ever played. And Geno was the best character in the game (one of his moves does 9999 damage every time if you know how to use it...but only in non boss fights)
Thats all? One move does massive damage?
Giving an example. He was still the best character in teh game and was the only character of any actual interest (Mario: save princess blah blah blah, etc.)
I really should try that game out...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
What website and how many reviews?
And tell me, if he's so popular why doesn't he play more of a role than "ZOMG I KIDNAPPED ZE PRINCESS AGAIN!" junk. I mean, Bowser is busy creating a new galaxy to rule the universe, Wario is taking Mario castle in the one game he was the main villain, and so forth. BJr. does the same exact thing in every game...so I doubt he's "popular" as you put it, rather than Mario is having good games and people just sort of ignore him (hell, you only fight him once in galaxy, and that was on of the easiest boss fights I've ever played)
i remember fighting him about 3 times in Galaxy.
The reason he doesnt do much is because he is a mini-boss and he is also like 8 years old.
Last time i checked, there arent many 8 year olds creating their own galaxies or taking over the world. ;)
Two of those fights were King Caliente...not Bjr.
I remember the Koopa Kids helping Bowser take over the world in Mario 3 with their flying airship armada X_X;;
I just don't see the real reason to put him in as a playable character.
no it was bowser jr
remember his ship where you would fire turtle shells at him
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:37:24 AM
funny you mention that cause customer reviews give it a 4.5 out of 5(nearly perfect) and reviews all say how good it is.
the point is bowser jr has proven himself because he has not been out as long as many game characters and his popularity spread fast.
What website and how many reviews?
And tell me, if he's so popular why doesn't he play more of a role than "ZOMG I KIDNAPPED ZE PRINCESS AGAIN!" junk. I mean, Bowser is busy creating a new galaxy to rule the universe, Wario is taking Mario castle in the one game he was the main villain, and so forth. BJr. does the same exact thing in every game...so I doubt he's "popular" as you put it, rather than Mario is having good games and people just sort of ignore him (hell, you only fight him once in galaxy, and that was on of the easiest boss fights I've ever played)
i remember fighting him about 3 times in Galaxy.
The reason he doesnt do much is because he is a mini-boss and he is also like 8 years old.
Last time i checked, there arent many 8 year olds creating their own galaxies or taking over the world. ;)
Two of those fights were King Caliente...not Bjr.
I remember the Koopa Kids helping Bowser take over the world in Mario 3 with their flying airship armada X_X;;
I just don't see the real reason to put him in as a playable character.
no it was bowser jr
remember his shi where you would fire turtle shells at him
Yes, that was the third "boss" fight (last planet of each dome)
Giant Robot Megalegs, Bowser, Bowser Jr. on ship, Bowser, King Kaliente.
Bowser Jr. APPEARS in the first and last ones, but he doesn't do anything. He basically just laughs at you because he's "better" (feh, I could beat him as Toad) and sends other people to do the work for him. Again, the one time you do fight him was one of the easiest boss fights I've ever played.
But Bowser Jr. is still very popular.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 10:31:32 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
I don't hate Bowser Jr. :(
Well, what general age are you? (Basically, are you old enough to remember the origional koopa kids on their last game on the SNES?)
Personally, I hate the schmuck. I want the origional koopa kids back. They were much tougher than this prick...who never even fights you directly. He's either shadow mario or in his stupid little ship.
I'm 15.
I really just played whatever there was in my house.
I played the SNES, but not to the point that I'd set out to beat a game. I'd just randomly start playing Super Mario World and not really do anything.
I remember I did own the GBA version of Super Mario Bros. 3. That was definitely fun, but then I got stuck and forgot about it. :D
Now, I bought Super Mario World for the Virtual Console and I didn't even realize the Koopalings were in it.
Anyway, I like both of them. I'd love to see all the Koopalings as one AT and do massive damage, just because a character would be really odd.
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
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Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
They're real name is the Koopalings ;)
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
R U CRAZY?
Geno= one old game, very popular
Bowser Jr.= at least 5 newer games, very popular
Bowser Jr. has better chances. Of course, if we're lucky, we may get Bowser Jr. AND Geno. :)
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
R U CRAZY?
Geno= one old game, very popular
Bowser Jr.= at least 5 newer games, very popular
Bowser Jr. has better chances. Of course, if we're lucky, we may get Bowser Jr. AND Geno. :)
Bowser Jr. is like the Tingle of the Mario.
No one likes him...
But I want both.
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:38:00 AM
1. I'm not a little kid.
2. Bowser Jr. is much more popular than Geno.
3. Bowser Jr. has been in many more games than Geno, hence his increased popularity.
However, I would like to see Bowser's first 8 children in another Mario game. Maybe they could even have all nine children together!
Do you mean popularity or general "Well knowness". More people "know" of Pikachu....but does that make him te most "popular". See what I'm getting at?
So overall we can't tell either.
The only reason B Jr. has been in more games is because Nintendo for some reason thinks he should be in games. I mean seriosuly, they bring EVRYTHING back from Mario 3 and World in Galaxy from the airships to music to the spinning screws but they won't bring back the koopa kids?! C'mon that's just lame.
If "well knowness" can get Pikachu in, than it can get Bowser Jr. in.
Pikachu is the icon of Pokemon. Bowser Jr. isn't the icon of the Mario games.
Only due to the show...not the game itself. If anything it would be either Charizard or one of the Legendaries... X_X;;
Yeah, but Pikachu has been pretty much the star in the games ever since Yellow version...
Oh, and Tuppy, I was talkig about these ones
(http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/03/koopalingsspread.jpg)
Those are just the Mario Party Koopa Kids.
They're real name is the Koopalings ;)
wrong
bowser jr has been in the past couple of mario party games
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
R U CRAZY?
Geno= one old game, very popular
Bowser Jr.= at least 5 newer games, very popular
Bowser Jr. has better chances. Of course, if we're lucky, we may get Bowser Jr. AND Geno. :)
Bowser Jr. is like the Tingle of the Mario.
No one likes him...
But I want both.
that was dumb
tingle literally does nothing
bowser jr does much more
geno is crap
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
R U CRAZY?
Geno= one old game, very popular
Bowser Jr.= at least 5 newer games, very popular
Bowser Jr. has better chances. Of course, if we're lucky, we may get Bowser Jr. AND Geno. :)
Bowser Jr. is like the Tingle of the Mario.
No one likes him...
But I want both.
that was dumb
tingle literally does nothing
bowser jr does much more
geno is crap
They both deserve to be in.
I'm just saying, I like Bowser Jr., but most people hate him because they thought he was pointless.
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
wrong
bowser jr has been in the past couple of mario party games
Mario Party 8:
(http://recensioni-videogiochi.dvd.it/images/Mario_party8/mario-party-8-1-m.jpg)
Mario Party DS:
"Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Princess Daisy, Toad, Wario and Waluigi are playable characters."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS)
I don't even see Bowser Jr. on this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters)
You were saying?
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:32:12 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 12:23:46 PM
Bowser Jr. has a better chance of being playable than the Koopa Kids.
Not as good a Geno, though.
R U CRAZY?
Geno= one old game, very popular
Bowser Jr.= at least 5 newer games, very popular
Bowser Jr. has better chances. Of course, if we're lucky, we may get Bowser Jr. AND Geno. :)
Bowser Jr. is like the Tingle of the Mario.
No one likes him...
But I want both.
You mean Zelda not Mario?
NONE OF THE MARIO PATIES HAVE ANY OF BOWSER'S CHILDREN. Those are Koopa kids, NOT the Koopalings, NOT Bowser Jr.
However, Bowser Jr. has been in: Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Strikers Charged, Mario Kart Double Dash, New Super Mario Bros., and Super Mario Galaxy.
Much more impressive than Geno's 1 game or the Koopalings' 2(?).
Bowser Jr. has the best chance at being playable.
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
wrong
bowser jr has been in the past couple of mario party games
Mario Party 8:
(http://recensioni-videogiochi.dvd.it/images/Mario_party8/mario-party-8-1-m.jpg)
Mario Party DS:
"Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Princess Daisy, Toad, Wario and Waluigi are playable characters."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS)
I don't even see Bowser Jr. on this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters)
You were saying?
retard he was the badguy along with BOWSER
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
wrong
bowser jr has been in the past couple of mario party games
Mario Party 8:
(http://recensioni-videogiochi.dvd.it/images/Mario_party8/mario-party-8-1-m.jpg)
Mario Party DS:
"Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Princess Daisy, Toad, Wario and Waluigi are playable characters."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS)
I don't even see Bowser Jr. on this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters)
You were saying?
retard he was the badguy along with BOWSER
Now you're relying on insults... :|
I never saw Bowser Jr. in Mario Party 8...
I haven't played Mario Party DS
You're sure you're not thinking of:
(Not actually a spoiler)
[spoiler](http://www.niwifi.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mparty5_koopa_kid.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 01:14:03 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 12:32:50 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:59:51 AM
Quote from: Apollo on January 26, 2008, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
BOWSER JR WILL BE PLAYABLE!!!
He's THE most popular Mario newcomer; if he's not in, there probably aren't any Mario reps (except maybe Geno, but Bowser Jr. has WAY bigger chances than him)
In case you haven't noticed....near everyone but little kids hate Bowser Jr.
He's nothing compared to the real koopa kids and frankly Geno has a MUCH better move potential than Bowser Jr. does.
Besides, I bet more poeple want Geno over Bowser Jr.
that was the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time
bowser jrs chances are extremely high and geno is a piece of crap.
although even if that was bowser jr, which its not, then dont you think he wouldve had powers a little more suitable for him
Mario RPG was a better game than just about everything Bower Jr. has been in...save for possibly Galaxy.
bowser jr was in a ton of mario party games (doesnt mean much)
but he was also is super mario sunshine (best seller)
new super mario bros (best seller)
super mario galaxy (best seller)
plus more people like him
Those are the Koopa Kids in Mario Party NOT Bowser Jr.
However, he was in Mario Strikers, as well as Mario Kart.
wrong
bowser jr has been in the past couple of mario party games
Mario Party 8:
(http://recensioni-videogiochi.dvd.it/images/Mario_party8/mario-party-8-1-m.jpg)
Mario Party DS:
"Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Princess Daisy, Toad, Wario and Waluigi are playable characters."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_DS)
I don't even see Bowser Jr. on this chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Party_%28series%29#Playable_characters)
You were saying?
retard he was the badguy along with BOWSER
Now you're relying on insults... :|
I never saw Bowser Jr. in Mario Party 8...
I haven't played Mario Party DS
You're sure you're not thinking of:
(Not actually a spoiler)
[spoiler](http://www.niwifi.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mparty5_koopa_kid.jpg)[/spoiler]
Yeah... Bowser Jr. isn't in Mario Party... that The Koopa Kid.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
You're not getting my point on the previous post. It's not based on any one element, nor is it some mathematicall equation that you seem to be suggesting.
We don't know what the criteria is, or else we'd know who is in. If it were popularity alone, quite a few ofshoot characters would get in. If it was number of games, it'd be Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic, if it were moveset potential, Falcon, Fox, etc. would be ineligable.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
You're not getting my point on the previous post. It's not based on any one element, nor is it some mathematicall equation that you seem to be suggesting.
We don't know what the criteria is, or else we'd know who is in. If it were popularity alone, quite a few ofshoot characters would get in. If it was number of games, it'd be Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic, if it were moveset potential, Falcon, Fox, etc. would be ineligable.
The Ice Climbers got in, and they were neither popular nor have they had many games.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
You're not getting my point on the previous post. It's not based on any one element, nor is it some mathematicall equation that you seem to be suggesting.
We don't know what the criteria is, or else we'd know who is in. If it were popularity alone, quite a few ofshoot characters would get in. If it was number of games, it'd be Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic, if it were moveset potential, Falcon, Fox, etc. would be ineligable.
The Ice Climbers got in, and they were neither popular nor have they had many games.
And that's where Sakurai's bias comes in. ;)
Wow, this thread has spawned so many debates...
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
You're not getting my point on the previous post. It's not based on any one element, nor is it some mathematicall equation that you seem to be suggesting.
We don't know what the criteria is, or else we'd know who is in. If it were popularity alone, quite a few ofshoot characters would get in. If it was number of games, it'd be Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic, if it were moveset potential, Falcon, Fox, etc. would be ineligable.
The Ice Climbers got in, and they were neither popular nor have they had many games.
And that's where Sakurai's bias comes in. ;)
Wow, this thread has spawned so many debates...
I believe Sakurai loved the Ice Climbers...
Quote from: Tuppyluver1 on January 26, 2008, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on January 26, 2008, 02:14:39 PM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 26, 2008, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 02:06:39 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on January 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 12:57:19 PM
Smash Bro: If it were based on sheer number of games, it'd be the Mario vs. Pokemon game, not Super Smash Bros.
Pit would never qualify as well as half of the characters.
But Pit is very popular, while Magikarp (who has been in practically every pokemon game) is not.
Bowser Jr. is as popular as Geno or Koopalings, but he's had more games too. That means he has better chances.
Think of it this way: Bowser Jr. = 10 (popularity) + 5 (games)= 15
Geno = 10 (popularity) + 1 (games)= 11
15>11
You're not getting my point on the previous post. It's not based on any one element, nor is it some mathematicall equation that you seem to be suggesting.
We don't know what the criteria is, or else we'd know who is in. If it were popularity alone, quite a few ofshoot characters would get in. If it was number of games, it'd be Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic, if it were moveset potential, Falcon, Fox, etc. would be ineligable.
The Ice Climbers got in, and they were neither popular nor have they had many games.
And that's where Sakurai's bias comes in. ;)
Wow, this thread has spawned so many debates...
I believe Sakurai loved the Ice Climbers...
He also likes Geno and SIgurd as far as I understand it...
However it seems Sigurd may not be in with all of the "leaks" not saying a word about him
Why not just wait til the game comes out in japan to find out if B Jr. is a character or A.T?
Quote from: PLAYAT on January 26, 2008, 02:49:14 PM
Why not just wait til the game comes out in japan to find out if B Jr. is a character or A.T?
cuz where bored with nothing better to do.
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Throw in Mario, Peach, Bowser, and (possibly) Luigi, that's 7 Reps for Mario.
That's more than enough, methinks.
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
I personally still count him as a rep, regardless of whether they have the same thing or not.
Anyway we've got Mario, Peach, Bowser, Luigi (more likely than not), Yoshi, and Wario already. That's six people from Mario.
Counting DK, that's seven.
We have enough Mario representatives.
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
I personally still count him as a rep, regardless of whether they have the same thing or not.
Anyway we've got Mario, Peach, Bowser, Luigi (more likely than not), Yoshi, and Wario already. That's six people from Mario.
Counting DK, that's seven.
We have enough Mario representatives.
Can you elaborate as to why DK? I have a hard time understand why he shouldn't be on his own, especiall since Diddy is definatley more DK than Mario (only appeared in Mario Kart to give DK a second guy in Double Dash). I can understand Wario, since he's basically a personal preference...
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:50:03 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 26, 2008, 03:47:17 PM
Quote from: Dei Enyt on January 26, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
I personally still count him as a rep, regardless of whether they have the same thing or not.
Anyway we've got Mario, Peach, Bowser, Luigi (more likely than not), Yoshi, and Wario already. That's six people from Mario.
Counting DK, that's seven.
We have enough Mario representatives.
Can you elaborate as to why DK? I have a hard time understand why he shouldn't be on his own, especiall since Diddy is definatley more DK than Mario (only appeared in Mario Kart to give DK a second guy in Double Dash). I can understand Wario, since he's basically a personal preference...
Does classic rivalry mean anything? That's why I count him as a Mario rep.
And Wario isn't based on preference. As far as I know, Wario ORIGINATED in a Mario game.
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Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
I personally still count him as a rep, regardless of whether they have the same thing or not.
Anyway we've got Mario, Peach, Bowser, Luigi (more likely than not), Yoshi, and Wario already. That's six people from Mario.
Counting DK, that's seven.
We have enough Mario representatives.
Can you elaborate as to why DK? I have a hard time understand why he shouldn't be on his own, especiall since Diddy is definatley more DK than Mario (only appeared in Mario Kart to give DK a second guy in Double Dash). I can understand Wario, since he's basically a personal preference...
Does classic rivalry mean anything? That's why I count him as a Mario rep.
And Wario isn't based on preference. As far as I know, Wario ORIGINATED in a Mario game.
If you want to play the origionated card, then Mario should be a DK rep., since the first game either appeared in was a Donkey Kong game (in fact, Mario was a non-issue until the Mario Bros. arcade game roughly five years later). I htink Wario is based on preference since being equally famous for the Mario games and for his own Land/Ware titles on gameboy...
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Personally, I don't want BJ OR Geno playable. I think we've got enough Mario reps, even if they don't have a Mushroom for an icon.
You mean Yoshi? Yea I don't understand why he doesn't have the Mario icon...he's basically a Mario character who deserves his own stages too X_X;;
Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong (If you look at the older perspective of things).
Yoshi is definatley Mario, Wario....hm...he's tough. Depends on how they're using him. I think he can be his own if they use only Ware stuff. DK is his own. If you look back, then Mario is technically a DK character, since it was called "Donkey Kong" not "Super Mario"...
Why is he in games like Mario Kart, then? =/
Who...you mean DK? I dunno... the two are forever linked, but DK is his own thing. Multiple series of games completely seperate from the Mario-verse, and only appearing with Mario in spinoffs until the GBA games.
I personally still count him as a rep, regardless of whether they have the same thing or not.
Anyway we've got Mario, Peach, Bowser, Luigi (more likely than not), Yoshi, and Wario already. That's six people from Mario.
Counting DK, that's seven.
We have enough Mario representatives.
Can you elaborate as to why DK? I have a hard time understand why he shouldn't be on his own, especiall since Diddy is definatley more DK than Mario (only appeared in Mario Kart to give DK a second guy in Double Dash). I can understand Wario, since he's basically a personal preference...
Does classic rivalry mean anything? That's why I count him as a Mario rep.
And Wario isn't based on preference. As far as I know, Wario ORIGINATED in a Mario game.
If you want to play the origionated card, then Mario should be a DK rep., since the first game either appeared in was a Donkey Kong game (in fact, Mario was a non-issue until the Mario Bros. arcade game roughly five years later). I htink Wario is based on preference since being equally famous for the Mario games and for his own Land/Ware titles on gameboy...
Regardless, 6/7 characters from the same/similar series is too much as it is. If we're gonna put every Mario character in, then we may as well make all 500 of the Pokemon playable while we're at it. =/
That's understandable (that still doesn't change the fact that I want Geno). As long as other series get generally more representation as well, I'm okay if Mario or pokemon get a bit more (as long as the not clones thing). I don't want more Mario characters while series like F=Zero or Kirby would get no more reps.
I personally don't care about where they originated: technically, because of the symbols, there are four Mario reps, and having another would be fine.
I mean, if we're really going for the whole "origins" thing, then ALL of them are DK characters, since Yoshi, Wario, Bowser, Luigi, and Peach originated from Mario games, and Mario originated from Donkey Kong.
That's what I was trying to say X_X;;
Also, that whole "500 pokemon" thing is an exaggeration: if there's 7 "mario" characters, why would that have 500 pokemon? I'd think they'd only have, like, 7. ;)
Also, there's technically 493 pokemon (i lIke teh pogeymans!).
Meh. I know I was being a little over the top with my example, but it doesn't change my opinion.
I just think we've got enough Mario as it is. =/
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Meh. I know I was being a little over the top with my example, but it doesn't change my opinion.
I just think we've got enough Mario as it is. =/
I know, and I undestand why and overall I support that opinion (Personally I just happen to like Geno and after him I don't want any more Mario)
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Meh. I know I was being a little over the top with my example, but it doesn't change my opinion.
I just think we've got enough Mario as it is. =/
I know, and I undestand why and overall I support that opinion (Personally I just happen to like Geno and after him I don't want any more Mario)
What if Bowser jr. gets in, THEN Geno gets in. That way, we could have Bowser Jr. without having anyone after Geno! :)
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Meh. I know I was being a little over the top with my example, but it doesn't change my opinion.
I just think we've got enough Mario as it is. =/
thats cause mario has a lot of important characters
games like fire emblem dont have much to offer so they cant throw in "too many" characters
Geno is more popular.
Jr. is less popular.
Jr.'s been in more games.
Geno's been in less games.
Jr.'s a main character.
Geno's not a main character.
Sakurai loves Geno.
Sakurai doesn't love Jr.
They're tied. Neither of them deserve it any more than the other. You just have to wait for the release. :|
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
It's a Mario game...what mario game doesn't appeal to kids? I mean, I was five when Mario RPG came out and I still wanted to play it X_X;;
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
It's a Mario game...what mario game doesn't appeal to kids? I mean, I was five when Mario RPG came out and I still wanted to play it X_X;;
but not all of us had game systems at that age
now when we play games today we see bowser jr and WE LIKE HIM
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
It's a Mario game...what mario game doesn't appeal to kids? I mean, I was five when Mario RPG came out and I still wanted to play it X_X;;
but not all of us had game systems at that age
now when we play games today we see bowser jr and WE LIKE HIM
If anything more kids today have gaming systems then when I was five. And who is this "we" you speak of? (reffering to poll in which Geno is still winning)
If anything he is the "slap in" character of the series. Nintendo just seems to content to slap him in any Mario game just because they went ahead and created the schmuck...
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
It's a Mario game...what mario game doesn't appeal to kids? I mean, I was five when Mario RPG came out and I still wanted to play it X_X;;
but not all of us had game systems at that age
now when we play games today we see bowser jr and WE LIKE HIM
If anything more kids today have gaming systems then when I was five. And who is this "we" you speak of? (reffering to poll in which Geno is still winning)
If anything he is the "slap in" character of the series. Nintendo just seems to content to slap him in any Mario game just because they went ahead and created the schmuck...
yes thats exactly what im saying.
more kids today have systems and play more games, which mean more kids are familiar with bowser jr and more kids love him
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
sakurai never said that he didnt love bowser jr
its also not true that geno is more popular
kids from all ages all over the world like bowser jr better
Because they haven't played Mario RPG because it isn't on VC yet X_X;;
Who knows, they may like Geno more if they ever got to see him.
but many kids all over the world havent played it and have seen bowser jr a few times
so...
Once again due to Nintendo's inability to actually listen to their hardcore fanbase. It's a sahme Sakurai is leaving after Brawl...he's the only one who actually does that. (WiiFit WTF?!)
not just hard core but dont forget it also has to appeal to kids of all ages whether they were born yet or not
It's a Mario game...what mario game doesn't appeal to kids? I mean, I was five when Mario RPG came out and I still wanted to play it X_X;;
but not all of us had game systems at that age
now when we play games today we see bowser jr and WE LIKE HIM
If anything more kids today have gaming systems then when I was five. And who is this "we" you speak of? (reffering to poll in which Geno is still winning)
If anything he is the "slap in" character of the series. Nintendo just seems to content to slap him in any Mario game just because they went ahead and created the schmuck...
yes thats exactly what im saying.
more kids today have systems and play more games, which mean more kids are familiar with bowser jr and more kids love him
You're speaking for the kids aren't you? I seirously don't think the kids overly care, as long as Bowser is the main bad guy. They might as well do what the hardcore wants in some regards in bringing koopa kids back, or Geno, or other stuff from the old games (I mean they practically carbon copied Mario 3 into Galaxy and not bring the koopa kids!?)
Quote from: LuigiMan on January 27, 2008, 01:24:09 AM
Geno is more popular.
Jr. is less popular.
Jr.'s been in more games.
Geno's been in less games.
Jr.'s a main character.
Geno's not a main character.
Sakurai loves Geno.
Sakurai doesn't love Jr.
They're tied. Neither of them deserve it any more than the other. You just have to wait for the release. :|
More like Geno and Bowser Jr. are tied for popularity, maybe Bowser Jr. has a bit more popularity. Then whoever said that Sakurai loves Geno more then Bowser Jr? :| Your point failed because that first and last statements are just YOUR opinion =|
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
Sakurai considers him 1st party... I think.
And he is a spirit possesing a doll (I think) and he has lasers... Sounds good to me.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
lol :D Well he looks like Tenguman from Megaman (smaller, just mainly the nose), and he reminds me of Pinochio (sp?) (that Disney movie). Anyway I thought Sakurai considered him 2nd party, and also they are letting 3rd parties in, Snake, and Sonic for example and hopefully Megaman.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
That looks like Knuckle Joe to me, and I watched it, like, 15 times.
On the subject at hand, debating this now is kind of pointless (heck, it was pointless since the games inception). However, just because Bowser Jr. is "new and hot" doesn't mean anything. With the exception of Lucario, all of the Pokemon playables are 1st gen, and their popularity hasn't wavered over the years; in case that was a bad example, Mr. Game & Watch, Pit, and Ice Climbers come back from the pre-Mega Man days, and they made it in. Sakurai doesn't care what the younger generation thinks about characters, since many aren't aware that there was even a remote possibility of Bowser Jr. being in, they just want the game. The older generation is aware of the character's and game's significance (for lack of a better word), so his planning is to cater to us.
After all of that, I have mixed feelings on both charaters. I've never played Super Mario RPG, but this Geno intrigues me; however, if he is indeed counted as 3rd party, and there is this notion of the "final 3rd party", I'd rather he's not in due to the obvious. Regarding Bowser Jr.: I hate him. He's nothing more than a poorly designed mix of a Koopaling and Prince/Baby Bowser (Who is so much cooler and powerful, BTW). I'd rather he just be an AT, or have Baby Bowser in instead.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
That's how I've always seen it.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Bower Jr. isn't a fighter at all. All he does is run away. If he ever does fight you he has a machine or big Bowser by his side.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
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Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Of course I know OoT was a huge classic. It's onyl considered one of the greatest games of all time (and first ot get a perfect rating by Famitsu). If you want to look at importance, Sheik has very little of it. Sheik was only Zelda's attempt to aid link while still be in hiding. It still would've been perfectly plausible to give Zelda a different Down B attack. Geno has no appeal? Then Pit, Game and Watch, IC's, quite a few FE characcters, Earthbound, and F-Zero characters should all be out then and we might as well make it hte Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic. And can someone please tell me what is so speical about Bjr? He hasn't done one origional thing since coming on board and basically has done exactly what Bowser has been doing for hte past 23 years...kidnap the princes...yet again....and again...and again.
Quote from: Cornwad on January 27, 2008, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Bower Jr. isn't a fighter at all. All he does is run away. If he ever does fight you he has a machine or big Bowser by his side.
I feel the same fate that Waluigi got will hapen to Bowser Jr.....
Quote from: Cornwad on January 27, 2008, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Bower Jr. isn't a fighter at all. All he does is run away. If he ever does fight you he has a machine or big Bowser by his side.
Can you picture Bowser Jr. fighting? It's not hard to imagine.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 27, 2008, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Bower Jr. isn't a fighter at all. All he does is run away. If he ever does fight you he has a machine or big Bowser by his side.
Can you picture Bowser Jr. fighting? It's not hard to imagine.
But its much easier to imagine Geno fighting, because he actually fights in his games.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Of course I know OoT was a huge classic. It's onyl considered one of the greatest games of all time (and first ot get a perfect rating by Famitsu). If you want to look at importance, Sheik has very little of it. Sheik was only Zelda's attempt to aid link while still be in hiding. It still would've been perfectly plausible to give Zelda a different Down B attack. Geno has no appeal? Then Pit, Game and Watch, IC's, quite a few FE characcters, Earthbound, and F-Zero characters should all be out then and we might as well make it hte Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic. And can someone please tell me what is so speical about Bjr? He hasn't done one origional thing since coming on board and basically has done exactly what Bowser has been doing for hte past 23 years...kidnap the princes...yet again....and again...and again.
That's a horrible thing to say.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 11:08:17 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Of course I know OoT was a huge classic. It's onyl considered one of the greatest games of all time (and first ot get a perfect rating by Famitsu). If you want to look at importance, Sheik has very little of it. Sheik was only Zelda's attempt to aid link while still be in hiding. It still would've been perfectly plausible to give Zelda a different Down B attack. Geno has no appeal? Then Pit, Game and Watch, IC's, quite a few FE characcters, Earthbound, and F-Zero characters should all be out then and we might as well make it hte Mario vs. Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic. And can someone please tell me what is so speical about Bjr? He hasn't done one origional thing since coming on board and basically has done exactly what Bowser has been doing for hte past 23 years...kidnap the princes...yet again....and again...and again.
That's a horrible thing to say.
Well, you said a character has to appeal to people (or you said Geno has no appeal, which interprets as the previous statement), and if that's the case than it might as well be Mario vs Pokemon with guest stars Link and Sonic...because then at least half the characteres would be out then.
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Cornwad on January 27, 2008, 11:05:36 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 11:03:59 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 10:43:13 AM
Quote from: tollhouse2006 on January 27, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
What is Geno anyway. He looks like a puppet to me. He has to be one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. He doesn't look cool and Sakurai considers him 3rd party so how can he possibly get in?
He's a spirit possesing the puppet. ANd he has rocket arms, lazer beams, and magic attacks...so what makes him a bad candidate?
If you want to be really technical...he's more like 1.5 party since he's owned by both Square and Nintendo
The fact that the RPG wasn't developed by Nintendo makes him a third party and if he was in only one game why should he deserve to be in more than Bowser Jr.?
The IC's and Sheik were in one game and they got in...so that argument fails massively. It's nintendo's characters and Nintnedo's systems. Square just developed the game (how Sega made F-Zero GX or Square made Mario Hoops). If Nintendo had some part in the game, they own some part of the property. They might as well make him first party (since he will never be on anything other than Nintendo anyway) and Square can't use him unless Nintendo says okay, so they might as well let him in Smash should Nintendo want to (free advertisement for Square)
Here's a history lesson. The ice climbers are in because they were Sakurai's favorite game during his childhood and Ocarina of Time was a huge classic and was considered the greatest adventure game at the time so Melee focused on Oot and since Zelda was in there and shiek was involved in alot of Oot's plot there wasn't a reason for her not to be included. I heard Sakurai considers Geno third party but Geno doesn't look like a fighter and he has no appeal to people who have never played the RPG. Bowser Jr. however has been in every Mario game including the Mario spin offs like Mario Kart, Tennis, Strikers, Baseball, you name it in the last four years.
Bower Jr. isn't a fighter at all. All he does is run away. If he ever does fight you he has a machine or big Bowser by his side.
Can you picture Bowser Jr. fighting? It's not hard to imagine.
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
dont forget zelda
he could also use his paintbrush for attacks. his spiny shell and fire breathing
If Bowser Jr. is in, he should definately use his paint brush. However, I have always been against Shadow Mario; if ANY more Marios get in, it should be Paper Mario... not that I even want anymore Marios.
He should also shoot fire balls.
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:15:16 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
dont forget zelda
he could also use his paintbrush for attacks. his spiny shell and fire breathing
Bjr doesn't have a spiny shell...it's more like tiny little bumps on the shell. Besides, I don't see the point of having Bjr. if we already have Bowser who is infinately better and cooler than his "son" is
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you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
dont forget zelda
he could also use his paintbrush for attacks. his spiny shell and fire breathing
Bjr doesn't have a spiny shell...it's more like tiny little bumps on the shell. Besides, I don't see the point of having Bjr. if we already have Bowser who is infinately better and cooler than his "son" is
same reason we will have a less cooler luigi
it adds diversity and a slightly different moveset with strengths and weaknesses of their own
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Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 27, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
dont forget zelda
he could also use his paintbrush for attacks. his spiny shell and fire breathing
Bjr doesn't have a spiny shell...it's more like tiny little bumps on the shell. Besides, I don't see the point of having Bjr. if we already have Bowser who is infinately better and cooler than his "son" is
same reason we will have a less cooler luigi
it adds diversity and a slightly different moveset with strengths and weaknesses of their own
Are you sugguesting that Bjr be a clone/semi-clone now? Look, Luigi is "different" in the fact that he's like Mario but not. Bowser Jr...is just that. Small Bowser...why do we need taht?
Quote from: Apollo on January 27, 2008, 11:58:31 AM
you actually did get to fight him in new super mario bros
remember that he would run at you and sometimes use his spinning withdraw power to come at you
Yea...and all you did was jump on him or kick koopa shells at him...which rates his toughness at about hte level of an ordinary koopa or goomba X_X;;
I have yet to see him do anything unique or actually powerful worth of his "koopaness" or something. I mean, at least half hte koopa kids could spew fireballs and the other half had a unique ability...Bowser Jr. has yet to show anything.
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:D
yeah he probably was the easiest boss ive ever fought
but still captain falcon and peach werent really warriors but were turned into warriors. not so much peach
i think the shadow mario transformation could ass a lot to his character. plus you could give him some paint abilities.
he has potential
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WEll, Falcon had his bio as a bounty hunter (so he had to have something to go on...). Yea, Peach had nothing, but I never said they couldn't give him moves. Just that I don't see any reason to put him in. One of the main reasons I dislike Bjr. is because of hte Shadow Mario transformation his fans seem so intent on using. The LAST thing I want is more Mario's running around. IF he gets in, the brush is hte only way I'll accept him because its' the only way he could be different. Unfortunatley if Nintendo couldn't really bring it out other than (ZOMG HE"S POLLUTING HEZ EVILZ!) in his own game I doubt they'd be able to do much for Smash Bros.
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it would be cool if he could do that bubbly teleportation thing
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We already have two teleporter's if Mewtwo is in X_X;;
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dont forget zelda
he could also use his paintbrush for attacks. his spiny shell and fire breathing
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Bjr doesn't have a spiny shell...it's more like tiny little bumps on the shell. Besides, I don't see the point of having Bjr. if we already have Bowser who is infinately better and cooler than his "son" is
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same reason we will have a less cooler luigi
it adds diversity and a slightly different moveset with strengths and weaknesses of their own
[/quote]Are you sugguesting that Bjr be a clone/semi-clone now? Look, Luigi is "different" in the fact that he's like Mario but not. Bowser Jr...is just that. Small Bowser...why do we need taht?
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luigi, for the most part, is a semi clone
he will many of marios moves but will be updated a bit
same with bjr
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Luigi is different enough to be played differently than Mario. I know Bjr can be the same way as Luigi, but we have Bowser as the bad guy. The thing is either Bjr. will be too much of a clone of Bowser or he'll be borrowing off of someone else unless he completely relies on the brush for all his attacks (which they got rid of after one game)
Ok I'm locking this and putting it on the rumor thread
Take all coversations about this to either the geno or bowser jr. thread or the rumor thread