brawl is so much better than i thought it would be. it's awesome. some people, i won't mention any names, *cough, jono2, cough* said that the game was rushed. the game is about as perfect as any game could be. it's not rushed at all. what do u think?
Brawl is the best game of all time!
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
its better! i love it! best game on the wii
Quote from: tibar7 on March 12, 2008, 03:13:48 PM
brawl is so much better than i thought it would be. it's awesome. some people, i won't mention any names, *cough, jono2, cough* said that the game was rushed. the game is about as perfect as any game could be. it's not rushed at all. what do u think?
Brawl is the best game of all time!
it's better than I was expecting it to be, but there are obvious things that they could have improved with very, very little effort.
It is certainly the best game I have played in a while, but so much more could have/should have been done.
So much potential gone to waste.
It is better than I expected, but there are a few things that could have been better. The fact that you can unlock mostly all characters on SSE is dissapointing. I wish that it could have been like the previous where you encounter them.
Quote from: darklink140 on March 12, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
It is better than I expected, but there are a few things that could have been better. The fact that you can unlock mostly all characters on SSE is dissapointing. I wish that it could have been like the previous where you encounter them.
There's an easy remedy for that.
DON'T PLAY SSE.
Yes, but still, the character issue is a big one.
Even IF you don't play SSE, the characters are all unlocked by the [spoiler]450th normal brawl[/spoiler]
so if you have a big party, you'll probably end up getting at least half of the characters.
Eh, about the same as melee...
and you got that from click, right? :P
Its amazing. Of course, like any other game, things couldve been made better, but i love it noetheless
SSBB is the best game I have ever played.
I'm extremely happy with the results,
HOWEVER- as a lot of people have said...it could of been a lot better then what it is.
I 100% Agree with them and what IGN says about the game SSBB.
(save the music)
I think that Super Smash Bros. Brawl is a LOT better than I expected and I had very high expectations for the game.
Worse actually. I was excited for online play not only feels like online play once you exchange friend codes but can't use voice chat play
Also, Geno would of made it the best game ever. 8)
Quote from: Geno on March 13, 2008, 06:52:42 PM
Worse actually. I was excited for online play not only feels like online play once you exchange friend codes but can't use voice chat play
Also, Geno would of made it the best game ever. 8)
Even SMRPG was in the Chronicles.
I thought it was going to be not good...
So yes, much better than expected.
actually, what I expected was what I got. :)
This is the bes game ever.
i'm actually strting to like the roster now..:O
btw, nothing is perfect ;)
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the
slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
I can agree.
This is honestly IMO The best Wii game ever...and will be for a very long time.
The only game I see that could possibly Rival SSBB is Mario Kart Wii (which I am getting).
Well, Mario Kart Wii Rivals SSBB in the Fun Factor...and it's a good thing it's online or else the replay value would be Shot.
I never had so much joy in a video game...not in a Verrrrrrrrrry long time.
Yup agreed [spoiler](http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/jakfan/michaeljacksonmoonwalk.jpg)[/spoiler]
Hmm what I have recently noticed...is that it is nto as good as i thought. It is extremlly fun but to me it feels just the same as melee exept for all the added things, its pretty much the same game, when I am vsing on an melee stage it just feels like I am playing melee, a big dissapointment for me.
Another thing that I like about this game is all of the retro stuff that they have in the game. Like music from past Nintendo titles which brings back a lot of awesome memories of some of the greatest video games of all time. Not to mention the demos of the old NES games. I like the memorobilia of past Nintendo games especially the music because I grew up on Nintendo and spent most of my life playing Nintendo games.
Quote from: ilovebrandyharrington on March 15, 2008, 03:09:11 PM
Another thing that I like about this game is all of the retro stuff that they have in the game. Like music from past Nintendo titles which brings back a lot of awesome memories of some of the greatest video games of all time. Not to mention the demos of the old NES games. I like the memorobilia of past Nintendo games especially the music because I grew up on Nintendo and spent most of my life playing Nintendo games.
* nods i rember the NES when i was 4 :)
Hmm. It seems a bit better than I was expecting, and I also think that it is the best wii game out there. It will also be the best wii game period... This game was delayed quite a bit, to reach near perfection, which is good. However, it reminds me of another game that was delayed a large amount that turned out to be perfect...
I expected it to be pretty good, and it turned out pretty good. Feels like Melee, but with tripping, and A LOT of other stuff.
Well, I am not saying it is better, but it did live up to my expectations. The only thing I really dislike is the random falling stuff. Seriously, what the heck were they thinking!
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
the tripping is something I'll never understand. why put such a useless and annoying thing in the game? it happens terribly often, and it doesn't help anyone.
Toon Link and Final smashes were better than I expected so yeah it exceeded mine.
It kinda feels like an alternate version of Melee... as if time split off in two directions and one produced Melee and one produced Brawl.. haha. They're very similar but there's a lot of differences... which makes me miss Melee incredibly as I play it... but at the same time I'm enjoying all the new stuff.
I think sometimes I'll be in a Melee type of mood... and sometimes I'll choose Brawl instead. I wanna play the whole series back and forth one day with friends and try and find which one we think is best.
Anyways, the game is still new.. it's slowly growing on me. Some parts just feel watered down. It didn't seem to evolve from Melee but just grow from the original in a different way... so it mirrors Melee as in it's the same but also the opposite... ya know..
I do like it. Just... something's... strange about it... haha.
Quote from: THEEVILSPERKY on March 16, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
It kinda feels like an alternate version of Melee... as if time split off in two directions and one produced Melee and one produced Brawl.. haha. They're very similar but there's a lot of differences... which makes me miss Melee incredibly as I play it... but at the same time I'm enjoying all the new stuff.
I think sometimes I'll be in a Melee type of mood... and sometimes I'll choose Brawl instead. I wanna play the whole series back and forth one day with friends and try and find which one we think is best.
Anyways, the game is still new.. it's slowly growing on me. Some parts just feel watered down. It didn't seem to evolve from Melee but just grow from the original in a different way... so it mirrors Melee as in it's the same but also the opposite... ya know..
I do like it. Just... something's... strange about it... haha.
Thats how I feel about it, but i was to lazy to type all that :|
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
Quote from: Phaze on March 16, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
i don't know why people say that they don't like SSE! it was one of the best parts of this game!
Quote from: Oren on March 16, 2008, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 16, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
i don't know why people say that they don't like SSE! it was one of the best parts of this game!
while the sub space is awesome i enjoy the multiplayer stock matches with siblings and friends the most.
Quote from: Oren on March 16, 2008, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 16, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
i don't know why people say that they don't like SSE! it was one of the best parts of this game!
I enjoyed it until the maze >:(
Quote from: Allegretto on March 16, 2008, 07:59:55 PM
Quote from: Oren on March 16, 2008, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 16, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
i don't know why people say that they don't like SSE! it was one of the best parts of this game!
I enjoyed it until the maze >:(
i'm still stuck on the maze. i unlocked the whole roster by playing vs. matches.
Quote from: Oren on March 16, 2008, 06:12:38 PM
Quote from: Phaze on March 16, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
Well... Not better or worse. It is just what I was expecting. My only complaint is the SSE. Too repetitive.
i don't know why people say that they don't like SSE! it was one of the best parts of this game!
I never said I didn't like it, I found it quite enjoyable. I just didn't like how all the levels were pretty much the same. You just run through the level, stoping to fight the annoying enemies that randomly pop up, and enter to the next level. It just could have been so much better.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
Oh, yeah. More unlockables instantly makes the game better.
Thanks for pointing that out.
When it comes down to it, unlockables don't mean poop. So what if there are more unlockable stages? Most of them are crappy ones. The only thing that Brawl decently improves on is the characters. Put the characters in a melee play style (same physics engine and stuff like that), and I would orgasm. Melee is so much more deep than Brawl. Melee is a fighting game. Brawl is a party game.
I can't find the game. :(
Quote from: Dawei on March 17, 2008, 07:12:08 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
Oh, yeah. More unlockables instantly makes the game better. Thanks for pointing that out.
When it comes down to it, unlockables don't mean s***. So what if there are more unlockable stages? Most of them are crappy ones. The only thing that Brawl decently improves on is the characters. Put the characters in a melee play style (same physics engine and stuff like that), and I would orgasm. Melee is so much more deep than Brawl. Melee is a fighting game. Brawl is a party game.
unlocking things is fun, and fun is what video games are about. its annoying when people don't like Brawl because of little things like once or twice a match tripping, or specialtechs being gone. unless my wii breaks down i won't be playing melee for a while. there is just so much to do in brawl. i haven't gotten bored from it yet. And Brawl is a fighting game. I don't see how you could say otherwise. its has almost completely the same gameplay as melee.
Quote from: Java_Java on March 12, 2008, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: darklink140 on March 12, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
It is better than I expected, but there are a few things that could have been better. The fact that you can unlock mostly all characters on SSE is dissapointing. I wish that it could have been like the previous where you encounter them.
There's an easy remedy for that.
DON'T PLAY SSE.
What do you think I did? I held off on SSE until it said that I needed to get the characters from the SSE. I got my characters with the solo mode conditions, except [spoiler]R.O.B. (because I was one trophy away from 250, and I went to Brawl mode to get come coins easily, instead, I forgot that I was 9 brawls away from 160, I ended up challenging him. After 5 tries [that Mario Bros. stage pisses me off], I beat him)[/spoiler] and Snake [spoiler]Because you have to play Shadow Moses Island 15 times in Brawl mode.[/spoiler]
Quote from: tibar7 on March 17, 2008, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: Dawei on March 17, 2008, 07:12:08 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
Oh, yeah. More unlockables instantly makes the game better. Thanks for pointing that out.
When it comes down to it, unlockables don't mean s***. So what if there are more unlockable stages? Most of them are crappy ones. The only thing that Brawl decently improves on is the characters. Put the characters in a melee play style (same physics engine and stuff like that), and I would orgasm. Melee is so much more deep than Brawl. Melee is a fighting game. Brawl is a party game.
I'm a sheep.
and I once again fix your post.
Quote from: Jono2 on March 17, 2008, 07:06:31 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 17, 2008, 06:57:43 PM
Quote from: Dawei on March 17, 2008, 07:12:08 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 12, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Much, much worse than expected.
In all honesty, I like Melee more.
well, enjoy playing melee then. the fact that there's more to unlock in this game alone makes it better than melee. the only things i'm dissapointed with is the slight shortage of playables, the occasional triping, and the selection of characters/things for assist trophies. i'm pretty sure this game is as close to perfect the Wii will see (Nintendo will probably make their new console within the next ten years).
Oh, yeah. More unlockables instantly makes the game better. Thanks for pointing that out.
When it comes down to it, unlockables don't mean s***. So what if there are more unlockable stages? Most of them are crappy ones. The only thing that Brawl decently improves on is the characters. Put the characters in a melee play style (same physics engine and stuff like that), and I would orgasm. Melee is so much more deep than Brawl. Melee is a fighting game. Brawl is a party game.
I'm a sheep.
i'm a sheep.
stop fixing the posts or my thread will get locked.
Quote from: Lotos on March 17, 2008, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: Java_Java on March 12, 2008, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: darklink140 on March 12, 2008, 04:14:43 PM
It is better than I expected, but there are a few things that could have been better. The fact that you can unlock mostly all characters on SSE is dissapointing. I wish that it could have been like the previous where you encounter them.
There's an easy remedy for that.
DON'T PLAY SSE.
What do you think I did? I held off on SSE until it said that I needed to get the characters from the SSE. I got my characters with the solo mode conditions, except [spoiler]R.O.B. (because I was one trophy away from 250, and I went to Brawl mode to get come coins easily, instead, I forgot that I was 9 brawls away from 160, I ended up challenging him. After 5 tries [that Mario Bros. stage pisses me off], I beat him)[/spoiler] and Snake [spoiler]Because you have to play Shadow Moses Island 15 times in Brawl mode.[/spoiler]
I held off on playing SSE too and the only character that I used to get SSE was [spoiler]R.O.B. and obviously Toon Link, Jiggs, and Wolf.[/spoiler]
Worse than I expected.
I expected SSE to be much longer and cooler, and include all the characters in a storyline.
[spoiler]But Sonic (Who was only in the end), Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf, [/spoiler] had no story line, and had no meeting with any other character, it just showed a little movie, then you fought him (excluding Sonic in that last part)
And Classic mode is always the same cycle, from Zelda seires to DK/Yoshi series, to blah, I like it random, and no Race to the finish, not having that is HORRIBLE.
Then comes Target smash, there's only 5 different ones, what's up with that? I liked it better when each character had their own.
Though the game is better than melee, I was expecting more.
Personally, I loved the repetition of SSE. The scenes were fun and it was a neat mode to play. It's not the main game though so it shouldn't be treated like it was supposed to be super-amazing. A lot of it reminded me of Kirby Superstar for SNES. ^_^
The Great Maze at the end was pretty cool too. I wound up getting everything but one item on my first play-through of that entire area (must've been a single CD or some trophy somewhere I rushed by).
Some things I miss... Saffron City and Board the Platforms! This game completely lacks original SSB goodness.. save the bumper item. The bonuses were something I loved in Melee at the end of matches... and now without that... Classic is what feels old to me. New life needs to be breathed into that and getting rid of the bonuses was a big let-down for me. That mode actually took a step back in the wrong direction.. whereas I really enjoyed it back in Melee and the original.
Also, the game-play is pretty different for all 3 games and also, unrelated, I must say... I don't like how SSE unlocks a billion things just like that. The solution is not skipping it 'cause I wanna be able to enjoy that mode from the get-go without everything "hidden" falling right into my lap.
I would've liked to have had a few less original levels and included a few more levels that related to the different franchises which was something I liked about Melee's adventure mode. You had those special levels that were clearly Mario-based or Zelda-based... not enough of that in Brawl. A lot of it was just really generic locations. The music was nostalgic but the places didn't match really..
the only things i dont like are:
the use of c stick in single mode
shorter target test
co-op everything
longer classic mode
i love the character choice and sse
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and poop holes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
thats crazy i can pwn my friends in it! are you saying that you can only have so much skill? if so your crazy
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
...haven't played it yet. :'(
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heh, does it matter? It's a great game! And to all those people complaining, remember that Brawl is still new, you never know what people will come up with in this game.
Quote from: JNeedForSpeed2014 on March 18, 2008, 09:22:52 AM
...haven't played it yet. :'(
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thats so sad :(
Brawl is my favorite game of all. The only complaints I have are the tripping and the really annoying A moves. Characters like Meta Knight, Pit, [spoiler]Falco[/spoiler] and a few others all have it. And what's stupid about it is that you just have to hold the button down to do it instead of pressing constantly. I am addicted to this game to an extent that I must play 7 hours atleast everyday. On weekends, it's even more. I give it 10/10. Best ever.
the others are right. you just don't get it dawei. you loved wavedashing right. and other special techs. you're probably saying the skill factor is gone because special techs from melee are gone. there are still new special techs in brawl to be discovered. and unlocking things in this game is easy. you just have to play vs. matches and you're all set. you're exagerating the very few downs of this game and insulting it. it's a good thing most people don't agree with you. otherwise the game wouldn't do well.
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
well said
i like the intensity of melee better but at least my friends can learn brawl quicker for me to beat them
the reason why brawl doesn't seem as intense as melee right now is because we're not yet as goood at brawl as we are at melee. even though it has virtually the same gameplay, its a different game and a different feel. for those of you that miss the intesity just give the game more time.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
the reason why brawl doesn't seem as intense as melee right now is because we're not yet as goood at brawl as we are at melee. even though it has virtually the same gameplay, its a different game and a different feel. for those of you that miss the intesity just give the game more time.
dont get me wrong i love brawl
but the use of the c stick in single player is a little elementary
Quote from: Apollo on March 18, 2008, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
the reason why brawl doesn't seem as intense as melee right now is because we're not yet as goood at brawl as we are at melee. even though it has virtually the same gameplay, its a different game and a different feel. for those of you that miss the intesity just give the game more time.
dont get me wrong i love brawl
but the use of the c stick in single player is a little elementary
did you know that a lot of the pros use the C stick in melee. it's just a quick way of using a quick smash. comes in handy once in a while. when i first started playing melee i spammed the C stick smashs but i have it 50/50 with the original way now.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:44:12 PM
Quote from: Apollo on March 18, 2008, 01:33:23 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:29:46 PM
the reason why brawl doesn't seem as intense as melee right now is because we're not yet as goood at brawl as we are at melee. even though it has virtually the same gameplay, its a different game and a different feel. for those of you that miss the intesity just give the game more time.
dont get me wrong i love brawl
but the use of the c stick in single player is a little elementary
did you know that a lot of the pros use the C stick in melee. it's just a quick way of using a quick smash. comes in handy once in a while. when i first started playing melee i spammed the C stick smashs but i have it 50/50 with the original way now.
oh yeah i use c stick in brawls too but in single player i like to depend on some sort of skill
its just kinda cheap i must admit
unless you're extremely talented you have to be cheap when you face really tough computers.
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Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 18, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
unless you're extremely talented you have to be cheap when you face really tough computers.
its not that hard... but it is easy to be cheap
Melee was much more intense.
But as a whole, it was just right.
Ill miss Melee's pace, but Brawl still has that new level of play that appeals to me.
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Ultrasuperstarenator on March 18, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
how is brawl simpler than melee. it seems to me that there's more variables in battle now. there's smash balls, assist trophies, plus stage effects.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Ultrasuperstarenator on March 18, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
how is brawl simpler than melee. it seems to me that there's more variables in battle now. there's smash balls, assist trophies, plus stage effects.
it's much harder to abuse physics with the new engine, taking out alot of depth, meaning it's simpler.
Quote from: Jono2 on March 19, 2008, 05:38:36 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Ultrasuperstarenator on March 18, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
how is brawl simpler than melee. it seems to me that there's more variables in battle now. there's smash balls, assist trophies, plus stage effects.
it's much harder to abuse physics with the new engine, taking out alot of depth, meaning it's simpler.
i still don't understand how brawl is simpler than melee. the game play is the same except for the triping. some of the veterans from melee are faster/slower on ground/in air now but that's it. we started off being good at the game cause we have experience from melee. that's why it feels easier. if we were using the wii-mote and stuff it would of felt like when we began to play melee. most people are using the gamecube controls which means most people don't have to get used to the controls, since they're the same controls that they used in melee. the only thing that's changed about the physics is that there's more ability in the air, and more characters can wall-jump.
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on March 19, 2008, 05:38:36 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Ultrasuperstarenator on March 18, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
how is brawl simpler than melee. it seems to me that there's more variables in battle now. there's smash balls, assist trophies, plus stage effects.
it's much harder to abuse physics with the new engine, taking out alot of depth, meaning it's simpler.
i still don't understand how brawl is simpler than melee. the game play is the same except for the triping. some of the veterans from melee are faster/slower on ground/in air now but that's it. we started off being good at the game cause we have experience from melee. that's why it feels easier. if we were using the wii-mote and stuff it would of felt like when we began to play melee. most people are using the gamecube controls which means most people don't have to get used to the controls, since they're the same controls that they used in melee. the only thing that's changed about the physics is that there's more ability in the air, and more characters can wall-jump.
huh? when i started off brawl, I could barely beat a level 3, and i had been playing melee up until the last day before I got the game.
The physics engine has been changed to make it much simpler. look and feel how floaty characters are now. The style of play now is completely different.
I don't like how it got simpler, especially the wall-jumping aspect. Yeah, it's nice to be able to wall jump when i want to, but i end up walljumping alot of times when I don't want to.
Quote from: Jono2 on March 19, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on March 19, 2008, 05:38:36 AM
Quote from: tibar7 on March 19, 2008, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 02:48:01 PM
Quote from: Ultrasuperstarenator on March 18, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Dawei on March 18, 2008, 08:20:31 AM
And even though Jono completely summed it up, I'll respond too;
You must not have noticed that Brawl is not an "unlocking game" (if there even is something like that.) It's a game to play with your friends and arseholes like that. The fact that you have to unlock so many things in a game like Brawl is almost Anti-fun. Brawl isn't a one player game. It's 2-4 players. Is it fun when you want to play with your friends and someone wants to use some random kickass character, but you have to do 10k vs matches or beat all star on intense without taking any damage? You say that is fun, because it is unlocking something?
And like I said, Brawl is a party game. Melee is a fighting game. Why? Because Brawl is so much simpler. So much slower paced. Everyone can do good at it. There are very few things separating great players and average player. Melee was as deep as some fatass guys stomach (man, I love comparing things to fat people). Brawl is so much more of a party game than melee.
That point's completly stupid. Brawl IS a fighting game. MARIO PARTY is a party game.
And who really cares? I still win with inexpecanced people. There is still skill involved. Sobasicly, so you can't kill newcomers as easily, it's not as good as Melee?
It's not as deep as Melee. Brawl is much simpler than Melee.
Even so, you guys have gone off the point. This is not a "Is Brawl better or worse than you expected in the long run" topic. This is here and now, your opinion on Brawl. So any "more techs will be discovered" points are completely useless. As of now, Brawl fails my expectations greatly because Sakurai had to change what was already good.
how is brawl simpler than melee. it seems to me that there's more variables in battle now. there's smash balls, assist trophies, plus stage effects.
it's much harder to abuse physics with the new engine, taking out alot of depth, meaning it's simpler.
i still don't understand how brawl is simpler than melee. the game play is the same except for the triping. some of the veterans from melee are faster/slower on ground/in air now but that's it. we started off being good at the game cause we have experience from melee. that's why it feels easier. if we were using the wii-mote and stuff it would of felt like when we began to play melee. most people are using the gamecube controls which means most people don't have to get used to the controls, since they're the same controls that they used in melee. the only thing that's changed about the physics is that there's more ability in the air, and more characters can wall-jump.
huh? when i started off brawl, I could barely beat a level 3, and i had been playing melee up until the last day before I got the game.
The physics engine has been changed to make it much simpler. look and feel how floaty characters are now. The style of play now is completely different.
I don't like how it got simpler, especially the wall-jumping aspect. Yeah, it's nice to be able to wall jump when i want to, but i end up walljumping alot of times when I don't want to.
characters are't floaty, unless you're referring to the ones that can fly or Peach. some haracters are just slower moving through the air. for instance, falco's speed in the air is slower now some characters also are slower on ground, but they had to make it that way because sonic was supposed to be way faster than them. if you ask me, the air speed of the characters is a little more realistic now, which isn't a bad thing.
BTW, the walljumping when you don't want to habit, is a result of lack of skill. it's not the game's fault.