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Oh, how the mighty have fallen. The blue blur's been spiraling downward for so long, it's getting hard to believe that Sonic once legitimately challenged Mario to the mascot throne. Singling out just one of his post-Genesis flops isn't easy (Sonic Riders? Sonic Shuffle?), but we're going with the most recent foray on the 360 and PS3 because we actually had high hopes going in. A bad camera, glitchy visuals and insufferably bland gameplay shattered those pretty quickly, slamming yet another nail into this platforming pariah's coffin.
Thoughts anyone?
Well, they are currently working on Sonic Unleashed, a 2.5D game similar to the old-school Sonic games and the Sonic games on DS and PSP, and it will be made for Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, and Wii. It is said to bring Sonic back to his old roots (like what Sonic Advance and Sonic Rush did). It looks good so far, but I sure hope they don't rush it like they did with Sonic '06.
Even though I love Sonic, I think they should maybe give him a break, and focus on remaking/making sequels to some old Sega games for a while.
The more recent Sonic games suck. As long as Sonic Unleashed keeps the promise to bring back old school gameplay...nope, the series will still suck, just slightly less so.
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Snake :)
Quote from: Triforceman22 on May 13, 2008, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Snake :)
That would be a hard rivalry...
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Maybe Ratchet from Ratchet & Clank.
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
err..Wario?
Snake. Played mgs and their great. They had ne for gamecube and gba so theirs a good chance nintendo gets another metal gear
Well, i'ts not like Sonic is on the verge of death like SOME franchises are (looking at YOU Crash Bandicoot). But if SEGA somehow intercourse s up Sonic Unleashed they're best served selling the franchise to Nintendo. Dreamcast/EarlyCube/PS2 era I could give them a pass since htey were still figiuring things out but at this point they haven't a clue on what to do
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Quote from: Nayrman on June 11, 2008, 01:35:06 PM
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Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Banjo-Kazooie. Although that might change soon with the new "vehicle" stuff in Banjo-Threeie.
Quote from: Triforce_Luigi on June 11, 2008, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 11, 2008, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Banjo-Kazooie. Although that might change soon with the new "vehicle" stuff in Banjo-Threeie.
No....for three main reasons:
1. Microsoft/Rare can't make games worth a crap anymore
2. Banjo was never in direct competition since they were previously Nintnedo
3. Rachet and Clank is actually good. Better than anything Rare could ever come up with.
Quote from: Nayrman on June 11, 2008, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Hmm, I think Sonic's games are WAY too different than Mario's.
ya sonic is getting way popular now that he joined brawl:)
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 11, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 11, 2008, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Hmm, I think Sonic's games are WAY too different than Mario's.
That wasn't his point.
The point is that both Mario and Sonic had games that were platformers and appealed to the same group of people, so they were rivals. Master Chief cannot be a rival to Mario as MC is in a FPS and Mario is still in a platformer, and while Mario appeals to almost everyone, mostly kids, teens, and young adults, Halo appears more to teens and adults.
Quote from: Java_Java on June 12, 2008, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 11, 2008, 06:17:49 PM
Quote from: Nayrman on June 11, 2008, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Hmm, I think Sonic's games are WAY too different than Mario's.
That wasn't his point.
The point is that both Mario and Sonic had games that were platformers and appealed to the same group of people, so they were rivals. Master Chief cannot be a rival to Mario as MC is in a FPS and Mario is still in a platformer, and while Mario appeals to almost everyone, mostly kids, teens, and young adults, Halo appears more to teens and adults.
I mean character wise, Mario, Pacman, Sonic, and Master Cheif are now the most recognizable icons in gaming (added to the "hall of game" exibit in a muesium i cant remember the name of at the moment). The Halo games did what was previously thought to be impossible after Mario, become freakishly popular even on the first game!
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Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Hmm, I think Sonic's games are WAY too different than Mario's.
That wasn't his point.
The point is that both Mario and Sonic had games that were platformers and appealed to the same group of people, so they were rivals. Master Chief cannot be a rival to Mario as MC is in a FPS and Mario is still in a platformer, and while Mario appeals to almost everyone, mostly kids, teens, and young adults, Halo appears more to teens and adults.
I mean character wise, Mario, Pacman, Sonic, and Master Cheif are now the most recognizable icons in gaming (added to the "hall of game" exibit in a muesium i cant remember the name of at the moment). The Halo games did what was previously thought to be impossible after Mario, become freakishly popular even on the first game!
...Wait, why did you added Pac-Man? :D
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 12, 2008, 11:29:46 PM
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Quote from: thunderhero4 on June 11, 2008, 01:11:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
This ones obvious, its Master Cheif. He's getting unbelievably popular, and he's for a competing system. he's pretty much Microsoft's Mascot by now.
Cheif can't be Mario's rival since htey're completely different genres. That'd be like saying Pokemon is Snake's rival...they're completely different. It has to be hte same dmeographic or genre to be "rivals" like how Mario and Sonic were. Same market, same type of game. I'd have to say the closest one is Rachet series.
Hmm, I think Sonic's games are WAY too different than Mario's.
That wasn't his point.
The point is that both Mario and Sonic had games that were platformers and appealed to the same group of people, so they were rivals. Master Chief cannot be a rival to Mario as MC is in a FPS and Mario is still in a platformer, and while Mario appeals to almost everyone, mostly kids, teens, and young adults, Halo appears more to teens and adults.
I mean character wise, Mario, Pacman, Sonic, and Master Cheif are now the most recognizable icons in gaming (added to the "hall of game" exibit in a muesium i cant remember the name of at the moment). The Halo games did what was previously thought to be impossible after Mario, become freakishly popular even on the first game!
...Wait, why did you added Pac-Man? :D
Because they are the ones in the hall of game... :|
Pacman has been a video game character longer than all of those, and he still stars in alot of games today! He's the longest running video game character who is still in new games, and thats why
Guys, it's obvious: Mario's rival is Link. Link's way cooler and has better games, but that out-of-shape plumber just keeps getting in the way of Link's quest to become Nintendo's mascot. Thankfully, Kirby is there to help Link in his plots for Nintendo domination--he even arranged for Link to be the biggest character on the cover of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, which is made by Kirby's company, HAL. In addition to that, Kirby invited Sonic to Brawl in the hopes that the blue hedgehog would help take down his former rival.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on June 14, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
Guys, it's obvious: Mario's rival is Link. Link's way cooler and has better games, but that out-of-shape plumber just keeps getting in the way of Link's quest to become Nintendo's mascot. Thankfully, Kirby is there to help Link in his plots for Nintendo domination--he even arranged for Link to be the biggest character on the cover of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, which is made by Kirby's company, HAL. In addition to that, Kirby invited Sonic to Brawl in the hopes that the blue hedgehog would help take down his former rival.
*Facepalms* You're a complete...well, I'm afraid to said to you.
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on June 14, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
Guys, it's obvious: Mario's rival is Link. Link's way cooler and has better games, but that out-of-shape plumber just keeps getting in the way of Link's quest to become Nintendo's mascot. Thankfully, Kirby is there to help Link in his plots for Nintendo domination--he even arranged for Link to be the biggest character on the cover of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, which is made by Kirby's company, HAL. In addition to that, Kirby invited Sonic to Brawl in the hopes that the blue hedgehog would help take down his former rival.
Umm no... Mario is Nintendo's mascot because of what he did for the company, become the most well known and best selling game series in all the world. Plus Mario games reinvened video games several times! If not for Mario 64, Link's best game (Ocarina of Time) could never have been possible. I also would MUCh rather play a Mario game than Zelda. They bring me more joy and always put a huge smile on my face!
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 14, 2008, 09:39:19 PM
Quote from: Smash Bro 25 on June 14, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
Guys, it's obvious: Mario's rival is Link. Link's way cooler and has better games, but that out-of-shape plumber just keeps getting in the way of Link's quest to become Nintendo's mascot. Thankfully, Kirby is there to help Link in his plots for Nintendo domination--he even arranged for Link to be the biggest character on the cover of Super Smash Bros. Brawl, which is made by Kirby's company, HAL. In addition to that, Kirby invited Sonic to Brawl in the hopes that the blue hedgehog would help take down his former rival.
*Facepalms* You're a complete...well, I'm afraid to said to you.
No one can detect jokes or sarcasm anymore. :(
Quote from: artfox21 on June 15, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Pick 3.
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 16, 2008, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: artfox21 on June 15, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Pick 3.
1. Megaman: capcom(who knows)
2. Master chief: (halo) bungie(microsoft.)
3. Pappa the rappa.: she's was in the Psone.
Quote from: artfox21 on June 20, 2008, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 16, 2008, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: artfox21 on June 15, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Pick 3.
1. Megaman: capcom(who knows)
2. Master chief: (halo) bungie(microsoft.)
3. Pappa the rappa.: she's was in the Psone.
1. Dead.
2. ?
3. Who?
Quote from: artfox21 on June 20, 2008, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on June 16, 2008, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: artfox21 on June 15, 2008, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Pick 3.
1. Megaman: capcom(who knows)
2. Master chief: (halo) bungie(microsoft.)
3. Pappa the rappa.: she's was in the Psone.
1. Capcom likes Nintnedo...Megaman has been on Nintnedo since the NES...so he can't be Mario's Rival (unless they CONSISTANTLY do real megaman games...not htis "X" or "Battle" junk)
2. Different Genres, so no
3. No...just no...no where NEAR popular enough X_X;;
Parappa and Snake are Sony's mascots, more so Snake these days, even though Parappa is getting a PS3 game.
Quote from: Nayrman on June 21, 2008, 09:02:46 AM
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Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
There are many rivals in the basket to choose from.
Pick 3.
1. Megaman: capcom(who knows)
2. Master chief: (halo) bungie(microsoft.)
3. Pappa the rappa.: she's was in the Psone.
1. Capcom likes Nintnedo...Megaman has been on Nintnedo since the NES...so he can't be Mario's Rival (unless they CONSISTANTLY do real megaman games...not htis "X" or "Battle" junk)
2. Different Genres, so no
3. No...just no...no where NEAR popular enough X_X;;
You're right with Capcom and it's Megaman series not being a threat to Nintendo. 1-6 was on the NES, X1-X3 was on the SNES, Battle Network was on the GBA, the Zero series was on the GBA and, ZX is now on the DS. OS most of the franchise was with Nintendo.
Now on with Master Chief, He could be Mario's rival when not including gameplay. Like, Let's say when it comes to the systems they represent. He wouldn't be a rival with gamplay included because as you say, it's a completely different genre. Sonic and Mario were both platformers and they were HUGE rivals.
The last one is just any other game. It was on Nintendo's rival system (PS1 at the time) but, the game wasn't geared for rivalry between Mario. It's just a game on the PS1. Like you can have Forza Motor Sport which is on the Xbox right? Sure it's on Xbox which is Microsoft which is Nintendo's rival but, it's just a game for the system. I'm sure it wouldn't try to rival Mario Kart even if it's sorta the same genre.
link could be if he had more games.
kirby is the same.
so the only option left is sora or even mario himself
Does Mario even need a rival at all times?
If sonic "dies", then Mario won't have a rival.
Oh well.
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Link of course X_X Even tho he completly owns mario
And Magnum..you said link if he had mor games, so you said sora? Yet sora has had what like 2 games
Link has had around 7?
(http://www.sega-16.com/Features/Interviews/Mark%20Cerny/Sonic%20vs%20Mario.jpg) they will always be rivals
Quote from: Allegretto on July 01, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Link of course X_X Even tho he completly owns mario
And Magnum..you said link if he had mor games, so you said sora? Yet sora has had what like 2 games
Link has had around 7?
Get your Brawlogic out of here.
Mario's rival will be...well, Wario, inside his console.
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 01, 2008, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Allegretto on July 01, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Link of course X_X Even tho he completly owns mario
And Magnum..you said link if he had mor games, so you said sora? Yet sora has had what like 2 games
Link has had around 7?
Get your Brawlogic out of here.
Mario's rival will be...well, Wario, inside his console.
Man you are so full of poop I can smell you from here :P
Mario's rival will continue to be Sonic for quite some time. But if Sonic is gone, the only 2 contenders would be Link (for battle of who's game is beter) or Master chief (for battle of whos console is better)
Quote from: thunderhero4 on July 01, 2008, 10:35:46 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on July 01, 2008, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Allegretto on July 01, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: wiiboychris on May 13, 2008, 11:27:55 AM
If Sonic continues with this rate...which is going to be Mario's rival then? :O
Link of course X_X Even tho he completly owns mario
And Magnum..you said link if he had mor games, so you said sora? Yet sora has had what like 2 games
Link has had around 7?
Get your Brawlogic out of here.
Mario's rival will be...well, Wario, inside his console.
Man you are so full of s*** I can smell you from here :P
Mario's rival will continue to be Sonic for quite some time. But if Sonic is gone, the only 2 contenders would be Link (for battle of who's game is beter) or Master chief (for battle of whos console is better)
WARIO or Anise goes Final Fury on you!