Star: Please talk about the Inauguration of President elect Barack Obama in this thread.
We don't need tons on Power On!
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I now don't care who would of been the president, Just somebody needs to fix the Economy Now.
(my thought)
Jono: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quiet wigger.
Not yet. Its not even midnight, even if it was, the ceremony isn't until tomorrow.
Silly Canadian.
Quote from: Phaze on January 20, 2009, 12:45:05 AM
Not yet. Its not even midnight, even if it was, the ceremony isn't until tomorrow.
Silly Canadian.
lol, it's funny how long you guys have bought that I'm from canada xD
When he officially becomes president, I'll unlock your thread.
*If I remember*
:P
I just hope their won't be any snipers or anything like that....
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 01:15:56 AM
When he officially becomes president, I'll unlock your thread.
*If I remember*
:P
I just hope their won't be any snipers or anything like that....
He's officially president right now. >_>
Also, YAY NO MORE BUSH, GO OBAMA.
He messed up while taking the oath of office...
Biggest inauguration ever, though.
The TV coverage isn't ending until 3 CST. :-\
I just woke up... I Missed like over 95% of what Obama said.......
That sucks!
I'm sure I'll watch the full thing some where but still.
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 10:43:09 AM
He messed up while taking the oath of office...
Biggest inauguration ever, though.
The TV coverage isn't ending until 3 CST. :-\
Eh, he was probably a little nervous. I would be too.
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Welfare checks everywhere!
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Wait, Jeb Bush wants to run for president?
I would rather have Sara Palin than him. :-\
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Wait, Jeb Bush wants to run for president?
I would rather have Sara Palin than him. :-\
It's rumored.
And I'd rather have Jeb than Palin. NO ONE is worse than Palin. And at least Jeb went to college for more than a year at a time X_X:;
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Wait, Jeb Bush wants to run for president?
I would rather have Sara Palin than him. :-\
It's rumored.
And I'd rather have Jeb than Palin. NO ONE is worse than Palin. And at least Jeb went to college for more than a year at a time X_X:;
What happened to her book she was going to write?
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Wait, Jeb Bush wants to run for president?
I would rather have Sara Palin than him. :-\
It's rumored.
And I'd rather have Jeb than Palin. NO ONE is worse than Palin. And at least Jeb went to college for more than a year at a time X_X:;
What happened to her book she was going to write?
You think she's actually smart enough write past the first page?
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:58:34 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 11:39:50 AM
1. Lol, his first presidential gaff happens three minutes after 12 o'clock.
2. NO MORE BUSH YAY! Jeb better quit thinking about running for President. After George's failures no one from the Bush family will be president for quite a while.
3. Ugh, I hate Rick Warren (the pastor). Oh a country were we're all equal and it's so great huh? Then why did you completely support Prop 8 to take away the rights of gay citizens to marry? I hate hypocrites so much
4. Why did John Williams write a piece for the inaguration? Better yet why was Spielberg there? X_X;;
Wait, Jeb Bush wants to run for president?
I would rather have Sara Palin than him. :-\
It's rumored.
And I'd rather have Jeb than Palin. NO ONE is worse than Palin. And at least Jeb went to college for more than a year at a time X_X:;
What happened to her book she was going to write?
You think she's actually smart enough write past the first page?
I thought she would at least use a ghostwriter...
Still, I know it will be filled with quotes like "Me and John were such mavericky McMavericksons".
I doubt it'd have complete sentences if there wasn't a ghost writer.
The democrats better hope Palin runs in four years. If she does they'll have an easy win.
Nayr, you can be so brutally mean. :D
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 12:12:17 PM
Nayr, you can be so brutally mean. :D
What? I speak the truth. She's the dumbest person to ever be considered a near top spot in the history of this country.
She's barely fit to be a city council person let alone Vice-President. But whatever, let the Alaskans vote for someone only because she's an "attractive" (although I use that term loosley, IMO she's creepy as hell) woman for purely that reason X_X;;
Personally, I hated both candidates. These are the best people we can put out to run for office? America should be ashamed.
I think that for the past few elections, Americans have been dumbpoops. The way I see it, Obama is going to have a below average-mediocre Presidency, but the media is going to make it look like the best, and the majority of Americans who can't think for themselves are going to accept it and put him office again.
And Nayr, even if Palin runs, I doubt she'll make it to the actual campaign. If she does, I foresee her dropping out within a month.
Quote from: Red on January 20, 2009, 12:20:42 PM
And Nayr, even if Palin runs, I doubt she'll make it to the actual campaign. If she does, I foresee her dropping out within a month.
If Clinton couldn't make it- but then again, knowing my fellow Americans...
I was watching some of his speech...on ESPNews. :D
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 20, 2009, 02:14:26 PM
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
At least Obama got through college on his first try, and went to Harvard... so at least he's smarter than Palin.
But he has to actually do stuff first I agree.
intercourse Obama. I'm gonna shoit you. Sorry 'bout that. I agree with PY. He won't get my respect unless he does something GOOD.
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 20, 2009, 02:14:26 PM
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
I agree. All he's done is
promise to do things.
I HOPE he CHANGES things and will create more UNTITY....
hehehe see what I did there?
Quote from: Phaze on January 20, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 20, 2009, 02:14:26 PM
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
I agree. All he's done is promise to do things.
I agree, it's very easy to promise to change things
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 20, 2009, 02:14:26 PM
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
At least Obama got through college on his first try, and went to Harvard... so at least he's smarter than Palin.
But he has to actually do stuff first I agree.
Bush also went to Harvard for business school. The school you go to means absolutely nothing.
He was a C+ student, though...
Anyone see that comparison of Obama now and in 2012? It already looked like he was getting there today.
To defend Obama,
He or anybody else running for presidency would say/promise Anything to Win.
Just to get more votes, just to win........ because you made such a huge effort in all the
campaigning and stuff, I don't blame him.
But as everybody said, I hope he does it.
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Anyone see that comparison of Obama now and in 2012? It already looked like he was getting there today.
Do you have a link by any chance?
hey
you changed my title D:
I slept through the inauguration. I really don't care.
until Obama kills NAFTA.
at which point I will set up a plan to take him out. -_-
Quote from: Nayrman on January 20, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 12:12:17 PM
Nayr, you can be so brutally mean. :D
What? I speak the truth. She's the dumbest person to ever be considered a near top spot in the history of this country.
She's barely fit to be a city council person let alone Vice-President. But whatever, let the Alaskans vote for someone only because she's an "attractive" (although I use that term loosley, IMO she's creepy as hell) woman for purely that reason X_X;;
the hell?
Just because someone can't speak, doesn't make them as stupid as Dan Quayle.
At least she doesn't want to turn the USA into a state separated from the rest of the world and take away the civil liberties of it's people. (OBAMA)
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as intercourse though. XD
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 20, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as f*** though. XD
This is just not right...
Canadians get a whole assembly, yet American students are expected to work. >_>
Well at least I was able to see the swearing in.
Today should be a day off for us.
Quote from: Java_Java on January 20, 2009, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 20, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as f*** though. XD
This is just not right...
Canadians get a whole assembly, yet American students are expected to work. >_>
Well at least I was able to see the swearing in.
Today should be a day off for us.
Schools in the District of Columbia are all off.
I was sick today, so it didn't matter.
Just because he's president doesn't mean racism is gone. Racism will exist for a long time. It's just that how common racist views pop up around the U.S is so rare that it seems non-existant. I have a racist uncle. But, he doesn't openly advertise that, or do anything to blacks due to it. That's racism today.
Quote from: red7js on January 20, 2009, 04:31:04 PM
Just because he's president doesn't mean racism is gone. Racism will exist for a long time. It's just that how common racist views pop up around the U.S is so rare that it seems non-existant. I have a racist uncle. But, he doesn't openly advertise that, or do anything to blacks due to it. That's racism today.
lrn2sarcasm
Quote from: Jono2 on January 20, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
Quote from: red7js on January 20, 2009, 04:31:04 PM
Just because he's president doesn't mean racism is gone. Racism will exist for a long time. It's just that how common racist views pop up around the U.S is so rare that it seems non-existant. I have a racist uncle. But, he doesn't openly advertise that, or do anything to blacks due to it. That's racism today.
lrn2sarcasm
Oh, why didn't I realize that it was sarcasm?
Damnit
Benediction was hilarious.
"Let the red man get ahead man"
.... :D
For all you guys saying he hasn't earned your respect...
That's still more than you had for Bush. D:
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 03:44:39 PM
To defend Obama,
He or anybody else running for presidency would say/promise Anything to Win.
Just to get more votes, just to win........ because you made such a huge effort in all the
campaigning and stuff, I don't blame him.
But as everybody said, I hope he does it.
That is so true. "I will end world hunger!" Okay, maybe I went too far with that...
"I will make the country's economy get out of the crapper!"
Oh, I can't think of any actual quotes right now... just jokes.
Someone get me the hopenosis .gif
Quote from: Lotos on January 20, 2009, 06:25:33 PM
Someone get me the hopenosis .gif
http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=hopenosis.gif
Quote from: Lotos on January 20, 2009, 06:25:33 PM
Someone get me the hopenosis .gif
(http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p356/Phaze_album/bf5676fc.gif)
?
Lol, hope-nosis.
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on January 20, 2009, 11:08:35 AM
Quote from: Tupin on January 20, 2009, 10:43:09 AM
He messed up while taking the oath of office...
Biggest inauguration ever, though.
The TV coverage isn't ending until 3 CST. :-\
Eh, he was probably a little nervous. I would be too.
Actually, my parents told me that it was the guy swearing him in that said it the wrong way. That's why he changed what he said after Obama paused.
Quote from: Java_Java on January 20, 2009, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 20, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as f*** though. XD
This is just not right...
Canadians get a whole assembly, yet American students are expected to work. >_>
Well at least I was able to see the swearing in.
Today should be a day off for us.
Chill.
It was only 20 minutes out of my favourite class. >_>
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 20, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as intercourse though. XD
Especially during the speech.
Quote from: Lotos on January 20, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
Quote from: Triforceman22 on January 20, 2009, 04:03:29 PM
K.
We had an assembly today to see him become president.
video was laggy as intercourse though. XD
Especially during the speech.
Oh yeah.
He looked wierd, with the video pausing every 2 seconds.... :D
Quote from: Jono2 on January 20, 2009, 03:54:32 PM
at which point I will set up a plan to take him out. -_-
Why? It would make Mexico a hell of a lot happier with us.
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on January 21, 2009, 12:02:44 AM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 20, 2009, 03:54:32 PM
at which point I will set up a plan to take him out. -_-
Why? It would make Mexico a hell of a lot happier with us.
uhh, with canada?
NAFTA?
free trade?
it would kill canadian business.
now we all know he wouldn't be THAT stupid, and that he just used it as an election platform, but what if he did actually try to kill NAFTA?
ANY canadian business that produces products sells at least 80% of their product to the states. canadian business is struggling as a whole now, and that would basically be pulling the plug on us.
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
you're the first person to get it.
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
How does that prove racism is still around.
Racism will never leave.
FACT.
And, that proves it, because in order to tell a racist joke, you must be somewhat racist (you could be a very little bit racist, or maybe REALLY racist but you don't see it as that).
Quote from: JrDude on January 21, 2009, 05:36:34 PM
Racism will never leave.
FACT.
And, that proves it, because in order to tell a racist joke, you must be somewhat racist (you could be a very little bit racist, or maybe REALLY racist but you don't see it as that).
Racism is hating or disliking another race correct?
A joke usually isn't hateful.
Quote from: HTA on January 21, 2009, 05:39:09 PM
Racism is hating or disliking another race correct?
A joke usually isn't hateful.
Yes & no.
You don't need to hate a race to be racist.
Quote from: HTA on January 21, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
How does that prove racism is still around.
If we see people as equals, regardless of skin color, etc. then why is it historic that it's a Black President? It's interesting, because women, blacks, etc. want to be viewed as equals, but the first thing they do when getting power is to tell everyone....keeping the racism alive themselves.
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 21, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
How does that prove racism is still around.
If we see people as equals, regardless of skin color, etc. then why is it historic that it's a Black President? It's interesting, because women, blacks, etc. want to be viewed as equals, but the first thing they do when getting power is to tell everyone....keeping the racism alive themselves.
The interesting thing is that they're *usually* the only two doing so in terms of people who have had past discreminatory action. I rarely ever see Jews, Latinos, or Aisians calling for such recognition. Of course I don't speak for all but that seems to be the case.
Also, we have a black president, AND a record number of Jewish people in congress...the KKK members in the south must be poopting bricks XD
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 21, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
A few things:
-No wonder Obama is a chain smoker.
-I wish the man well, but I forsee him blowing relations with my Native land, simply for his reluctance to congratulate our PM, while McCain did it almost immediately.
-One of my teachers pulled me personally out of class to come watch the inauguration, because it was a big deal. However, it was reserved for kids he likes/have a clue.
-Even though it is sarcasm, I think the fact we're making a big deal out of a black man becoming president proves racism is alive and well. I didn't honestly identify by ethnicity until I went to public school.
How does that prove racism is still around.
If we see people as equals, regardless of skin color, etc. then why is it historic that it's a Black President? It's interesting, because women, blacks, etc. want to be viewed as equals, but the first thing they do when getting power is to tell everyone....keeping the racism alive themselves.
Racism or racially conscious?
Blacks have a long history, and they fought long and hard to win their freedom etc.
I say, we let them enjoy this, as they very well should. Just because we aren't 100% blind to color doesn't mean racism is thriving. You can't ask people, especially blacks, to just let go of the pride they have for their race and this achievement. You can't ask them, or any race for that matter, to just forget that race exists. It does exist, and it gives our world, and the US in general, a unique dimension. When black say that this is such a great thing, it doesn't sound like they are being racist. More like they are proud of how far they have come.
Racism to me is discrimination, of which we are doing a good job at stopping. One single color is boring.
"You can't ask people, especially blacks, to just let go of the pride they have for their race and this achievement"
I completely and fully disagree. Why should they have any more pride than anyone else? Because they overcame slavery that their own bretheren sold them for? Because of years of hardship in the US that members of every race face?
People want acceptance, but as long as we look at people by color, it won't ever happen. It just doesn't work that way. We can, though, learn that skin color is just something like eye color. As I said, up until public school, I never looked at anyone as "Asian" or "Black". There was no difference to me. It was Political Correctness that caused me to associate a difference.
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 06:18:04 PM
"You can't ask people, especially blacks, to just let go of the pride they have for their race and this achievement"
I completely and fully disagree. Why should they have any more pride than anyone else? Because they overcame slavery that their own bretheren sold them for? Because of years of hardship in the US that members of every race face?
People want acceptance, but as long as we look at people by color, it won't ever happen. It just doesn't work that way. We can, though, learn that skin color is just something like eye color. As I said, up until public school, I never looked at anyone as "Asian" or "Black". There was no difference to me. It was Political Correctness that caused me to associate a difference.
Who said they did have more pride than anyone else?
Everyone has a heritage, and should be proud of it. Just because theirs happens to dote on the fact that for the first time we have a black president doesn't mean their reactions are unnecessary.
This is whether we like it or not a momentous and historic event.
But here's my final question. Does our looking upon other races as different really count as racism? They have different background than we do, different heritages... We should see that and respect it, but not assert that everyone is the same. We aren't, and as long as no one is being discriminated against for that then why strive for something you know is impossible?
Racisim will never die.
Quote from: JrDude on January 21, 2009, 06:39:55 PM
Racisim will never die.
yes we've already established that.... geez
Quote from: HTA on January 21, 2009, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 06:18:04 PM
"You can't ask people, especially blacks, to just let go of the pride they have for their race and this achievement"
I completely and fully disagree. Why should they have any more pride than anyone else? Because they overcame slavery that their own bretheren sold them for? Because of years of hardship in the US that members of every race face?
People want acceptance, but as long as we look at people by color, it won't ever happen. It just doesn't work that way. We can, though, learn that skin color is just something like eye color. As I said, up until public school, I never looked at anyone as "Asian" or "Black". There was no difference to me. It was Political Correctness that caused me to associate a difference.
Who said they did have more pride than anyone else?
Everyone has a heritage, and should be proud of it. Just because theirs happens to dote on the fact that for the first time we have a black president doesn't mean their reactions are unnecessary.
This is whether we like it or not a momentous and historic event.
But here's my final question. Does our looking upon other races as different really count as racism? They have different background than we do, different heritages... We should see that and respect it, but not assert that everyone is the same. We aren't, and as long as no one is being discriminated against for that then why strive for something you know is impossible?
Actually, I feel their reactions are unnecessary. If you want to be looked on as an equal, you don't go make a big deal over things. My point, feminism. If you want to be on par with males in everything, then you need to be able to carry weight; take a hit, etc. Chivalry is dead with equality.
You can call it historic all you want. Canada had a female Prime Minister, the other group that does a lot of whining for equality, and we didn't hype it up half as much as you lot did. If they are equals, then it is NOT momentous. There is no reason for it to be momentous if we are equal. Know what would be momentous? Someone with a massive mental disability attaining office that isn't Bush. Equals have no right to talk of their hardships.
And in my thinking, no. However, as long as we look at people as different heritage and race based on skin color, racism will be well founded. You're being taught to think of something as different. What is one of the lovely perks of being different? Rarely are they equal. I'd love to one day have skin color be comparable to hair or eye color, but it won't happen. In fact, it's going in reverse. HAIR COLOR IS BEING DISCRIMINATED WITH YA GINGER. Y'see, we as humans are sick monsters, but we could remedy it all by teaching that there is no difference, not focusing on how a man with a different skin color took to lead the United States.
real femenists (Mina Loy) don't strive for equality. they strive to be something completely different.
read The Feminist Manifesto.
Quote from: Jono2 on January 21, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
real femenists (Mina Loy) don't strive for equality. they strive to be something completely different.
read The Feminist Manifesto.
I'm already close to insanity.
Quote from: mackormoses on January 21, 2009, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 21, 2009, 09:00:15 PM
real femenists (Mina Loy) don't strive for equality. they strive to be something completely different.
read The Feminist Manifesto.
I'm already close to insanity.
hehe, just looking at it gives you a headache.
The gist of it is:
A real feminist doesn't even use men as a comparison, as a ruler. A real feminist strives to become something completely different in their own right, without comparison to men.
oh, and also that women should be surgically deflowered at birth so that their virginity cannot be something used to gauge their worth.
Eh... I can hardly agree to that.
You can't teach people that color means nothing without destroying history. Slaves were black. Then, they strove for equality. They attained it, and it is a triumph for their color. That happened, and teaching that it didn't seems also like discrimination. The point of the past is to teach us discrimination by color is wrong. By either not teaching that these things happened, or trying to drown it out with the fact that "Color means nothing" your tainting the message.
And forgive this next little bit if it seems childish... but did you ever read a book called The Giver? There is no color, no discrimination, no freedom. All to create a perfectly equal and flawless world... People are actually bred to be color blind.
It was really quite bleak. Humans, monsters as we may be, keep life interesting by the differences between us. By teaching that these things don't exist, your almost sucking the life out of the world. As I said earlier... one color is boring.
And I won;t touch the feminist thing, I feel race and gender arguments are separate.
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Eh... I can hardly agree to that.
You can't teach people that color means nothing without destroying history. Slaves were black. Then, they strove for equality. They attained it, and it is a triumph for their color. That happened, and teaching that it didn't seems also like discrimination. The point of the past is to teach us discrimination by color is wrong. By either not teaching that these things happened, or trying to drown it out with the fact that "Color means nothing" your tainting the message.
And forgive this next little bit if it seems childish... but did you ever read a book called The Giver? There is no color, no discrimination, no freedom. All to create a perfectly equal and flawless world... People are actually bred to be color blind.
It was really quite bleak. Humans, monsters as we may be, keep life interesting by the differences between us. By teaching that these things don't exist, your almost sucking the life out of the world. As I said earlier... one color is boring.
And I won;t touch the feminist thing, I feel race and gender arguments are separate.
in The Giver, it WAS a perfect world for those who complied to it. The boy did not, as he stopped taking his medicine.
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Eh... I can hardly agree to that.
You can't teach people that color means nothing without destroying history. Slaves were black. Then, they strove for equality. They attained it, and it is a triumph for their color. That happened, and teaching that it didn't seems also like discrimination. The point of the past is to teach us discrimination by color is wrong. By either not teaching that these things happened, or trying to drown it out with the fact that "Color means nothing" your tainting the message.
And forgive this next little bit if it seems childish... but did you ever read a book called The Giver? There is no color, no discrimination, no freedom. All to create a perfectly equal and flawless world... People are actually bred to be color blind.
It was really quite bleak. Humans, monsters as we may be, keep life interesting by the differences between us. By teaching that these things don't exist, your almost sucking the life out of the world. As I said earlier... one color is boring.
And I won;t touch the feminist thing, I feel race and gender arguments are separate.
in The Giver, it WAS a perfect world for those who complied to it. The boy did not, as he stopped taking his medicine.
Actually, I think it was that he had some kind of defect that made him the next Giver.
At any rate... the boy realized that the world he was living in was devoid of any emotion.
It was a stagnant mess... from which he escaped.
For me, it always seemed the book was trying to say that perfection and unity aren't always good when the price could be disastrous.
Either way... think this has been going on long enough. D:
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Eh... I can hardly agree to that.
You can't teach people that color means nothing without destroying history. Slaves were black. Then, they strove for equality. They attained it, and it is a triumph for their color. That happened, and teaching that it didn't seems also like discrimination. The point of the past is to teach us discrimination by color is wrong. By either not teaching that these things happened, or trying to drown it out with the fact that "Color means nothing" your tainting the message.
And forgive this next little bit if it seems childish... but did you ever read a book called The Giver? There is no color, no discrimination, no freedom. All to create a perfectly equal and flawless world... People are actually bred to be color blind.
It was really quite bleak. Humans, monsters as we may be, keep life interesting by the differences between us. By teaching that these things don't exist, your almost sucking the life out of the world. As I said earlier... one color is boring.
And I won;t touch the feminist thing, I feel race and gender arguments are separate.
in The Giver, it WAS a perfect world for those who complied to it. The boy did not, as he stopped taking his medicine.
Actually, I think it was that he had some kind of defect that made him the next Giver.
At any rate... the boy realized that the world he was living in was devoid of any emotion.
It was a stagnant mess... from which he escaped.
For me, it always seemed the book was trying to say that perfection and unity aren't always good when the price could be disastrous.
Either way... think this has been going on long enough. D:
I read The Giver this year, I believe it was his blue eyes that made him next in line.
He escaped after learning about the past, because he believed the community needed the information he learned more than him.
Quote from: Tupin on January 22, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 08:23:36 PM
Quote from: Jono2 on January 22, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: HTA on January 22, 2009, 02:53:39 PM
Eh... I can hardly agree to that.
You can't teach people that color means nothing without destroying history. Slaves were black. Then, they strove for equality. They attained it, and it is a triumph for their color. That happened, and teaching that it didn't seems also like discrimination. The point of the past is to teach us discrimination by color is wrong. By either not teaching that these things happened, or trying to drown it out with the fact that "Color means nothing" your tainting the message.
And forgive this next little bit if it seems childish... but did you ever read a book called The Giver? There is no color, no discrimination, no freedom. All to create a perfectly equal and flawless world... People are actually bred to be color blind.
It was really quite bleak. Humans, monsters as we may be, keep life interesting by the differences between us. By teaching that these things don't exist, your almost sucking the life out of the world. As I said earlier... one color is boring.
And I won;t touch the feminist thing, I feel race and gender arguments are separate.
in The Giver, it WAS a perfect world for those who complied to it. The boy did not, as he stopped taking his medicine.
Actually, I think it was that he had some kind of defect that made him the next Giver.
At any rate... the boy realized that the world he was living in was devoid of any emotion.
It was a stagnant mess... from which he escaped.
For me, it always seemed the book was trying to say that perfection and unity aren't always good when the price could be disastrous.
Either way... think this has been going on long enough. D:
I read The Giver this year, I believe it was his blue eyes that made him next in line.
He escaped after learning about the past, because he believed the community needed the information he learned more than him.
what I was trying to say was, that when people took their medicine, the world WAS perfect for them. once they stopped taking the drugs, they saw it for how it really was. It WAS a utopia, but it required set preconditions. Their past was harmful to them, and as a result, it was kept hidden.
There's no reason to want more if you think that you have is perfect.
Not exactly perfect...
Remember people were killed off for going against the grain? At least that's what I think happened, I know people were killed for some reason...
Anyway... time for school. D:
Quote from: Phaze on January 20, 2009, 02:50:14 PM
Quote from: PsychoYoshi on January 20, 2009, 02:14:26 PM
Good luck to the man.
He's going to need it with the economy the way it is, and half the world ready to trounce on our current weakened state. And until proven otherwise, he's earned none of my respect and is just as much of a pretty face as Palin was/is.
I agree. All he's done is promise to do things.
What else could he do?
I know it's late, but YAY! OBAMA IS PRESEDENT! W00t!
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 03:44:39 PM
To defend Obama,
He or anybody else running for presidency would say/promise Anything to Win.
Just to get more votes, just to win........ because you made such a huge effort in all the
campaigning and stuff, I don't blame him.
But as everybody said, I hope he does it.
Exactly. FDR promised to give the people back thier beer. :D
Quote from: Shujinco on January 24, 2009, 10:45:20 PM
I know it's late, but YAY! OBAMA IS PRESEDENT! W00t!
Quote from: StarWindWizard7 on January 20, 2009, 03:44:39 PM
To defend Obama,
He or anybody else running for presidency would say/promise Anything to Win.
Just to get more votes, just to win........ because you made such a huge effort in all the
campaigning and stuff, I don't blame him.
But as everybody said, I hope he does it.
Exactly. FDR promised to give the people back thier beer. :D
...which he did.