I was doing some research on Nostradamus for English a week ago, and I came across a video on the History Channel site. It was about 2012. So here are a few little things interesting about this date.
December 21, 2012 has showed up in a few cultures around the world, in Egypt, China, and the well known random ending of the Mayan calendar.
In Egypt, one of the Temples has like an engraving in the sealing of exactly what the sky will look like on the winter solstice of 2012. It points out where all 13 of the zodiac signs are in the sky that day. Apparently there was originally 13 signs, not 12 and the Egyptians decided that 12/21/12 was a special occasion that the 13th sign comes back.
In China the "I Ching" I believe it's called has also predicted 2012. This book is most commonly used for people to tell their own fortune. But, some guy(it's been a while I don't quite remember his name) went and graphed the symbols in such a way it made a graph of our timeline from past to future. The more interesting thing about this graph is the it drops down to rock bottom on the winter solstice of 2012.
[spoiler=I Ching graph](http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/tw0.jpg)[/spoiler]
The most commonly known thing used for the prediction is the Mayan's calender. I'm fairly certain you all know the great, seemingly perfect, calender the Mayan's have. But they also, had chose to end at December 21, 2012.(Those who say "They just ran out of rock" well, I'm sure people are that stupid, it probably seemed like a random thing for them to do, otherwise it probably wouldn't have been made such a big deal.)
Another, more recent prediction on 2012 is called the "Web-bot" http://aphroditeastrology.com/2007/05/web-bot-project-and-2012.html
This also had come up with a dramatic "something" on 2012. But I personally think it could just be picking up all the talk of 2012 and it's just some extra "noise" of it's made purpose. But if this thing is really good at what it does, then according to this video on the History site, "We should have something like a minor nuclear war around 2008-2009 times."
We'll see about that soon I guess...
And a little something else, There is a dark rift, in our perspective of our galaxy which, more recently, a very large black hole was discovered that inhabits this dark rift in the galaxy. And scientists say that around the 2012 time, our very planet is going to get in a direct line from that rift and black hole, through the sun, to us.
And NASA was also brought up in the video. They had come up with a theory on what could happen on that day, which I believe is explained here - http://formerthings.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/nasa-claims-earth-pole-shift-2012-isaiah-24/
It basically is that our Earth, has in the past, and will do it again, shift it's poles around. And NASA believes it's possible that the Earths mantle will start to rotate, causing the poles to shift. This theory is also able to explain all the earth quakes and tsunamis that are called for by all the profits/oracles. They all seem to claim that earth quakes will shake all around the world, giant waves will flood the earth, and all that jazz.
Now, the logical part of my brain says most of this is non-sense. But I'm not going to lie, I'm quite fascinated by an apocalyptic day. I'm not too sure why, probably because it would be exciting. I also don't think I'm the only one fascinated by that kind of stuff.
So, talk about 2012, an apocalyptic day/doomsday, Judgment day from the bible(including the other "end of the word" theories from other cultures, I only know the name of the Christian one). I had gotten quite bored and that's why I posted. I'm going to stop typing now because if you actually read all that you probably are tired of reading. Post away....
Yeah, it's probably not going to happen, but it's interesting to think about.
Anyone ever watched Life After People on the History Channel? Very interesting documentary on what will happen after we're all gone.
Quote from: Tupin on April 24, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Yeah, it's probably not going to happen, but it's interesting to think about.
Anyone ever watched Life After People on the History Channel? Very interesting documentary on what will happen after we're all gone.
Yeah, I watched that too, I hate History class, but the History Channel seems to have some interesting stuff on it.
Quote from: Tupin on April 24, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
Yeah, it's probably not going to happen, but it's interesting to think about.
Anyone ever watched Life After People on the History Channel? Very interesting documentary on what will happen after we're all gone.
On the weather channel I saw a commercial about that. Was going to watch it, but I think I needed to do something.
Anyway, I don't really think anything is going to happen in 2012.
Plus, that's the year I graduate. All of my schooling would be pointless. D:
I don't believe it, those Bible quotes may be real, but they're probably either metaphors or meaning something else.
And if those skull things really talk, why is there no video of any talking? (If there is, please send a link)
Even though I don't believe it, it is very interesting to read about, and I hate reading long things.
lets compare how many cultures has something about 2012 vs. how many don't
Quote from: Tarantulas on April 24, 2009, 07:38:44 PM
lets compare how many cultures has something about 2012 vs. how many don't
let's compare how many cultures that believe that there's a god vs. how many that don't
I fail to see your point. Nothing is going to happen on 2012. Unless, of course, you want to have some fun with it.
[silly]You see, either Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton will be elected in 2012, rather than Obama having a second term. By December of 2012, tensions with the middle-eastern countries will have grown so much, that on December 1st, 2012, the president will sign an act of war against one of the "-an" countries.
16 days later, on December 17st, 2012, it will be decided that a nuclear missile will be fired at whichever country we may be with war at on the 21st. When it arrives, the explosion will be so big, that we will go into a permanent nuclear winter, and everyone will intercourse ing die.[/silly]
Came up with that on the spot, ninny.
Quote from: Kilroy the Scoot on April 24, 2009, 07:44:03 PM
Quote from: Tarantulas on April 24, 2009, 07:38:44 PM
lets compare how many cultures has something about 2012 vs. how many don't
let's compare how many cultures that believe that there's a god vs. how many that don't
I fail to see your point. Nothing is going to happen on 2012. Unless, of course, you want to have some fun with it.
[silly]You see, either Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton will be elected in 2012, rather than Obama having a second term. By December of 2012, tensions with the middle-eastern countries will have grown so much, that on December 1st, 2012, the president will sign an act of war against one of the "-an" countries.
16 days later, on December 17st, 2012, it will be decided that a nuclear missile will be fired at whichever country we may be with war at on the 21st. When it arrives, the explosion will be so big, that we will go into a permanent nuclear winter, and everyone will intercourse ing die.[/silly]
Came up with that on the spot, ninny.
I'm saying only what, a small percent of cultures have something about 2012 out of thousands , didn't think I'd have to spell it out
It's interesting to think about, sure. But I try not to think about an apocalypse or whatever, really, why would anyone? Whatever happens happens, you wouldn't be able to stop it.
I just "go with the flow" :P
Well, first of all... I believe that ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
On that note... I don't think anything major is going to happen. IT COULD, but I don't think it will.
It is incredibly odd though that so many people got to that exact same year. All of which end on a bad note.
Let's compare how credible you sound saying things like "one of the Temples has like an engraving" and "there was originally 13 signs" against how credible you would sound without them.
Quote from: Tarantulas on April 24, 2009, 07:38:44 PM
lets compare how many cultures has something about 2012 vs. how many don't
You're very correct in that point, but also how many cultures are decently educated vs. the ones that aren't?(I worded that stupidly =/)
I actually have watched TONS of these things on the History channel(only thing I watch).
I really don't care if life ends. Kinda cool to think about and it's really annoying not knowing what comes next so you could say I kinda look forward to it. But at the same time this doesn't seem very possible. There are many ways for the world to end and the biggest threat I see is an Asteroid as we don't know where, I believe, 60-80% of them are.
But with all our satellites and camera's in space we could destroy it and probably get a meteor shower. While this is deadly in itself it still won't kill all life.
Another theory I have heard is that the polar ice caps are going to melt. Mayan, Egyptian, and everything else couldn't foresee cars. They don't have future-sight. So that one is gone.
@China.
WHAT!
So now people can read "time waves". That is the worst of them all.
@Black Hole.
...that sucks.
But until I see December as a direct time I don't see how it could have been foretold and how everyone somehow knew when a Black Hole was going to pop up.
@Earthquakes.
That one seems possible. The worst part would be the breaking of the Food Chain probably. End life right there.
Well that was a long rant.
[spoiler]THE END IS COMMING!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!! :O[/spoiler]
I blame LHC.
"I Ching" sounds like some Asain man trying to tell people his name
2012 is BS by the way
Quote from: VaatixGanon on April 24, 2009, 07:53:19 PM
Let's compare how credible you sound saying things like "one of the Temples has like an engraving" and "there was originally 13 signs" against how credible you would sound without them.
Since when did you post above me? And so what, my communication skills suck.
Lol.
Dark rift.
We know with some amount of certainty that the center of our galaxy is a black hole...
But besides right now I have heard no news about getting sucked into a "dark rift". D:
If the event horizon of this black hole was large enough that we will be sucked into it in a few years we would have heard much more about it by now, it would be a big motherintercourse ing black hole.
We might have even started to notice the disappearance of starlight, unless there are other object in the way.
No, nothing will happen on 2012, scientific or mystical.
I'm more worried about Obama screwing the Constitution.
Quote from: {CeF}Lichig0 on April 25, 2009, 02:30:56 PM
Quote from: VaatixGanon on April 24, 2009, 07:53:19 PM
Let's compare how credible you sound saying things like "one of the Temples has like an engraving" and "there was originally 13 signs" against how credible you would sound without them.
Since when did you post above me? And so what, my communication skills suck.
You sound like a moron, especially around the part where you said sealing instead of ceiling.
Quote from: Sinbad on April 25, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
Lol.
Dark rift.
We know with some amount of certainty that the center of our galaxy is a black hole...
But besides right now I have heard no news about getting sucked into a "dark rift". D:
If the event horizon of this black hole was large enough that we will be sucked into it in a few years we would have heard much more about it by now, it would be a big motherintercourse ing black hole.
We might have even started to notice the disappearance of starlight, unless there are other object in the way.
No, nothing will happen on 2012, scientific or mystical.
I'm more worried about Obama screwing the Constitution.
Well yeah, the black hole is too far away. And you don't really see disappearance of starlight because from our point of view, there are no stars in the area. That's why there seems to be a rift in the galaxy. And black holes can do much more than suck you up to kill you or whatever it does.
Something else that I failed to point out.
If something actually happened(for whatever reason I hope there is something) on 2012, it may not be the end of the world and all life, just something that'll change how we live forever. Like supposed the poles did move, and they tipped sideways, after the destruction from the shift, we would probably have to change how we live since day and night would be a year long.
The magnetic poles would shift, meaning all compasses would be wrong and electronics wouldn't work properly.
I doubt that we would be thrown off of our orbit, and its unlikely that the rotational motion of the planet + its axis would be messed with sine what we do on the surface has little to no effect on a system without outside friction.
Black holes aren't mystical rifts with unknown powers.
If what we know is true, then lining up with a black hole does nothing. :|
They may have huge gravitational pull but their are absolute limits, and if we aren't in the gravitational pull by now I doubt 3 more years are going to do it.
Plus, our magnetic poles have switched before, they have found evidence of this in rock layers with opposing grains. (to the best of my knowledge, don;t take my word on it)
Quote from: Sinbad on April 25, 2009, 03:10:06 PM
The magnetic poles would shift, meaning all compasses would be wrong and electronics wouldn't work properly.
I doubt that we would be thrown off of our orbit, and its unlikely that the rotational motion of the planet + its axis would be messed with sine what we do on the surface has little to no effect on a system without outside friction.
Black holes aren't mystical rifts with unknown powers.
If what we know is true, then lining up with a black hole does nothing. :|
They may have huge gravitational pull but their are absolute limits, and if we aren't in the gravitational pull by now I doubt 3 more years are going to do it.
Plus, our magnetic poles have switched before, they have found evidence of this in rock layers with opposing grains. (to the best of my knowledge, don;t take my word on it)
I never said anything about being thrown off orbit....and black holes do more than just suck things, they can "regurgitate" or "burp" which is very deadly and there are plenty of black holes in "shooting" distance of us....
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
A black hole somehow getting in line with the Earth and Sun will have no effect if we aren't in the event horizon...
Physics anyone?
Quote from: Sinbad on April 26, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
what about Hawking radiation?
Quote from: Tom Servo on April 26, 2009, 07:29:02 AM
Quote from: Sinbad on April 26, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
what about Hawking radiation?
Yes, what about Hawking Radiation? :-\
A pair of photons split at the event horizon of a black hole.
One goes in, one stays out.
Whether this is true or not, it will be a catastrophic day due to the fact that a lot of people do believe it and they will panic and some will probably do many things 'cause they think they're gonna die anyway.
Quote from: JrDude ♫ on April 26, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Whether this is true or not, it will be a catastrophic day due to the fact that a lot of people do believe it and they will panic and some will probably do many things 'cause they think they're gonna die anyway.
that's really what I'm afraid of with these so called "prophecies"
Isnt the asian part of the world is in the 3 thousands? So making 2012 bogus?
Quote from: Sinbad on April 26, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
A black hole somehow getting in line with the Earth and Sun will have no effect if we aren't in the event horizon...
Physics anyone?
Fair enough. Assuming I understood what you said correctly.
Quote from: phatyo on April 26, 2009, 06:39:24 PM
Isnt the asian part of the world is in the 3 thousands? So making 2012 bogus?
wut? no
Quote from: {CeF}Lichig0 on April 27, 2009, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: Sinbad on April 26, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
A black hole somehow getting in line with the Earth and Sun will have no effect if we aren't in the event horizon...
Physics anyone?
Fair enough. Assuming I understood what you said correctly.Quote from: phatyo on April 26, 2009, 06:39:24 PM
Isnt the asian part of the world is in the 3 thousands? So making 2012 bogus?
wut? no
Actually...
Phatyo is sort of valid for once. 0-0
There is reason to believe we are actually 7 or 8 years off the actual date we are in today.
Quote from: Sinbad on April 27, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
Quote from: {CeF}Lichig0 on April 27, 2009, 02:12:56 PM
Quote from: Sinbad on April 26, 2009, 07:17:30 AM
Nothing escapes a black hole.
Ever.
A black hole somehow getting in line with the Earth and Sun will have no effect if we aren't in the event horizon...
Physics anyone?
Fair enough. Assuming I understood what you said correctly.Quote from: phatyo on April 26, 2009, 06:39:24 PM
Isnt the asian part of the world is in the 3 thousands? So making 2012 bogus?
wut? no
Actually...
Phatyo is sort of valid for once. 0-0
There is reason to believe we are actually 7 or 8 years off the actual date we are in today.
Well, 3797 is, to us, 2012. And I think that's what Phatyo is getting confused with...
Quote from: Phaze on April 24, 2009, 07:49:49 PM
It's interesting to think about, sure. But I try not to think about an apocalypse or whatever, really, why would anyone? Whatever happens happens, you wouldn't be able to stop it.
I just "go with the flow" :P
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Anyways, on the idea of the whole Apocalypse fiasco. I can just say we really can't be sure of when and if the world is going to end from a scientific point of view, and that many of these theories are speculations, legends, and ideals of an ancient people.
These can't be for-sure ways of telling whether or not the world will end or not. I do agree with it being fascinating however.