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Taken from Kotaku:
QuoteSega continues to milk their blue hedgehog for all he's worth, with the announcement of Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, which takes the world's fastest video game character and puts him in a car.
Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing, due out in 2010 for the Wii, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and Nintendo DS, is just what it sounds like. Much like Sega Superstars Tennis, the game gathers characters from Sega's most popular franchises and pits them against each other in a race to the finish line. Unlike other kart racing titles, Sonic and friends aren't limited to cars, with characters flying planes or racing motorcycles, which seems completely unfair to me, but there you go.
Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing is no ordinary racing game. Its huge variety of characters and vehicles, plus the ability to play both online and off set it apart from other games of this type" commented Gary Knight European Marketing Director, SEGA Europe Ltd. "The team have pushed the boundaries on what you would normally expect and created a different and unique party racing title whereby you really can't take anything for granted!
I'm actually willing to give this title the benefit of the doubt. I actually enjoyed Sega Superstars Tennis, and while some may rail about mishandling the Sonic property, this is exactly the sort of thing Nintendo has been doing with Mario for years. Our own personal feelings about the Sonic character aside, Sega is still a business, and if it sells, then by all means sell it.
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Well, I have to say, the screens and the video do look nice. D:
Maybe this could be a decent game by Sega. With the three vehicle options, it kind of reminds me of Diddy Kong Racing.
I'll admit, Sonic's car looks awesome. D=
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1. A blatant Mario Kart / Diddy Kong Racing clone
2. Quit milking Sonic, there is a reason people are tired of seeing him.
3. Sega, you ALREADY TRIED THIS. Remember Sonic Drift? IT WAS HORRIBLE
4. Sonic in a car under ANY circumstance is stupid. Hell, at least Sonic R was a good idea on paper...
5. Shadow is totally getting the motorcycle
6. SEGA, focus on making a GOOD 3D Sonic game please!
Quote from: Nayrman on May 28, 2009, 02:28:07 PM
4. Sonic in a car under ANY circumstance is stupid. Hell, at least Sonic R was a good idea on paper...
You know, it would pretty unfair if Sonic ran on foot. At least with him in a car there's a chance Robotnik might win.
but it's the antithesis of what Sonic was made for X_X;;
It's like the spring power up in Mario Galaxy. Mario ALREADY jumps, making a power up to enhance the jumping is just stupid X_X;;
Yeah but, it's a kart racing game. Everyone has to be in a Kart.
Quote from: Qsmashbro on May 28, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
Yeah but, it's a kart racing game. Everyone has to be in a Kart.
...or a plane, motorcycle, bike, hovercraft, Fish, Duck, or UFO.
Anyway, I have incredibly high doubts about this game. Especially because it reminds me of Diddy Kong Racing, one of my least favorite games of all time.
Quote from: Qsmashbro on May 28, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
Yeah but, it's a kart racing game. Everyone has to be in a Kart.
*you seem to have missed the point entirely... *
Sonic can run faster than any car... leaving the idea inherently stupid...
Quote from: Nayrman on May 28, 2009, 04:30:46 PM
*you seem to have missed the point entirely... *
Sonic can run faster than any car... leaving the idea inherently stupid...
He's too fast. Way too fast for everyone else, which would make a racing game with Sega characters pointless, since if the players want to win all they have to do is pick Sonic. If they some how slowed him down in a way that it would make since to sonic fans, the game could be fair play. So, they put him in a car.
It makes more since than Sonic foot racing Mario, at least...
Quote from: Qsmashbro on May 28, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
He's too fast. Way too fast for everyone else, which would make a racing game with Sega characters pointless, since if the players want to win all they have to do is pick Sonic. If they some how slowed him down in a way that it would make since to sonic fans, the game could be fair play. So, they put him in a car.
Looks at Sonic R.
If they did all Sonic characters, foot running is possible. Besides, who said Sonic couldn't run? He'd have the best top speed but the lowest weight since he isn't in a car.
Also, AiAi/Monkey Ball characters can run in their hamster balls and go fast in that, and NiGHTS could fly letting it go faster.
There is no reason to do stupid things when a perfectly acceptable alternatives exist.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 28, 2009, 04:46:23 PM
Looks at Sonic R.
If they did all Sonic characters, foot running is possible. Besides, who said Sonic couldn't run? He'd have the best top speed but the lowest weight since he isn't in a car.
Also, AiAi/Monkey Ball characters can run in their hamster balls and go fast in that, and NiGHTS could fly letting it go faster.
There is no reason to do stupid things when a perfectly acceptable alternatives exist.
Looking at it that way I, they could have had some characters on foot and some in a kart or something(wait, does a hamster ball count as a vehicle?)...I think Sega just wanted to put everyone in vehicles.
Quote from: Qsmashbro on May 28, 2009, 04:59:04 PM
Looking at it that way I, they could have had some characters on foot and some in a kart or something(wait, does a hamster ball count as a vehicle?)...I think Sega just wanted to put everyone in vehicles.
Like I said, foot characters could have more top speed, but far less weight. Making them easy to knock around. I actually think it's a good dynamic, because characters like Sonic and Knuckles in vehicles is just plain silly...
Again, Sonic R may have played poorly, but in all honesty it had the best idea going forward.
Sonic R was what the reviewers would call a "mixed bag". The concept, gameplay, and graphics were there, (the Saturn wasn't made to be a 3D machine) but the execution of it all was so poor.
Hey, at least they are actually making the vehicles based on the characters, Sonic Drift 2 was just plain karts.
This is Sonic and other Sega characters in a racing game.
Not every Sega character has super fast speed.
They all need a vehicle. Sonic (or other Sonic characters) can't be the only ones without vehicles. It wouldn't look right at all. :\
Quote from: Tupin on May 28, 2009, 05:16:30 PM
Sonic R was what the reviewers would call a "mixed bag". The concept, gameplay, and graphics were there, (the Saturn wasn't made to be a 3D machine) but the execution of it all was so poor.
Hey, at least they are actually making the vehicles based on the characters, Sonic Drift 2 was just plain karts.
like a lot of things SEGA does, the idea was great, the execution was poor. The drift games were terrible, and dude, it looks like a blatant Mario Kart rip-off. X_X;;
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on May 28, 2009, 05:18:28 PM
This is Sonic and other Sega characters in a racing game.
Not every Sega character has super fast speed.
They all need a vehicle. Sonic (or other Sonic characters) can't be the only ones without vehicles. It wouldn't look right at all. :\
Why do we need the other SEGA characters again? Besides Monkey Ball and NiGHTS, does anyone else really even qualify at this point? @_@;;
Besides, it's like Mario and Sonic at the Olympics. The idea just does not work... look at how annoyingly dumb that game was. But then again, SEGA doesn't care about good games anymore as long as it makes money.
Well, they have Alex Kidd, but I think they used him in Sega All-Stars Tennis.
Quote from: Tupin on May 28, 2009, 05:24:47 PM
Well, they have Alex Kidd, but I think they used him in Sega All-Stars Tennis.
They haven't used him in anything since the Genesis days.
Again, a retry of Sonic R with modern technology (ya know, actually make them FAST) could potentially be good. Frankly, we know this isn't going to be good. The only non-Mario Kart to be any good was the first Crash Bandicoot attempt on the PS1.
SEGA, quit whoring out Sonic. At least until you can consistently make GOOD Sonic games X_X;;
holy poop, your complaining more than usual.
Reminds me of diddy Kong racing.
could have SOME potential....
But I doubt i'll buy, or even rent it.
I don't know why, but I actually have some good feeling about this game. Granted, it's not exactly the Adventure 3 game that all 92 SEGA fans have been waiting for, but I actually have higher hopes for it than I did for the story book and Riders series.
As for Nayrman's complaints (not that anyone on the planet could change his opinion on a Sonic game):
1. Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing are GOOD games, while modern Sonic games are BAD games. Maybe it's actually a good idea for SEGA to try ideas that have already been proven to work, rather than trying to make another stretchy werehog/book-based/gun+hedgehog/flat-out-terrible-06-style game.
2. The other characters WOULD NOT OUT-SPEED SONIC without him being automatically slowed somehow, and so, believe it or not, giving cars to all of them including Sonic actually makes for a more realistic race... unless you prefer the mystical Necessity-To-The-Plot power that has caused him to slow down when racing plumbers.
Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 28, 2009, 07:48:44 PM
I don't know why, but I actually have some good feeling about this game. Granted, it's not exactly the Adventure 3 game that all 92 SEGA fans have been waiting for, but I actually have higher hopes for it than I did for the story book and Riders series.
As for Nayrman's complaints (not that anyone on the planet could change his opinion on a Sonic game):
1. Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing are GOOD games, while modern Sonic games are BAD games. Maybe it's actually a good idea for SEGA to try ideas that have already been proven to work, rather than trying to make another stretchy werehog/book-based/gun+hedgehog/flat-out-terrible-06-style game.
2. The other characters WOULD NOT OUT-SPEED SONIC without him being automatically slowed somehow, and so, believe it or not, giving cars to all of them including Sonic actually makes for a more realistic race... unless you prefer the mystical Necessity-To-The-Plot power that has caused him to slow down when racing plumbers.
1. SEGA has been almost blatantly copying Nintendo since they went third party. Hasn't worked out so far. By the way, they DID try a car racer for Sonic... twice. Both failed miserably and were terrible games. If it didn't work then when Sonic was GOOD, it's not going to work now. Especially when even Nintendo's take on the cart racer has been overly done.
2. They did so in the olympic games like you said. I'd rather have him nerfed than doing something completely idiotic... like driving a car. And yes, a more realistic race between a hedgehog, mad scientist, maraca shaking monkey, etc. I know it's supposed to be "unrealistic", but being stupid has no excuse.
But it wouldn't look and feel right if Sonic was just running around while everyone else was driving. You can't have that.
Also keep in mind Sonic R is a little over 10 years old.
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on May 29, 2009, 03:05:06 AM
But it wouldn't look and feel right if Sonic was just running around while everyone else was driving. You can't have that.
Also keep in mind Sonic R is a little over 10 years old.
It also doesn't look right having Mario beat Sonic in anything other than a jumping competition. But tell that to anyone who worked on the Olympic games crap...
Quote from: Nayrman on May 29, 2009, 04:59:30 AM
It also doesn't look right having Mario beat Sonic in anything other than a jumping competition. But tell that to anyone who worked on the Olympic games crap...
But you can't have Sonic smoking everyone in every competition involving running, either.
Quote from: DOODLEboy99 on May 29, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
But you can't have Sonic smoking everyone in every competition involving running, either.
which is why they should've made a platformer instead of a stupid ass minigame sports package.
As a note, I think the fact it appears to be a Diddy Kong Racing rip makes it a seemingly good title. D:
Looks like a decent rip off of DKR, but I don't care. I'll probably rent this. I've been wanting a new racing game.
This game looks decent I say, maybe not Mario Kart good, but good none the less. And yes Sonic in a car sounds bizarre, but did you read the thread? "With the three vehicle options," and if you look at the pics, there are obviously more than 3 total. So with that said, who knows? One of Sonic's "vehicles" could be some kind of shoes that allows him to run. Along with that, maybe the Monkey Ballers have a Ball vehicle.
Quote from: Nayrman on May 28, 2009, 05:39:50 PM
They haven't used him in anything since the Genesis days.
Again, a retry of Sonic R with modern technology (ya know, actually make them FAST) could potentially be good. Frankly, we know this isn't going to be good. The only non-Mario Kart to be any good was the first Crash Bandicoot attempt on the PS1.
SEGA, quit whoring out Sonic. At least until you can consistently make GOOD Sonic games X_X;;
Also...
I see Alex right there...
Quote from: Macbeth on May 30, 2009, 04:33:51 PM
Also...
I see Alex right there...
you know what I mean by "in stuff". It's essentially like having Pit in Brawl. Sure it's nice they're recognizing him but I fail to see the point unless they actually do something with him X_X;;
Yeah, except he's different from Pit because most of his games suck.
First gameplay footage.
Wow, this looks worse than I thought... AND it has Big the Cat on a motorcycle. *prepares sneaking gear courtesy of Solid Snake and neck slicing knife*
Well, it at least LOOKS nice. Can't fault Sega on that, they always manage to make a great looking game.
The gameplay, however... ::)
Quote from: Tupin on June 03, 2009, 09:13:23 PM
Well, it at least LOOKS nice. Can't fault Sega on that, they always manage to make a great looking game.
The gameplay, however... ::)
who care about graphics when the gameplay is horrible. (looks at Sonic 06)
You know what's even worse? Play by play announcers. This game has them.
Quote from: Tupin on June 04, 2009, 11:38:23 AM
You know what's even worse? Play by play announcers. This game has them.
the only time that was ever good was Madworld, and that was because Bender from Futurama was doing it X_X;;
Quote from: Nayrman on June 04, 2009, 11:42:20 AM
the only time that was ever good was Madworld, and that was because Bender from Futurama was doing it X_X;;
Ever play Mario Kart Arcade GP? The announcer there is so annoying.
Quote from: Tupin on June 04, 2009, 11:57:35 AM
Ever play Mario Kart Arcade GP? The announcer there is so annoying.
besides a shotty Dave and Busters (that has a total of 2 good games), I got nothing in terms of arcades.
So no. But like I said, ALL announcers are annoying besides Madworld only because it's freaking Bender XD
...I might actually buy this just to see if it's worse than Diddy Kong Racing.
It does look nice, but the gameplay seems boring.
Definitely no Diddy Kong Racing.
The game looks like crap besides Sonic's car. It kinda looks like a blue Porshe Cayman with spikes as a spoiler. Nice.