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Generally Speaking => Power On => Topic started by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 02:12:28 PM

Poll
Question: Read Post
Option 1: Do away with.
Option 2: Keep.
Title: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 02:12:28 PM
The subject matter is doing a de-restoration on NSider post counts. This would accompany the rank overhaul and theme redux that will likely be going down tonight. If we deflate the posts, we'd also then change the post based ranks a bit - at the very least we'd lower the posts down in proportion to avg. posts lost.

For me, the decision comes down to reality. We aren't NSider, and accepting their (and NS2's) post counts seems dumb. Why don't we have a community based around itself? But, I leave the decision in your hands...then the staffs.

The original note from Totla:

QuoteAlso, a rank related suggestion: Get rid of the post count restorations from nsider, and fix the rank post count requirements accordingly.

A note from Hostile:

Quote from: Friendly Hostile
No we don't.  SMF 2 added a lovely mod  (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1136)to recalculate post counts if they were altered at all.  All we have to do is click a button and viola, everyone is reset to their actual post count here.

Additionally, no post on this site will be lost or altered in any way.

Totla: Re-vote because not caring shouldn't be an option, and because it was evenly divided three ways, and because of new information.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: KingBoo on August 16, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Just do away with it. Post count doesn't matter at all. Especially not when you're getting it restored from other sites. The only reason it even slightly mattered on NS was due to the fact you didn't get all the forum features at a low level. Just get rid of it :/

Also, check your pm's. Wtf happened?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Erm, this is a stupid idea. I can see what you mean, but all the post count is is an arbitrary number, so no matter what it is, it's silly.

Plus, this doesn't affect me :3
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 02:22:22 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Erm, this is a stupid idea. I can see what you mean, but all the post count is is an arbitrary number, so no matter what it is, it's silly.

Plus, this doesn't affect me :3
Your rank isn't permanent.


Also, original content to idea:

Quote from: TotlaAlso, a rank related suggestion: Get rid of the post count restorations from nsider, and fix the rank post count requirements accordingly.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: HTA! on August 16, 2009, 03:15:14 PM
If it gets rid of Malo, I don't care.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Custom on August 16, 2009, 03:22:59 PM
I want new ranks, but I want to keep my post count. IT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT FROM OLDSIDER ;-;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 16, 2009, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
Erm, this is a stupid idea. I can see what you mean, but all the post count is is an arbitrary number, so no matter what it is, it's silly.

Plus, this doesn't affect me :3
The problem I really only see is that it intercourse s with stats.  Of our top 10 posters, 3 are actually active.   Most of them haven't been here in months, half of them in over a year.


Also, I don't see why you'd choose here to cling to your memories of Oldsider.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Nayrman on August 16, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
I mostly don't care, however I do like having the highest rank amongst us peeps. XD
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Seventh on August 16, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
I'm mostly indifferent, but I say do away with it.

It's an arbitrary matter.

In place of it, make it so we can choose from an assortment of pre-made colors.  Seriously.
Being able to make my name red would be a thing I'd LOOOOOOVE
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
You won't ever have the ability to make your name red, pending Vaati's (and my own) rule stays true. Admins should always be easily id'd, and as such, user ranks shouldn't be red (unless a very different shade, which is possible).
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 16, 2009, 02:22:22 PMYour rank isn't permanent.
I meant that none of my posts are getting deleted.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: on August 16, 2009, 05:20:39 PM
Indifference yo
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Silverhawk79 on August 16, 2009, 05:22:08 PM
I'm indifferent. I'm keeping my postcount anyways, because it means nothing, and I like it. D:
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 05:22:39 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
I meant that none of my posts are getting deleted.
You should win a medal for making that many posts here.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 05:24:13 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 16, 2009, 05:22:39 PM
You should win a medal for making that many posts here.
Don't you have more?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 05:27:29 PM
Yeah. But both of your accounts have a ton.

I think I'm about 12K.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kilroy on August 16, 2009, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 16, 2009, 05:27:29 PM
Yeah. But both of your accounts have a ton.

I think I'm about 12K.
3k of "Cannotcompute0"'s posts were on Oldsider, so that leaves him with 3k, plus the 6k on this account, makes 9k total.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Custom on August 16, 2009, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: Silverhawk79 on August 16, 2009, 05:22:08 PM
I'm indifferent. I'm keeping my postcount anyways, because it means nothing, and I like it. D:

I want mine too then. :(
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: jnfs2014 on August 16, 2009, 05:34:21 PM
I actually only had 1700 posts on Nsider, so I'd still have 5000+. I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on August 16, 2009, 06:57:17 PM
I don't really care, everyone knows I had the highest postcount on NSider when it closed on here (and LF does not count since he isn't here).
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Doodle on August 16, 2009, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 16, 2009, 05:33:46 PM
I want mine too then. :(
Me, too. ;___;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kayo on August 16, 2009, 08:36:52 PM
I'd say keep them as they are now, just dont revive any more for new oldsider members (unless you already stopped doing that)
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Commander Awesome on August 16, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
I like my 48,285 posts. I recently added 20k+ to that on NSider 2 because I'm awesome.

But honestly, retroactively removing it isn't the best idea, since you'd have to go in and edit every member who had it edited to the proper number.

And in the end, who gives a poop.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on August 16, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: Yukiko on August 16, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
I like my 48,285 posts. I recently added 20k+ to that on NSider 2 because I'm awesome.

But honestly, retroactively removing it isn't the best idea, since you'd have to go in and edit every member who had it edited to the proper number.

And in the end, who gives a poop.
Stop popping in and out randomly.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Commander Awesome on August 16, 2009, 08:49:30 PM
Quote from: バシャーモ-せんぱい on August 16, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
Stop popping in and out randomly.
Popping in and out is my job, dangit.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Dog Food on August 16, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
I'm indifferent as this really doesn't affect me. Do what you need to do.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Tupin on August 16, 2009, 09:22:10 PM
As long as the threads we've made aren't affected, I don't care.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: NiMa74 on August 16, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on August 16, 2009, 08:49:30 PM
Popping in and out is my job, dangit.

That's what he said.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Riddler on August 16, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
I voted Nooo Keep, but I didn't know we use NS2 postcounts. That's a bit extreme.

This forum is "Nsider Forums/Friend Code Database". Using Nsiders postcounts is fine. We may be our own community but we spawn from there and FCD.

I don't agree with using NS2 postcounts though. Any posts from a rival forum shouldn't count.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Custom on August 16, 2009, 09:30:15 PM
I say we settle this with a war.

North vs South.

/me grabs his guns
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Light on August 16, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
Quote from: JNFS2014 on August 16, 2009, 05:34:21 PM
I actually only had 1700 posts on Nsider, so I'd still have 5000+. I'd say go for it.
6,450
-1700
4,750

lrn to math

Also, I elect to keep postcounts the way they are. We don't really need to do it, so why waste effort on it when we could be using that time to think of other, more important things to do on this site?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: jnfs2014 on August 16, 2009, 09:43:57 PM
My phone doesn't see my postcount, so I just assumed. :P

I have around 1000 posts on NS2, mostly Darkrai's Plot.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Pascal on August 16, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
keep it like it is :)
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Commander Awesome on August 16, 2009, 10:17:11 PM
Quote from: Big Brother on August 16, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
6,450
-1700
4,750

lrn to math

Also, I elect to keep postcounts the way they are. We don't really need to do it, so why waste effort on it when we could be using that time to think of other, more important things to do on this site?
ding ding ding

Any possible benefit will be outweighed by the effort involved.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 16, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
Quote from: Commander Awesome on August 16, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
But honestly, retroactively removing it isn't the best idea, since you'd have to go in and edit every member who had it edited to the proper number.
No we don't.  SMF 2 added a lovely mod  (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1136)to recalculate post counts if they were altered at all.  All we have to do is click a button and viola, everyone is reset to their actual post count here.

Additionally, no post on this site will be lost or altered in any way.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Custom on August 16, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 16, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
No we don't.  SMF 2 added a lovely mod  (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1136)to recalculate post counts if they were altered at all.  All we have to do is click a button and viola, everyone is reset to their actual post count here.

Additionally, no post on this site will be lost or altered in any way.

No! Hostile you are supposed to make it seem like a 7 hour ordeal of clicking things over and over.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 16, 2009, 11:31:12 PM
Not to mention, the easy and effortless recount forum statistics. So really it's one click to download. Two to install. One to remove. One to recount. 5 clicks. Not bad or painful - and far more accurate to what we really are.

However, it should be noted that with that many users opposed to something as such, I would be hesitant to do so.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 16, 2009, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 16, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
No! Hostile you are supposed to make it seem like a 7 hour ordeal of clicking things over and over.
I have never been fond of the post count restorations, as I don't like things that falsify stats or make people look more active than they are.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Linkman on August 17, 2009, 12:25:38 AM
I chose indifferent.  I made somewhere around 2,200 posts on OldSider, and I pretty much doubled that here.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Matt on August 17, 2009, 01:07:58 AM
I voted to get rid of... just in spite of the fact some people are against it because they actually care about the posts they made at Nsider. I myself could careless about my post count for the most part.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Totla on August 17, 2009, 04:25:56 AM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 16, 2009, 09:30:15 PM
I say we settle this with a war.

North vs South.

/me grabs his guns
/me gets ready to abuse his powers
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Lohn Jocke on August 17, 2009, 06:41:51 AM
I don't really care, since I'm not one to give a poop about my rank. (unless it's Mod/admin of course =3)
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Totla on August 17, 2009, 06:50:10 AM
Quote from: ThisIsU on August 17, 2009, 06:41:51 AM
(unless it's Mod/admin of course =3)
ahahahahahaha
that was a good one
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Seventh on August 17, 2009, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 16, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
You won't ever have the ability to make your name red, pending Vaati's (and my own) rule stays true. Admins should always be easily id'd, and as such, user ranks shouldn't be red (unless a very different shade, which is possible).
Exactly what I meant when I said that.  I probably should have specified a little more that if there's color selection, the colors should be distinct from MOD/ADMIN colors...  my bad.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Mutilator7 on August 17, 2009, 11:11:50 AM
New ranks would be nice if there were more. All my posts are from here so i don't care about the recovery or whatever
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: whatwewishfor on August 17, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 16, 2009, 03:22:59 PM
I want new ranks, but I want to keep my post count. IT'S ALL I HAVE LEFT FROM OLDSIDER ;-;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kierou on August 17, 2009, 01:04:55 PM
Keh. Just let it go. It's a post count. Those who care are most likely compensating for something. :P
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Tsumaru on August 17, 2009, 03:29:29 PM
I don't really care about ranks on here as much as I did on NSider.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Custom on August 17, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
All the low postcount users are voting to get rid of them. :(
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Kilroy on August 17, 2009, 04:34:25 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 17, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
All the low postcount users are voting to get rid of them. :(
I voted to keep <3
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 05:03:06 PM
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them being reset.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Riddler on August 17, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 05:03:06 PM
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them being reset.
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them staying the same.

You can't count the "doesn't care" votes for either side.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: bluaki on August 17, 2009, 08:35:29 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 05:03:06 PM
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them being reset.
A bit more than 2/3, considering those two are the largest groups
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 17, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them staying the same.
A bit less than 2/3, considering that excludes the group with the highest number of votes

Having checked this poll numerous times, "Do away with" seems to have maintained a status about 2~4 votes higher than "NOOO KEEP" with indifferent being in between them.
Also, the poll doesn't allow changing votes and, judging by the posts in this thread, some people probably chose to keep thinking it would be a lot of trouble before hostile explained that it's an easy to use function.

Anyways, I vote to do away with. This is good in my opinion because:
It makes the various ranks easier to obtain for people who weren't on Nsider and other new members
It fixes our screwed up statistics
Unlike NS2, we aren't trying to extend and replicate the experience of Nsider, but rather be a mostly separate forum.

Also I disagree with Mack's idea of asking all of you so many things D=
I think many choices are better left to just the staff.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Macawmoses on August 17, 2009, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Bluaki on August 17, 2009, 08:35:29 PM
Also I disagree with Mack's idea of asking all of you so many things D=
I think many choices are better left to just the staff.
While I agree we are staff for a reason, this is a very important part of how the forum operates. Just deciding for the users - based on a closed group whose ranks don't change as they post hardly seems fair.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Riddler on August 17, 2009, 09:02:18 PM
As extreme as this may sound, I say if we really want to "be a separate forum" from Nsider, we have to change the name (or at least the first half of the name) of the site.

Or, accept that we started as an Nsider Forum, and keep the post count of those who were members.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: on August 17, 2009, 09:06:14 PM
Quote from: Bluaki on August 17, 2009, 08:35:29 PM
Also I disagree with Mack's idea of asking all of you so many things D=
I think many choices are better left to just the staff.
Well even if it's just for show it's probably a good idea to ask peoples opinions about this sort of thing anyway because there's always a possibility of a huge backlash if major things change/happen without any prior warning at all. (I'm pretty sure that it's happened here before) And this way you can at least soften the blow or make users think they were useful.

And I'm not implying that Mack or any other staff is doing this "just for show," though I personally wouldn't care at all if they were.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 09:16:35 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 17, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
2/3 of the vote doesn't care or supports them staying the same.

You can't count the "doesn't care" votes for either side.
You forget, indifference always means yes in these polls.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: The Riddler on August 17, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 09:16:35 PM
You forget, indifference always means yes in these polls.
So all the people who didn't vote... voted for Obama?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Totla on August 17, 2009, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 17, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
So all the people who didn't vote... voted for Obama?
If they didn't vote, they have no right to complain about the outcome.
Unless they went out and voted for McCain, they wouldn't have had an impact on the outcome, meaning they essentially approved Obama.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 17, 2009, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 17, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
So all the people who didn't vote... voted for Obama?
I was referring to general forum polls (/ means y) but sure.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Water ☮ on August 17, 2009, 09:49:54 PM
I don't know :(

I'm indifferent about the post counts. But I also see that some people really care about them so If they want to keep them they should.

As far as the ranks go I'm also indifferent but I don't want us to drift to far away from being a video game based forum concentrating mostly on nintendo.

The fact that this forum was very much nintendo-based was why it attracted me. It wasn't full of ignorant retards who would say poop like Nintendo sucks, its too kiddy, etc.

I still don't know what to vote for =[
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Custom on August 17, 2009, 10:03:59 PM
I voted to keep kthxbai

also i love all the users that voted keep i'm goign to mail you guys some knid of money or food item like yeah
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: The Riddler on August 17, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
I revoted keep. kthxbai

Though there's no point to the vote.

They're gonna do it regardless.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Totla on August 18, 2009, 12:26:50 AM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 17, 2009, 10:06:43 PM
I revoted keep. kthxbai

Though there's no point to the vote.

They're gonna do it regardless.
uh
it was just something i kinda suggested off-hand
if you guys really really hate it we're not going to do it
it's not a terribly big deal, just something we'd like to do
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 18, 2009, 12:28:47 AM
Quote from: Tortilla on August 18, 2009, 12:26:50 AM
uh
it was just something i kinda suggested off-hand
if you guys really really hate it we're not going to do it
it's not a terribly big deal, just something we'd like to do
And to elaborate why it was posted - it's to gather input before the rank election which is debuting in the coming hours. I'd like to have all the ranks and permissions in order before summer is out - which is why things are getting done.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS)
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2009, 04:00:12 AM
Quote from: George Carlin on August 17, 2009, 01:07:58 AM
I voted to get rid of... just in spite of the fact some people are against it because they actually care about the posts they made at Nsider. I myself could careless about my post count for the most part.

This once again.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kayo on August 18, 2009, 07:29:43 AM
We should keep them. This started as an NSider forum, which was good, but we slowly moved away from that. I still say we should keep post counts as-is, because otherwise we have nothing left of oldsider. D=
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Matt on August 18, 2009, 07:37:02 AM
Quote from: KAOS on August 18, 2009, 07:29:43 AM
We should keep them. This started as an NSider forum, which was good, but we slowly moved away from that. I still say we should keep post counts as-is, because otherwise we have nothing left of oldsider. D=

Even though the point of the matter is the fact we aren't Oldsider and therefore why should we have posts from it.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: L10 on August 18, 2009, 11:09:22 AM
Do away with, it matters not to me.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Dog Food on August 18, 2009, 12:13:08 PM
I re-voted to get rid of post count restoration. Sure, let's break away from our Oldsider roots. We already have new ranks. Why be reminded of a community that everyone says sucked, and left us without warning? Also, the "replacement" Oldsider has done nothing good to this place.

I say, thanks to Oldsider for sprouting this forum, but it's time for us to leave the nest. We need to spread out our own wings and fly, which means goodbye to the stable life that we once all knew. So, goodbye old post ranks, goodbye old post counts, and hello to a brand new world. Our world, as a community, that we can hopefully make better than Oldsider, and at least better than NS2 in our morals.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Doodle on August 18, 2009, 12:30:08 PM
Just because we've expanded and drifted away from NSider doesn't mean we need to cut it off completely.
NSider is the one thing most of us have in common.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kayo on August 18, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
Quote from: Doodle on August 18, 2009, 12:30:08 PM
Just because we've expanded and drifted away from NSider doesn't mean we need to cut it off completely.
NSider is the one thing most of us have in common.
exactly. and since I started here right where I left off at Oldsider, i feel that my posts should count from beginning to end. (beginning, of course, being when i joind oldsider in 2003)
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 18, 2009, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: KAOS on August 18, 2009, 12:50:47 PM
exactly. and since I started here right where I left off at Oldsider, i feel that my posts should count from beginning to end. (beginning, of course, being when i joind oldsider in 2003)
You mean those posts that are no longer in existence except in some poor attempt to recover them from Google's cache?  That number is meaningless here, and none of your Oldsider posts still exist.  I don't see how you can cling to something you can't even look at online anymore.

Those posts don't count because they aren't there to be counted.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Doodle on August 18, 2009, 02:31:42 PM
But the posts were counted in the beginning of NSF, there's nothing wrong with keeping them.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on August 18, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
Why are you people so against keeping it? It's an arbitrary number, it means nothing, zip, nada.

Of course, the same argument could go against the people wanting to keep it, but still, there's no real reason either way. Hell, we could make everyone have 0 posts and say nothing of it.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 18, 2009, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 18, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
Why are you people so against keeping it? It's an arbitrary number, it means nothing, zip, nada.

Of course, the same argument could go against the people wanting to keep it, but still, there's no real reason either way. Hell, we could make everyone have 0 posts and say nothing of it.
It gives a false sense of activity.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: bluaki on August 18, 2009, 04:45:13 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 18, 2009, 02:45:57 PM
Hell, we could make everyone have 0 posts and say nothing of it.
Doing that would eliminate ranks and make nearly all users' names the same color D:

And a reason for this is similar; it will more accurately distribute the ranking post requirements.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: The Riddler on August 18, 2009, 08:07:32 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 18, 2009, 03:05:58 PM
It gives a false sense of activity.
Further reason to keep them.
New members will think we're active and like that.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 18, 2009, 08:15:58 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 18, 2009, 08:07:32 PM
Further reason to keep them.
New members will think we're active and like that.
We need to lie to users now?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: The Riddler on August 18, 2009, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 18, 2009, 08:15:58 PM
We need to lie to users now?
It's not lying if you tell them the reasoning. We started as Nsider, and we're keeping our records from that.

Or, we could make it look like we have no activity and just let it die out quicker.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 18, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 18, 2009, 08:21:25 PM
It's not lying if you tell them the reasoning. We started as Nsider, and we're keeping our records from that.

Or, we could make it look like we have no activity and just let it die out quicker.
Or we could change our name!
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: The Riddler on August 18, 2009, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 18, 2009, 08:22:15 PM
Or we could change our name!
We can do that. Whether or not you wanna keep a thread that has a legitimate point, it's true.

Even if we erase the post counts to "break our ties to Oldsider", we still have the name which keeps us attached. It's basically hypocritical to keep the name of the site as it is.

But I don't know why I'm arguing. It's gonna happen regardless. Just intercourse ing do it now. Get this poop over and done with.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 18, 2009, 10:04:20 PM
Quote from: Riddler_RAGE on August 18, 2009, 08:07:32 PM
Further reason to keep them.
New members will think we're active and like that.
Until they see that it's all a lie and we're full of poop and leave.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: えっちーせんぱい on August 18, 2009, 10:09:15 PM
I still think the plumbers that are still around should get to pick their own rank though; but meh.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 18, 2009, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: バシャーモ-せんぱい on August 18, 2009, 10:09:15 PM
I still think the plumbers that are still around should get to pick their own rank though; but meh.
Top ranks are now available for choice though.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: L10 on August 19, 2009, 08:37:20 PM
New name with the same acronym as NSF or NSFCD?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Silverhawk79 on August 20, 2009, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Ryu on August 19, 2009, 08:37:20 PM
New name with the same acronym as NSF or NSFCD?
Neither name stands for anything anymore, plus we'd have to get a new domain, banners, etc. if we changed our name.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
Question:

Can I get the posts of both my accounts merged if this occurs? I have 4,065 posts on my original account, and a little more than 6000 on this one. If you guys are so worried about our truthful post counts, I'd love to have my post count show how many posts I really have.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 20, 2009, 03:21:56 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
Question:

Can I get the posts of both my accounts merged if this occurs? I have 4,065 posts on my original account, and a little more than 6000 on this one. If you guys are so worried about our truthful post counts, I'd love to have my post count show how many posts I really have.
Actually we could, and this wouldn't take a lot of work.  It'd mostly be up to the other staff though.  I don't have a problem with it, but it's not within my power, so I don't know how much my opinion matters on it.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 20, 2009, 06:47:58 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
Question:

Can I get the posts of both my accounts merged if this occurs? I have 4,065 posts on my original account, and a little more than 6000 on this one. If you guys are so worried about our truthful post counts, I'd love to have my post count show how many posts I really have.
I've no problem with it, on condition your alt is banned (sans use for events) and dropped to 0 posts.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 08:45:02 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 20, 2009, 06:47:58 PM
I've no problem with it, on condition your alt is banned (sans use for events) and dropped to 0 posts.
Perfectly fine by me.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 20, 2009, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 20, 2009, 06:47:58 PM
I've no problem with it, on condition your alt is banned (sans use for events) and dropped to 0 posts.
Actually, what we do is delete the old account and use the function in forum maintenance to add the posts to his current one.  Just have him make a new account for the forum events then.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 20, 2009, 09:28:05 PM
Actually, what we do is delete the old account and use the function in forum maintenance to add the posts to his current one.  Just have him make a new account for the forum events then.
Would that delete all of the old account's posts?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 21, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 20, 2009, 10:11:49 PM
Would that delete all of the old account's posts?
No.  When an account gets deleted, the posts remain (unless during the deletion process we chose the option to delete them) and all that happens is the the user information is gone.  The posts remain, but appear as guest posts.  However SMF allows us to reassign these posts to any user.  Nothing happens to the old accounts posts, and all we have to do is reassign them to your current account.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Eizweir on August 21, 2009, 08:52:34 PM
I voted to do away with, Oldsider sucked.

Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 21, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
No.  When an account gets deleted, the posts remain (unless during the deletion process we chose the option to delete them) and all that happens is the the user information is gone.  The posts remain, but appear as guest posts.  However SMF allows us to reassign these posts to any user.  Nothing happens to the old accounts posts, and all we have to do is reassign them to your current account.
SMF just makes everything easy, dun'it?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: THEBIRD on August 22, 2009, 09:49:33 PM
Do away with. I've always been curious as to what my post count would be just from this site.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on August 22, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
Okay, really, Do away with has won by a landslide. When is this going to happen?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Custom on August 22, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
Quote from: Kilroy on August 22, 2009, 10:59:28 PM
Okay, really, Do away with has won by a landslide. When is this going to happen?

When Light changes his name/avatar to something that doesn't bug the poop out of me
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 22, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 22, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
When Light changes his name/avatar to something that doesn't bug the poop out of me
We could change yours to it and remove your ability to change your avatar.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 23, 2009, 02:11:25 PM
The staff has yet to reach a majority vote.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Custom on August 23, 2009, 03:03:45 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 22, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
We could change yours to it and remove your ability to change your avatar.

I know that.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Doodle on August 23, 2009, 03:26:34 PM
Quote from: Customrobo13 on August 22, 2009, 11:24:24 PM
When Light changes his name/avatar to something that doesn't bug the s*** out of me
Yes, please.
His avatar is creepy and his name stretches the "Started by" column. :|
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: HTA! on August 23, 2009, 06:48:06 PM
Quote from: Rhadamanthus on August 23, 2009, 02:11:25 PM
The staff has yet to reach a majority vote.

lol
You guys suck.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Qsmash on August 23, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
I say...do away....now good day.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 23, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: HTA! on August 23, 2009, 06:48:06 PM
lol
You guys suck.
Blame the staff that don't bother to read the darn board and vote when they should vote.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 23, 2009, 07:54:12 PM
With that said, the staff have been informed they have 24 hours to make a vote. You'll find out our decision soon enough, with the update (if applicable) occurring in the near future.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Doodle on August 24, 2009, 10:52:54 AM
;____;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Totla on August 24, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
THE RESULTS ARE IN
AND IN A HUGE SHOCKER TO PEOPLE IN SUPPORT  OF REMOVING POST COUNTS



































THEY'RE BEING REMOVED.
GOT YOU FAGGOTS.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Custom on August 24, 2009, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: Tortilla on August 24, 2009, 04:40:25 PM
THE RESULTS ARE IN
AND IN A HUGE SHOCKER TO PEOPLE IN SUPPORT  OF REMOVING POST COUNTS

THEY'RE BEING REMOVED.
GOT YOU FAGGOTS.

D:
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: HTA! on August 24, 2009, 04:57:01 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 23, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
Blame the staff that don't bother to read the dang board and vote when they should vote.
Leave them out.
But good, you guys got something done.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 24, 2009, 06:40:57 PM
That we did. We'll take a look at the mod. I'm saying we'll give you until ~Sunday to relish your post count.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kayo on August 25, 2009, 01:36:43 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

why even make this poll in the first place? this was a NSider before it got slowly raped ;_;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 25, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: KAOS on August 25, 2009, 01:36:43 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

why even make this poll in the first place? this was a NSider before it got slowly raped ;_;
Because it's annoying and give a false sense of activity.  You've made almost 2,600 posts here, which is still a considerable amount, so I don't see why you're worried about losing the current number.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kayo on August 25, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on August 25, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Because it's annoying and give a false sense of activity.  You've made almost 2,600 posts here, which is still a considerable amount, so I don't see why you're worried about losing the current number.
but i wanted to get out of my spam-flavored rank! now i have to repeat it again ;_;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on August 25, 2009, 05:08:32 PM
Quote from: KAOS on August 25, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
but i wanted to get out of my spam-flavored rank! now i have to repeat it again ;_;
We're probably going to redo ranks at some point here (there's supposed to be a rank election happening allegedly) so that may change.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: The Riddler on August 26, 2009, 07:15:07 AM
Here's to 14647 (give or take) posts that won't even be a memory anymore.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kayo on August 26, 2009, 08:54:34 AM
Actually, I guess this is just as well, because some people are keeping their 50,000 posts from Oldsider and if you wanna make a fuss about postcounts, its kind of unfair. now that i think of it, they should just reflect our posting on THIS forum. OK..

I'm ready. do it *closes eyes*
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 28, 2009, 10:16:12 AM
Not only will there be a rank election, and not only will we retool the post counts, there are also user selectable ranks. The last is a fantastic option at getting out of your spam flavored rank.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Lotos on August 28, 2009, 10:18:06 AM
Do we get to pick the colors too? :3
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on August 28, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
For...?

Rank election? Not likely. User selectable has 3 ranks, 2 colors. Two green and a pink.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Lotos on August 28, 2009, 10:32:40 AM
Try not to use as many ugly colors this time (not that all of them are ugly).
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Kilroy on September 04, 2009, 03:19:55 AM
*cough*
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Doodle on September 04, 2009, 11:06:06 AM
If you're going to take our posts, do it already. ;__;
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: on September 04, 2009, 12:34:44 PM
This is going to be one of those things isn't it?
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: HTA! on September 05, 2009, 09:34:47 AM
Staff, get your intercourse ing poop together.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on September 05, 2009, 09:35:51 AM
Quote from: HTA! on September 05, 2009, 09:34:47 AM
Staff, get your intercourse ing poop together.
Read the intercourse ing announcements before you intercourse ing post you intercourse ing intercourse er.


Fuck.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: HTA! on September 05, 2009, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: Friendly Hostile on September 05, 2009, 09:35:51 AM
Read the f***ing announcements before you f***ing post you f***ing f***er.


f***.
Announcement board is for yellow bellies.

=B hyuck
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Macawmoses on September 05, 2009, 09:34:47 PM
And kids with comprehension skills.
Title: Re: Important Poll: Read and Vote (POST COUNTS) RE-READ AND RE-VOTE
Post by: Friendly Hostile on September 05, 2009, 11:08:49 PM
I'm going to just start warning people that complain about things because they haven't read the announcement board.